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Started by Locutus, March 16, 2015, 11:58:16 AM

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Locutus

And this idiot really wants to be president?  :rolleyes:

"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is known for waging political battles even if the odds of success are slim. He famously launched a 21-hour filibuster in a failed, last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare. But his latest crusade may be his biggest challenge yet: repealing a federal law that does not exist.

On Twitter, Cruz blasted the federal government role in education and called for the repeal of Common Core:


    Federal govt has no business sticking its nose in education. We need to repeal every word of Common Core! #nhpolitics #MakeDCListen

    — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) March 15, 2015

Can Cruz "make DC listen"? It will be particularly hard since Common Core is not, in fact, a federal law."



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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 16, 2015, 11:58:16 AM
And this idiot really wants to be president?  :rolleyes:

"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is known for waging political battles even if the odds of success are slim. He famously launched a 21-hour filibuster in a failed, last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare. But his latest crusade may be his biggest challenge yet: repealing a federal law that does not exist.

On Twitter, Cruz blasted the federal government role in education and called for the repeal of Common Core:


    Federal govt has no business sticking its nose in education. We need to repeal every word of Common Core! #nhpolitics #MakeDCListen

    — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) March 15, 2015

Can Cruz "make DC listen"? It will be particularly hard since Common Core is not, in fact, a federal law."



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You need to quit reading the talking points by the left.

He never said Common Core was Federal Law.

It is OBVIOUS, that he is talking about repealing Common Core State Standards Initiative.  It IS SPONSORED by the National Governors Association, which IS a  liaison between the state governments and the federal government.

There is much more to the story.....

Diane Ravitch, a former assistant U.S. secretary of education, says, "They were developed by an organization called Achieve and the National Governors Association, both of which were generously funded by the Gates Foundation. There was minimal public engagement in the development of the Common Core. Their creation was neither grassroots nor did it emanate from the states." Instead, Common Core is being driven by policymakers in D.C.

While not a federal program, it's strongly championed by the Obama administration; states who adopt the standards are eligible for Race to the Top funds.

Just google this topic, and you will see that it is NOT supported by the majority of folks, it never took off the way it was intended, because of folks in Washington began pushing its agenda into the program.

Cruz is 100% correct with his analysis and YES, wants to be POTUS, and I think he would be a very good one at that.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
You need to quit reading the talking points by the left.

He never said Common Core was Federal Law.

It is OBVIOUS, that he is talking about repealing Common Core State Standards Initiative.  It IS SPONSORED by the National Governors Association, which IS a  liaison between the state governments and the federal government.

There is much more to the story.....

Diane Ravitch, a former assistant U.S. secretary of education, says, "They were developed by an organization called Achieve and the National Governors Association, both of which were generously funded by the Gates Foundation. There was minimal public engagement in the development of the Common Core. Their creation was neither grassroots nor did it emanate from the states." Instead, Common Core is being driven by policymakers in D.C.

While not a federal program, it's strongly championed by the Obama administration; states who adopt the standards are eligible for Race to the Top funds.

Just google this topic, and you will see that it is NOT supported by the majority of folks, it never took off the way it was intended, because of folks in Washington began pushing its agenda into the program.

Cruz is 100% correct with his analysis and YES, wants to be POTUS, and I think he would be a very good one at that.

Bullshit!  Those aren't liberal talking points.  They're his own fucking words.  Can you not read?


Right here ------v


Quote from: Locutus on March 16, 2015, 11:58:16 AM



    Federal govt has no business sticking its nose in education. We need to repeal every word of Common Core! #nhpolitics #MakeDCListen

    — Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) March 15, 2015







One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
You need to quit reading the talking points by the left.

Sort of ironic coming from someone whose post was plagiarized from a right-wing website.   :rolleyes:
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 16, 2015, 02:45:27 PM
Sort of ironic coming from someone whose post was plagiarized from a right-wing website.   :rolleyes:

Wrong!  I read several websites to get my story RIGHT, before I posted.

Locutus? "Bullshit"!  Really?  (No need to get all riled up)  Let's calmly discuss this.   :yes:

You go back and read....He is right, Federal Government has NO BUSINESS sticking its nose in Education.  THEN, he went on to say, we need to repeal every work in Common Core.  Which is also a true statement, he isn't saying it is a Federal Bill or Law.

Like I said, Google it!  There are SEVERAL articles that explain what he is saying.

You are jumping to conclusions. :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

. . .The Common Core State Standards Initiative, known as Common Core, was developed by the states — with input from teachers, education experts and business leaders — and has been voluntarily adopted by 43 states and the District Of Columbia. Notably, "the federal government played no role in creating the standards, nor did it require that states adopt them."
Common Core is not a curriculum but a set of standards regarding what students "should know and be able to do at each grade level in math and English language arts." How kids get there is left to the schools and teachers.
Adopting Common Core was helpful to states seeking federal funding in 2009 under a program called "Race To The Top." But many states that did not receive funding continue to implement Common Core.
Common Core has become a highly politicized topic. In 2013, the Republican National Committee passed a resolution opposing Common Core, calling it "an inappropriate overreach to standardize and control the education of our children." The RNC attacked Obama, who was not involved in the creation of the standards, but ignored the role of many Republicans in creating Common Core. Many of the states that adopted Common Core are controlled, in whole or in part, by Republicans. . . .


It is NOT a federal law, nor was it "forced" upon anybody. The only reason Teddy is crapping his pants is because his opponent for the GOP POTUS nomination backed it. . .

If you're going to speak, at least speak the truth!
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Henry Hawk

Ted and myself told no lie.

