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Started by Exterminator, September 14, 2016, 10:14:31 AM

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 09:25:10 AM
Ya, if you use fuzzy math. How high hs the cost ol living went up in that same time period?

No fuzzy math involved, idiot, and Forbes says the cost of living increase during the same time period was essentially zero.  Next question?
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The Troll

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 09:25:10 AM
Ya, if you use fuzzy math. How high hs the cost ol living went up in that same time period?


   :me: you are truly a dumbass, what is the price of gas?  My son says that money he is saving in gasoline to drive to Indianapolis is almost unbelievable.   :rant:  Your brain is like what you could find at a fish bait store.  :swim: :fish:  It's call a box of worms, Miss Froggy. :frog:     :haha:  :haha:

Exterminator

Quote from: The Troll on September 14, 2016, 10:16:00 AM
:me: you are truly a dumbass, what is the price of gas?  My son says that money he is saving in gasoline to drive to Indianapolis is almost unbelievable.     Your brain is like what you could find at a fish bait store. 

She knows nothing about anything.  Grocery prices have been falling for 8 straight months as well.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Exterminator on September 14, 2016, 10:19:14 AM
She knows nothing about anything.  Grocery prices have been falling for 8 straight months as well.

Exactly, grocery prices are lower than what they have been and so are gas prices.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on September 14, 2016, 10:19:14 AM
She knows nothing about anything.  Grocery prices have been falling for 8 straight months as well.

  About the only thing that has went up is beef, because of drought conditions in the West and the lower amount of beef coming into the market, you can blame this shortage of the Christian's god. :ghost:  Also the prices of Caviar has went up because the number of rich people has went up.  You have heard the term, "Shit for brains".  Now this is what you can say about :me:  :thumbsup:

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Quote from: Exterminator on September 14, 2016, 10:19:14 AM
She knows nothing about anything.  Grocery prices have been falling for 8 straight months as well.
Have you not noticed that you get less content and more liquid for that lower price.  The quality of what you get is also not as good even in the name brands. I paid over $5 for a lb of good bacon, it was on sale at the time, and the meat had been shot so full of water it wouldn't fry right and had almost no flavor. A can of Hormel corned beef hash is so runny and tasteless it is no longer worth the money, plus it's mostly tiny little potatoes and very little meat. No I don't call things like that cheaper.
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Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
Have you not noticed that you get less content and more liquid for that lower price.  The quality of what you get is also not as good even in the name brands. I paid over $5 for a lb of good bacon, it was on sale at the time, and the meat had been shot so full of water it wouldn't fry right and had almost no flavor. A can of Hormel corned beef hash is so runny and tasteless it is no longer worth the money, plus it's mostly tiny little potatoes and very little meat. No I don't call things like that cheaper.
Meat is always going to be high. Other food isn't. I can put $10.00 in my car and it fills it up. It use to be $25.00. I don't have to fill up every week like I use to have to do.

me

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on September 14, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
Meat is always going to be high. Other food isn't. I can put $10.00 in my car and it fills it up. It use to be $25.00. I don't have to fill up every week like I use to have to do.
You must be using a real small cart if that's the case.
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Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 08:12:43 PM
You must be using a real small cart if that's the case.
Nope, have to buy for husband, myself and two kids and we compared what we were paying a year or so ago and we are spending less than we were.

AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
Have you not noticed that you get less content and more liquid for that lower price.  The quality of what you get is also not as good even in the name brands. I paid over $5 for a lb of good bacon, it was on sale at the time, and the meat had been shot so full of water it wouldn't fry right and had almost no flavor. A can of Hormel corned beef hash is so runny and tasteless it is no longer worth the money, plus it's mostly tiny little potatoes and very little meat. No I don't call things like that cheaper.

What brand of bacon are you buying?  I've never heard of bacon being shot full of water. 
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me

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 14, 2016, 09:20:45 PM
What brand of bacon are you buying?  I've never heard of bacon being shot full of water.
They shot the meat before it's sliced. It's not pure water it's a solution. Haven't you ever noticed when there is an excellent sale on meat that is shrinks more than normal and has more liquid in it? Some places are worse about it than others but they all do it.
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AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 09:29:30 PM
They shot the meat before it's sliced. It's not pure water it's a solution. Haven't you ever noticed when there is an excellent sale on meat that is shrinks more than normal and has more liquid in it? Some places are worse about it than others but they all do it.

