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Started by libby, March 09, 2015, 11:15:41 AM

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Quote from: me on September 17, 2015, 01:02:08 AM
If that is true then why is there a record number of people on welfare?

That has been answered so many times I want to projectile regurgitate at reading this quoted post. . .
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me

Maybe it's because your answer makes no sense. I honestly don't remember you answering it but I may have missed the posts.
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on September 20, 2015, 12:31:05 AM
Maybe it's because your answer makes no sense. I honestly don't remember you answering it but I may have missed the posts.

Been answering it for 7 years now. A lot of us have . . . 😱
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me

Guess it made no sense then and was mostly forgettable.
Quote from: Palehorse on September 20, 2015, 07:30:45 PM
Been answering it for 7 years now. A lot of us have . . . 😱
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libby

Have you heard what Kevin McCarthy (R), the likely successor to House Speaker John Boehner said on live TV that surely made Hillary Clinton  :biggrin:  :rotfl: :split:?  It was on the news here yesterday  morning just before the mass shooting in Oregon hit the news.


E.J. Dionne: Kevin McCarthy's truthful gaffe

21 hours ago • E.J. Dionne • ejdionne@washpost.com

"So now we know: One of the principal reasons Republicans spent so much public money investigating the tragic Benghazi episode was to bring down Hillary Clinton's poll numbers.

Rep. Kevin McCarthy, the likely successor to House Speaker John Boehner, told Fox News' Sean Hannity explicitly on Tuesday night that the Clinton investigation was part of a "strategy to fight and win."

He explained: "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened, had we not fought."

The Republican-led House hasn't been particularly good at governing, but perhaps governing has never been the point. Why govern when there's a future election to influence?

No doubt Republicans will clean up after McCarthy's comments by insisting that the politics were a side benefit from a necessary investigation. But it would be nice to know more about the House GOP's internal deliberations as it launched one inquiry into Clinton after another. Did we need another investigation by the select committee headed by Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.? After all, a two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee cleared the military and the CIA of improper behavior in response to the 2012 attack on the diplomatic compound at Benghazi.

Taxpayers might be interested in learning whether their hard-earned money — sorry, I could not resist invoking that favorite GOP cliche — was going out the door primarily to affect the chances of one particular candidate for president. How much? Rob Garver of the Fiscal Times has estimated that the select committee "will likely spend some $6 million by next year."

McCarthy's statement does not make Clinton's problems disappear miraculously. She has suffered damage, some of it self-inflicted, from using a private server during her time at the State Department. Clinton herself has acknowledged that she should have used a government server. Almost no one in her own party believes that she handled the ensuing controversy particularly well. She has recalibrated her response in recent weeks, accepting that she has to answer the questions and meet the challenges thrown her way from journalists and political foes alike.

Fine. But McCarthy's statement gave Democrats what they have long sought: a rather strong public hint that this investigation was never on the level. "This stunning concession from Rep. McCarthy reveals the truth that Republicans never dared admit in public," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., the committee's ranking Democrat. "The core Republican goal in establishing the Benghazi committee was always to damage Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and never to conduct an evenhanded search for the facts." Clinton's defenders hope McCarthy's statement might prod the media to pay attention to the current behavior of the accusers and not just the past behavior of the accused.

McCarthy's admission once again ratified the writer Michael Kinsley's long-ago but still brilliant observation that a gaffe occurs "when a politician tells the truth — some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say." But why did McCarthy do it? Consider the nature of the House Republican Party he'd like to lead.

The main objection of right-wingers in the House to Boehner and their other leaders is that they have not been tough enough as partisans and ideologues. As Rep. Peter Roskam, R-Ill., told The Washington Post's Robert Costa: "We'd be in better shape if we were more rhetorically aggressive with the administration."

Now, perhaps I lack imagination, but I don't know how much more rhetorically aggressive the House GOP could be with President Obama than it has already been — short of accusing the entire administration of treason. But McCarthy wants to mollify the right end of his caucus (and the conservative talk-show complex), so notice the end of his statement emphasizing how Republicans had "fought" to bring Clinton's numbers down. See, McCarthy was telling his party's ultras, we've been really, really partisan — and effective, too. And I'm sure McCarthy was pleased when Hannity gave him a pat on the back. "That's something good," Hannity said. "I give you credit for that."

Bill and Hillary Clinton have been lucky over the years in having a cast of characters arrayed against them who always overplayed their hand. McCarthy, who kept a poker table in his Sacramento house during his days in the California Legislature, went all in a bit too early."

E.J. Dionne
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me

And Harry Reid lied about Romney to bring his poll numbers down. What's the difference? She broke the law period.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on October 03, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
And Harry Reid lied about Romney to bring his poll numbers down. What's the difference? She broke the law period.


  What law?  Prove it.  As usual, you're still full of bull shit, Clarabell.      :jester:

libby

Quote from: me on October 03, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
And Harry Reid lied about Romney to bring his poll numbers down. What's the difference? She broke the law period.
Quote from: The Troll on October 03, 2015, 03:04:31 PM

  What law?  Prove it.  As usual, you're still full of bull shit, Clarabell.      :jester:

That's a reasonable request. What law?
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me

Quote from: libby on October 04, 2015, 12:44:45 AM
That's a reasonable request. What law?
Private server, classified information, ring a bell?
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libby

Quote from: me on October 04, 2015, 01:50:42 AM
Private server, classified information, ring a bell?
:rolleyes: Yes, indeed. I am very familiar with what has been going on. And the problem is/has not been what the former Secretary of State did or did not do while in office.  What the Congress republicans have been doing is political, and McCarthy (R) has learned a hard lesson. To put it simply, you don't brag about dirty tricks publicly until AFTER you get what you want. In fact, smart people don't brag about them at all.




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me

Quote from: libby on October 04, 2015, 01:51:57 PM
  :rolleyes: Yes, indeed. I am very familiar with what has been going on. And the problem is/has not been what the former Secretary of State did or did not do while in office.  What the Congress republicans have been doing is political, and McCarthy (R) has learned a hard lesson. To put it simply, you don't brag about dirty tricks publicly until AFTER you get what you want. In fact, smart people don't brag about them at all.
But Harry Reid lying about Romney isn't worse? I mean he flat lied and is proud of it at least what was brought out about Hillary has truth to it and is totally wrong doing on her part.
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libby

You are comparing someone at the Secretary of State level at a time of international crisis to two quarreling politicians.

I have a suggestion: watch today's edition of Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace. It's  comes on here at 9:a.m. and twice more during the day.  Listen carefully to every word Brit Hume said, take note of the timbre of his voice and the look on his face, and maybe you will get a clue about the seriousness of what McCarthy put out there for the whole world to see and hear.

I am a lifelong democrat, but I don't blindly follow what anyone says or does. I am a fan of Brit Hume, and I don't ever remember seeing him look or sound as defeated as he did this morning.

 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on October 04, 2015, 02:50:18 PM
But Harry Reid lying about Romney isn't worse? I mean he flat lied and is proud of it at least what was brought out about Hillary has truth to it and is totally wrong doing on her part.

  If you want to talk about ancient history, what about all of the lies in Swift boating of John Kerry by the Republicans.  All of the things they said about John was proved to be lies,  Sweet Lips.  :kiss: