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Started by Henry Hawk, February 04, 2015, 09:44:08 AM

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Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 10, 2015, 07:13:20 PM
I do believe this administration is wanting to raise tax's on businesses, dictate a min wage, and what say constitutes full time employment.

As an aside, which would you prefer; raising the tax rates on those making 250k or more, and businesses, or raising your personal tax rate?

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me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 10, 2015, 07:29:30 PM
As an aside, which would you prefer; raising the tax rates on those making 250k or more, and businesses, or raising your personal tax rate?
That also has nothing to do with what I asked.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on February 10, 2015, 07:13:20 PM
I do believe this administration is wanting to raise tax's on businesses, dictate a min wage, and what say constitutes full time employment.

  What in hell do you know about running a business?   Did you not run a business that went under because you didn't know how to run it.  :doh:

Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 10, 2015, 07:35:41 PM
That also has nothing to do with what I asked.

Nice try at avoiding the question. (Which I indicated up front as an aside). So again:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 10, 2015, 07:29:30 PM
As an aside, which would you prefer; raising the tax rates on those making 250k or more, and businesses, or raising your personal tax rate?


R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 10, 2015, 07:47:51 PM
Nice try at avoiding the question. (Which I indicated up front as an aside). So again:
After my question is answered I will answer yours. You don't answer a question by asking a question.
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Exterminator

Quote from: The Troll on February 10, 2015, 07:40:31 PM
  What in hell do you know about running a business?   Did you not run a business that went under because you didn't know how to run it.  :doh:

Exactly.   :rolleyes:
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 10, 2015, 07:13:20 PM
I do believe this administration is wanting to raise tax's on businesses, dictate a min wage, and what say constitutes full time employment.

You believe or you can prove?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me


Quote from: The Troll on February 10, 2015, 07:40:31 PM
  What in hell do you know about running a business?   Did you not run a business that went under because you didn't know how to run it.  :doh:
It was closed because I couldn't find good help dumb ass. Closing was a matter of choice not because it wasn't making money.


Now back to my original question which everyone keeps avoiding by trying to change the subject.


Quote from: me on February 09, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
If you owned a business would you want to have the government telling you how to run it, including what you had to pay your employees, and willingly hand over 50% or more to the government in tax's on your earnings/profits? I'd like for all of you libs/progressives,dems, to answer that one.
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Bo D

Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 09:41:22 AM
It was closed because I couldn't find good help dumb ass. Closing was a matter of choice not because it wasn't making money.


Now back to my original question which everyone keeps avoiding by trying to change the subject.


I'll answer your stupid question!

Let's see, the question was "If you owned a business would you want to have the government telling you how to run it, including what you had to pay your employees, and willingly hand over 50% or more to the government in tax's on your earnings/profits?"

My answer - No. But I don't see any cases where that is happening so I'm safe.

Move on to your next idiotic conspiracy theory.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 09:41:22 AM
It was closed because I couldn't find good help dumb ass. Closing was a matter of choice not because it wasn't making money.

I would submit that that is entirely a product of your unwillingness to compensate your employees commensurate with their abilities and responsibilities.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on February 11, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
I would submit that that is entirely a product of your unwillingness to compensate your employees commensurate with their abilities and responsibilities.
Then you would be wrong. They were compensated well and I worked right along beside them and, in fact, they even got more breaks than I did. Not only that I paid more than the other businesses of the same type at the time it's just that no one wanted to work.

Still has nothing to do with my question.
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me

Quote from: Bo D on February 11, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
I'll answer your stupid question!

Let's see, the question was "If you owned a business would you want to have the government telling you how to run it, including what you had to pay your employees, and willingly hand over 50% or more to the government in tax's on your earnings/profits?"

My answer - No. But I don't see any cases where that is happening so I'm safe.

Move on to your next idiotic conspiracy theory.
You don't think the min wage law is dictating what employees have to be paid? You don't think requiring them to carry ins on employees is dictating to them? I believe the hiring quotas for minorities is still in effect. Are they not talking about raising tax's on profits which, when you include all of the tax's such as state, would have them paying over 50%?
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Bo D

Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
You don't think the min wage law is dictating what employees have to be paid?

As it has since 1938, well before my birth. Maybe not yours.

Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
You don't think requiring them to carry ins on employees is dictating to them?

See above.



Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
I believe the hiring quotas for minorities is still in effect.

I can hire whoever the hell I want as long as I don't discriminate.



Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
Are they not talking about raising tax's on profits which, when you include all of the tax's such as state, would have them paying over 50%?

They talk about a lot of things on Faux News and those trashy sites you visit. I hear they were talking about Elvis being sighted humping a bigfoot, too.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 11, 2015, 12:01:06 PM
Then you would be wrong. They were compensated well and I worked right along beside them and, in fact, they even got more breaks than I did. Not only that I paid more than the other businesses of the same type at the time it's just that no one wanted to work.

Your story makes no sense.  There are hundreds of thousands of successful companies all over the country who employ millions of people yet for some reason, you weren't able to find people who would work for you.  Why do you think all of the people running those businesses are able to accomplish what you could not?  I can think of numerous scenarios...lack of a viable business to start with, ineffective hiring practices, lack of adequate compensation, inability to manage and motivate employees, etc...all of them directly the responsibility of the business owner.  Clearly you do not know how to run a business and that is why yours failed.  Stop blaming everyone else and accept responsibility...isn't that what you conservatives preach?

QuoteStill has nothing to do with my question.

Bo D answered your stupid question.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on February 11, 2015, 12:36:45 PM
Your story makes no sense.  There are hundreds of thousands of successful companies all over the country who employ millions of people yet for some reason, you weren't able to find people who would work for you.  Why do you think all of the people running those businesses are able to accomplish what you could not?  I can think of numerous scenarios...lack of a viable business to start with, ineffective hiring practices, lack of adequate compensation, inability to manage and motivate employees, etc...all of them directly the responsibility of the business owner.  Clearly you do not know how to run a business and that is why yours failed.  Stop blaming everyone else and accept responsibility...isn't that what you conservatives preach?

Bo D answered your stupid question.
Good grief I know of several businesses who can't find good help even though they pay damn good. There is a difference between good help and help that just puts in their time but put forth no effort. Too many people think they can stand around with their thumbs up their ass and still get paid. Try talkng to some small business owners.
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