You didn't answer me.  What BRAND of bacon?  I've never heard of bacon being shot with a solution of water and whatever else.  I do know that it is cured with water, salt, sugar.......
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 14, 2016, 09:59:34 PM
You didn't answer me.  What BRAND of bacon?  I've never heard of bacon being shot with a solution of water and whatever else.  I do know that it is cured with water, salt, sugar.......
Plumrose which is usually a premimum bacon. It was bad enough I contacted them about it and they admitted they were trying things to keep the costs down for consumers and the lady I talked to said she would let their people who made those decisions know so they could check into what went on with that particular run, they had the product number from the package and date since I thought to include that in my message. When the contacted me back they gave me a phone number to call and I talked to them on the phone about it.
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AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 14, 2016, 10:09:38 PM
Plumrose which is usually a premimum bacon. It was bad enough I contacted them about it and they admitted they were trying things to keep the costs down for consumers and the lady I talked to said she would let their people who made those decisions know so they could check into what went on with that particular run, they had the product number from the package and date since I thought to include that in my message. When the contacted me back they gave me a phone number to call and I talked to them on the phone about it.

Hmmm, looked them up on the web and found the ingredient list:  Bacon, Cured with Water, Salt, Sodium Phosphate, Sugar Brown, Sodium Erythorbate, Sodium Nitrate Nitrite.  Notice it says CURED WITH not an added solution, which they would have to put on the label. 

I think you need to go to bed.  You mixed up PL with Libby in another thread and now this. 
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 14, 2016, 10:39:19 PM
Hmmm, looked them up on the web and found the ingredient list:  Bacon, Cured with Water, Salt, Sodium Phosphate, Sugar Brown, Sodium Erythorbate, Sodium Nitrate Nitrite.  Notice it says CURED WITH not an added solution, which they would have to put on the label. 

I think you need to go to bed.  You mixed up PL with Libby in another thread and now this.
They have been doing it for years. Have you ever gotten hamburger when the store has had a great sale on it and it barely sticks together and tries to fall apart when you cook it and shrinks real bad, or doesn't seem to make as many patties as usual? Did you not read what I posted? The lady admitted to me they were trying different ways to not raise the cost on comsumers and she would let the people know so they could check what was done with that particular run which they could do since I gave them the info from the package they needed. You either don't cook or can afford the premimum expensive meats. You can inturpert this however you wish but they do it to increase the weight and it's been done for years and, like I said earlier, some stores are worse about it than others.

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Got Enhanced Meat? USDA Rule May Make It Easier To Tell

 

July 22, 20112:44 PM ET

April Fulton

USDA meat labeling rule may make it easier to tell if your meat's been treated with a saline solution.
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Ever had that roasted chicken or your favorite pork shoulder recipe turn out much saltier than you expected? You're not alone.

After years of getting consumer complaints about it, yesterday the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced it will soon release a rule that would make it clear — right on the label — that some meat products have been enhanced with sodium solutions.

It would require the product's name to contain an accurate description, amount and ingredients list for the additive. So for example, a new name for an enhanced chicken breast would be "chicken breast – 40% added solution of water and teriyaki sauce," USDA says.

It turns out that a lot of our meat is enhanced. About 30 percent of poultry, 15 percent of beef, and 90 percent of pork are injected with some kind of liquid solution before sale, USDA says, and it's usually something high in sodium.

The solution pumps up the meat's volume and can "replace the flavor and moisture loss that results from raising leaner animals or from potential overcooking," says the American Meat Institute.

Here's why the USDA is doing it, according to the proposal:

    "...[T]he Agency has tentatively concluded that without specific, clear, and conspicuous information about the percentage of added solution incorporated into the product, the labeling of these raw meat or poultry products ... is likely to be misleading to consumers."

In English, that means consumers have a hard time telling whether meat's been treated. To be fair, the current rules already require disclosure, but consumers don't notice it, according to USDA studies.

Poultry and meat injected with a salt-water solution can have more than five times as much sodium as what's naturally in those foods, says the Center for Science in the Public Interest, who petitioned the USDA in 2007 to improve the regulations.

And that can be a problem for people who need to lower their salt intake.

"Better labeling would help consumers concerned about high blood pressure, stroke, or heart disease avoid products that contribute to those diseases," says CSPI Executive Director Michael Jacobson.

But don't expect to see new labels on the meat on your supermarket shelves anytime soon. A USDA spokeswoman tells the Wall Street Journal that the industry needs time to comment and comply. The earliest the rule could kick in would be January 2014, she says.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/07/22/138606851/got-enhanced-meat-usda-rule-may-make-it-easier-to-tell
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