He merely made a bold statement which happens to be true.  Libs are getting bent over it for no reason.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 06:24:43 PM
Ted and myself told no lie.

He merely made a bold statement which happens to be true.  Libs are getting bent over it for no reason.

The only ones getting "bent" are the ones getting "bent-over" by this asshat; your children.

This nation continues to slide behind the rest of the globe surrounding the quality and quantity of the education our children are receiving. Idiots like Cruz are attempting to continue the "de-education" of our children in order to fast track the stratification of our class structure and ensure a solid population of sheeple are present to serve the rich. Period.

The real reason(s) for Cruz's little hissy fit are rooted within the fact he wants to slander the reputations of his GOP "brethren" running for the party nomination for president. Purely selfish, purely self-serving. Purely an asshat!  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

I 100% disagree with you on every word you said.  I want to say though, I am not saying Cruz is my man, but he would be a zillion times better than our current lotus.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 07:23:47 PM
I 100% disagree with you on every word you said.  I want to say though, I am not saying Cruz is my man, but he would be a zillion times better than our current lotus.

There's your problem, you focus on the man and NOT what he is standing for.

. . .How do students in the United States compare to those around the world?  According to the latest Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) survey, American students scored in the middle range on the reading, math and science tests taken last year (2012) by 500,000 15-year-olds around the globe. Students in several Asian countries earned the highest scores on the 2012 exams created by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).

"They are never perfect but PISA shows what is possible in education," Andreas Schleicher, OEDC's Deputy Director for Education and Skills said on a video explaining the scores. "It helps countries see themselves in the mirror of the educational results and the opportunities that are delivered by the world's educational leaders."

The PISA test is given every three years in more than 60 countries in an effort to measure achievement. Before the OECD developed the test two decades ago, governments were being compared by how much money they spend on education, not how well students performed, Schleicher told the BBC.

The 2012 survey had a special focus on math literacy, and in that subject Shanghai, China (Taipei, Macau and Hong Kong were also among the testing sites in China) scored higher than any other country measured in the testing round. The United States fared slightly below average compared to other participating countries. . .


Now you might be okay with such a mediocre showing from the children of this nation, but I am absolutely NOT. The fact is, this kind of performance has been ongoing for quite some time now and does not bode well for the longevity of this nation nor its status within the global economy.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/education-july-dec13-pisaresults_12-02/

<a href="/infographic-us-versus-the-world"> U.S. Education versus the World via Master of Arts in Teaching at USC" width="500"  border="0</a>
Via: MAT@USC | Master's of Arts in Teaching

We as a nation spend more per capita on our school aged children than any other nation in the world, and we are obtaining mediocre results from the curriculums being taught. Why? It isn't the teachers fault alone, but rather the wimpy assed approach of the parents who want to see their children "do well" and are willing to sacrifice not only what they are learning, but how they are learning it to achieve that goal. Selfishness that will serve their children very poorly in their formative years.

Common Core recognized this, in part because the men and women doing the teaching cared enough to speak their minds and say what they KNOW needs to be done to correct this.

It isn't a law, but a voluntary curriculum designed to challenge our students so that they are better armed to lead this nation toward success in the future. Yes, some children will struggle with it, and some will fail. But we all aren't natural leaders or students either, and should we sacrifice the future of those that are to patronize those that are not?

Using the education of our children as a lever with which to obtain an advantage over a political opponent is despicable. I do not understand how anyone cannot see that. . .

Check out how the City of Anderson scores vs the world:

Math 30%
Reading 37%

These figures come from a site that you ought to get right behind too: http://globalreportcard.org/map.html#

Check it out. Go to your home state and see where your children's schools rank vs the world; then tell me you think Common Core is a bad idea!
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

I never said he was the man, just that he was a better man than the one we currently have in the white house.

As I believe it was you who stated on another thread, we usually vote for the lesser of two evils.  I am hopeful the GOP will produce a decent candidate.

Where did I suggest to you I was focused on the man and not the issues?  That is most certainly not true!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 08:43:51 PM
. . .
Where did I suggest to you I was focused on the man and not the issues?  That is most certainly not true!

The following clearly suggests you agree with his stated point of view surrounding Common Core; despite its fallacy based suppositions and blatant lies.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 06:24:43 PM
Ted and myself told no lie.

He merely made a bold statement which happens to be true.  . . .

He lied. He should resign his position and be exiled by his peers.

Moreover, you agree with that tripe? Given the statistics supplied to you herein you still think his position is the correct one?  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on March 16, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
The following clearly suggests you agree with his stated point of view surrounding Common Core; despite its fallacy based suppositions and blatant lies.

He lied. He should resign his position and be exiled by his peers.

Moreover, you agree with that tripe? Given the statistics supplied to you herein you still think his position is the correct one?  :spooked:
I will defend myself when I am not on my tablet, it takes forever.  Again you are wrong, as I will point out to you.  The vast majority is not in favor of common core and all for very good reasons.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 16, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
I will defend myself when I am not on my tablet, it takes forever.  Again you are wrong, as I will point out to you.  The vast majority is not in favor of common core and all for very good reasons.

Oh, I look forward to these reasons.  Common Core is supported by a ton of educators in this country.  The majority of the ones opposed are those Tea-Billy assholes who are opposed to just about everything that doesn't suit their very narrow world view. 

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 16, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
Oh, I look forward to these reasons.  Common Core is supported by a ton of educators in this country.  The majority of the ones opposed are those Tea-Billy assholes who are opposed to just about everything that doesn't suit their very narrow world view. 


You are so biased and nasty.  I will have zero problem defending this issue.

With that said I hope you have a great night!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW