Charleston Church Shooting

[Y]

I think this message from Ben Carson is what message from OUR POTUS should have more like, instead of taking that situation and making it a political issue, like he ALWAYS does.

Ben Carson is an idiot.  The only reason you use him is to fraudulently attempt to convince people you're not really racist - just like other Repukes.

[Y]

YES! Exactly!!!!

I not the POTUS...just an annoying conservative on a liberal forum...    That is my role on here.

Your 'role'?  If you have a 'role', then you're nothing but a phoney - but I think just about everyone here already knew that.   

[me]

Ben Carson is an idiot.  The only reason you use him is to fraudulently attempt to convince people you're not really racist - just like other Repukes.

That must be a racist remark since saying that exact same thing about Obama makes a person a racist. You can't have it both ways.

[Y]

I am seriously trying to make a point on just how a classy president would address such a tragedy.  Trying to build relations and restore hope.  Not being racially motivated and politically motivated.  I think this is important role of a POTUS.

The only reason you take that line is because you're racist and you don't want to face the true facts of America's race history - past and present.

One can't remedy problems unless one knows exactly what they are and faces the reality of them.  You can't/refuse to do either.  It hurts you tender lil' sensibilities to face up to the racism of this country - racism you promote regularly.

[Y]

That must be a racist remark since saying that exact same thing about Obama makes a person a racist. You can't have it both ways.

Oh really?  Let's see you give a cogent explanation of that one.

[Y]

I never understand the "more gun control/Legislation" perspective that always gets dragged out by both sides of the aisle in this tragedies.

Someone needs to explain to me just how adding additional hoops for ALREADY law abiding firearm owners to jump through, does ANYTHING to restrict the ability of those who pay no attention to the laws we have in place already and thumb their noses at such laws anyway, to obtain firearms illegally?...

The real problems are 1) the availability of firearms; 2) the vast sub 100 IQ population.

The availability of firearms simply increases astronomically the probability of their use.  The vast amount of sub 100 IQ populace means that there exists a HUGE segment of the populace who have neither the intelligence nor emotional control to own firearms even though they have the legal right to own them, and that also increases astronomically the probability of their use.

Add that to all the illegal firearms and illegal users and you have a sure fire recipe for high rates of gun violence - and especially instances of violence exactly like this one.  That's because firearms allow someone to cause so much carnage in so short a time span, and because that ability is also very concealable.

I understand where you're coming from, you wouldn't be one to commit such an atrocity as this, and neither would I, but you must admit that we are really in a small minority.

We need a sane gun control policy.

[Y]

...For our POTUS to claim that this type of violence doesn't happen anywhere is bullshit!!  He is just taking a very, very sad situation and trying to gain some political points....and that is a sad situation all by itself...

You can't help but regurgitate lies and half truths to smear the 'nigra' in your 'white' house.

Here's his complete statement:

http://time.com/3926839/president-obama-charleston-transcript/

But let's be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency.

<sarcasm>  But you don't have any racist motives, do you Hank.     </sarcasm>

[me]

Oh really?  Let's see you give a cogent explanation of that one.

Well, if one disagrees with the current administration they are called a racist so, therefore, it should only be that if you disagree, or especially call someone who is black an idiot or ignorant, no matter what their politics, you are also being racist. They are still black and the same rules should apply both ways and for everyone.

[me]

You can't help but regurgitate lies and half truths to smear the 'nigra' in your 'white' house.

Here's his complete statement:

http://time.com/3926839/president-obama-charleston-transcript/

But let's be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency.

<sarcasm>  But you don't have any racist motives, do you Hank.     </sarcasm>

Did you have racist motives in mind when you called Carson an idiot?

[Y]

Well, if one disagrees with the current administration they are called a racist so, therefore, it should only be that if you disagree, or especially call someone who is black an idiot or ignorant, no matter what their politics, you are also being racist. They are still black and the same rules should apply both ways and for everyone.

S'funny, I haven't seen everyone who disagrees with Obama called a 'racist', and neither have you.

I have seen folks exhibiting racial prejudice against Obama, his wife, his children, and even other blacks being called out as racists.

When you can't elucidate a cogent argument against Obama or other blacks, the only obvious answer to your attacks is racism.

I've put forth a cogent argument as to why Carson should be considered an 'idiot'.

Therefore, dah-link, apples and oranges.

[Y]

Did you have racist motives in mind when you called Carson an idiot?

Nope!  I'll call anyone who thinks this planet is only a few thousand years old an idiot.   

[me]

S'funny, I haven't seen everyone who disagrees with Obama called a 'racist', and neither have you.

I have seen folks exhibiting racial prejudice against Obama, his wife, his children, and even other blacks being called out as racists.

When you can't elucidate a cogent argument against Obama or other blacks, the only obvious answer to your attacks is racism.

I've put forth a cogent argument as to why Carson should be considered an 'idiot'.

Therefore, dah-link, apples and oranges.

I have been called a racist on here many times for disagreeing with Obama's policies and so have others. I have attacked policies not the person and that does not make me a racist. The old divide and conquer policy is at work strong and has been for, oh, about 6 years now it just started slowly and gained speed. Is martial law going to have to be declared at some point next year or maybe later this year? I sure hope not but it's sure getting nasty out there.

[Bo D]

Is martial law going to have to be declared at some point next year or maybe later this year? I sure hope not but it's sure getting nasty out there.

Oh? And who do you think is causing all the trouble?

I seriously doubt that black folks are behind all those church burnings lately.

[Exterminator]

I have been called a racist on here many times for disagreeing with Obama's policies and so have others.

Because in every single instance, you have failed to elucidate what those policies are and with which details of them you disagree.  When you've tried, it has been proven that you consistently have the details wrong.

[me]

Because in every single instance, you have failed to elucidate what those policies are and with which details of them you disagree.  When you've tried, it has been proven that you consistently have the details wrong.

So you are saying everyone should agree with what's going on with this administration and there is no room for any other opinion since there are others, both black and white, who agree with me. Just because he is black does not mean he shouldn't, or can't, be disagreed with. I do not like liberal policies and I for sure don't like what is going on now. He is not all knowing and he does tend to think his way is the only way whether you admit it or not.