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Indiana's Religious Freedom Legislation

Started by Palehorse, March 16, 2015, 06:04:18 PM

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Anne

According to the paper they reopened yesterday.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Anne on April 10, 2015, 03:10:32 PM
According to the paper they reopened yesterday.

Quote from: Y on April 06, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
"...not ready to reopen..."

LMAO!

What did I tell ya'.  It looks like they're going to take the money and run.  Apparently, phoney martyrs can be bought and paid for!  Praise gawd!    :wink:

:wink:

WALKERTON, Ind. (AP) — A northern Indiana pizzeria that closed after its owner said his religious beliefs wouldn't allow him to cater a gay wedding opened Thursday to a full house of friends, regulars and people wanting to show their support.

"It's a relief to get going again and try to get back to normal," said Kevin O'Connor, owner of Memories Pizza.

O'Connor closed the shop for eight days after comments by him and his daughter, Crystal, to a local television station supporting a new religious objections law. The law, which has since been revised, sparked a boycott of Indiana.

O'Connor said the criticism hasn't changed his beliefs. He said gays are welcome in his restaurant in the small, one-traffic-light town of Walkerton, 20 miles southwest of South Bend, but that he would decline to cater a same-sex wedding because it would conflict with his Christian beliefs.

"I'd do the same thing again. It's my belief. It's our belief. It's what we grew up on," he said. "I'm just sorry it comes to this because neither one of us dislike any of those people. I don't hold any grudges."

A crowdfunding campaign started by supporters raised more than $842,000 with donations from 29,160 contributors in 48 hours. O'Connor said he hasn't received the money yet, but said he plans to give some to charity and use some money to make improvements to the restaurant.

The 61-year-old father of eight who has owned the restaurant for nine years said he never thought about taking the money and retiring.

"I enjoy it. I don't want to leave here," he said. "I want this to be something that my daughter can enjoy."

Crystal O'Connor said the amount of money was overwhelming.

"We were like, 'Stop! Stop! Stop!'" she said.

"It was really making us uncomfortable," her father said.

The restaurant reopened about 4 p.m. Thursday. He says that within an hour, all eight tables were filled and six people were waiting for carryout orders. There were no protests as of 7 p.m.

Jeanne and Ken Gumm from outside LaPorte, about 20 miles northwest of Walkerton, said they had been waiting for the pizzeria to reopen so they could show their support.

"We couldn't wait to get down here," said Ken Gumm, 66, a tank truck driver. "To us this whole thing isn't about gay marriage. It's mostly about freedom of religion."
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 10, 2015, 03:45:58 PM
:wink:

LMAO! 

You know Hank, even when you troll and prove yourself a hypocrite, you can't even get it right and do the proper reading/comprehension.


Quote from: Y on April 06, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
"...not ready to reopen..."

LMAO!

What did I tell ya'.  It looks like they're going to take the money and run.  Apparently, phoney martyrs can be bought and paid for!  Praise gawd!    :wink:

If you weren't such an uneducated dunce when it comes to the English language, you wouldn't make yourself look like an idiot quite so often.   :yes:

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Bo D

I like this!

North Dakota coffee shop bans lawmakers opposing gay rights bill

Joe Curry, one of the worker-owners of the Red Raven Espresso Parlor, posted a newspaper page in the shop this month that showed the 55 Republican state House members who rejected a bill that would have prohibited discrimination based on sexual orientation in housing, government, public services and the workplace. It was accompanied by a sign saying the legislators were banned, "Unless accompanied by a lesbian, gay, bisexual or transsexual, queer, intersex or asexual person."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/north-dakota-coffee-shop-bans-lawmakers-opposing-gay-rights-bill/2015/04/12/5af4cb1e-e15e-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html
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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 13, 2015, 09:20:53 AM
Typical Liberal Hypocrisy... :yes:

Bull CRAP!

You didn't bother to read the article, I see. (Or maybe you did and you're just so damned obstinate that you don't understand.)

Here's a quote from the article ... with some words bolded to help you ...

"The ban was, I thought, very tongue in cheek, requiring them to be escorted by someone from the LBGT community," Curry said Wednesday. "I hope that they thought about it, at least, and I hope some of them giggled. But in the end, they are all welcome here."
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

I read it, I just think it is typical liberal hypocrisy to think that way, and find it humorous. If it was the other way around, many libs, would complain about such a thought.

Personally, I don't care.  I like an owner having, in the least a since of humor, to express him/herself.  IT IS A FREE COUNTRY, to express yourself, at least that is what the Pizza lady thought in Indiana.....

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Yes, because humor and intolerance are the same thing; right?   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on April 13, 2015, 11:51:28 AM
Yes, because humor and intolerance are the same thing; right?   :rolleyes:

The only intolerance that seems to be going on, is liberals being intolerant with religious freedoms.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 13, 2015, 11:58:56 AM
The only intolerance that seems to be going on, is liberals being intolerant with religious freedoms.....

When are you people going to understand that we have no problem with your right to practice whatever religion you choose as long as you don't discriminate against those who disagree with your choice in the public arena?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on April 12, 2015, 04:51:00 PM


And although this was posted as a cartoon, what if that really happened? It seems to fit your idea of refusing service to sinners who don't practice your brand of beliefs.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Quote from: Bo D on April 13, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
And although this was posted as a cartoon, what if that really happened? It seems to fit your idea of refusing service to sinners who don't practice your brand of beliefs.

:yes:

And read the list of other 'sins' on the sign there.  The possibilities are endless.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on April 13, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
And although this was posted as a cartoon, what if that really happened? It seems to fit your idea of refusing service to sinners who don't practice your brand of beliefs.

AGAIN, like most of the left, you are just flat out getting it WRONG.  NOBODY is saying, they cannot refuse to serve someone.  They are just wanting to reserve the RIGHT to NOT participate in something that violates their religious beliefs. 

THAT is ALL the RFRA is all about.  YOU STILL cannot discriminate. You just want the right to NOT do something that forces you to compromise your beliefs. 

How would it be if a Jewish catering business was asked to serve at a Nazi Convention?  Is that discrimination? Should they be forced to serve or face a lawsuit?

Flip it around, if a Muslim caterer was asked by a Jewish organization to serve them.....If they didn't, the Jewish organization could sue them out of business and move on the the next....and run out all of the muslim caterers......their should be some protection to deny crossing the line with your religious beliefs.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW