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Started by Sandy Eggo, February 15, 2015, 09:07:18 PM

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Sandy Eggo

February 15, 2015, 09:07:18 PM
I'm really having a difficult time with this movie. My problem has nothing to do with moral outrage. I couldn't give a fat rat's ass if someone enjoys being tied up and beaten. I couldn't even care if they also enjoy people knowing that's what they enjoy.

What bothers me is the number of women, that I respect and have believed to be intelligent who think this movie is romantic. The number of women I know who look at this upgraded adult version of Cinderella and talk about wanting to switch places with the female lead.

What?!?

They're saying that they'd sell their independence to the highest bidder. Yet, they don't see it that way. They see it as gaining the man of their dreams.

What?!?

The man of your dreams is an abusive control freak? or maybe that doesn't matter because he's rich? The same man, poor, treating a woman the same way, would be labeled an abuser and these same women would be advising their "sister" to get out of that relationship.

I think I feel betrayed. Betrayed by women that I've admired who turn out to be shallow.

Trying to get through this time of "intelligent" conversation about this book series and movie is proving to be very trying indeed. I'm using my "mental vacation" technique to keep quiet avoid alienating people that I've called friends (even though I do see them differently now).

The last time I felt this strongly about a movie was "Titanic". No, "Titanic" is NOT a romantic movie. How can anyone get past the fact that people died because they were poor to give a shit what Jack and what's-her-name did? That's not romance.

Anyway, this article is a pretty good read to take my thoughts a step farther:

http://www.scarymommy.com/a-letter-to-my-children-about-fifty-shades-of-grey/
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

me

#1
February 15, 2015, 10:40:27 PM
I kind of figured that movie would suck and it looks like I was right.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

#2
February 16, 2015, 08:14:01 AM
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

#3
February 16, 2015, 08:33:35 AM
I agree that too many young women will think that is what love is. I have no desire to read the books or see the movie. I have been told that it is not about abuse and I said that to me it is, anytime you have control, emotional and mental you have abuse. But that is just me!

Sandy Eggo

#4
February 16, 2015, 09:08:54 AM
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Sandy Eggo

#5
February 16, 2015, 09:36:19 AM
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on February 16, 2015, 08:33:35 AM
I agree that too many young women will think that is what love is. I have no desire to read the books or see the movie. I have been told that it is not about abuse and I said that to me it is, anytime you have control, emotional and mental you have abuse. But that is just me!

I read the books. I don't normally read "romance" but our local library refused to carry them so I read them on principle. I'll choose what's appropriate not a morally righteous librarian. They are typical of the romance genre in that they're poorly written, juvenile vocabulary and fairly predictable plot. Young woman pretending to be fiercly independent begrudgenly falls in love. Seriously same old song and dance.

I give young women a pass because they don't have the life experience to know that this genre is written to the intellect level of a 12 year old. Anyone older than that should have the mental ability to dismiss it for what it is. Junk.

I'm bothered that women who are older, who know better, who have lived strong and independent lives are so easily lured into something so shallow. Now they want to have "intellectual" discussions about it. Thre is ZERO intellect involved with this series.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#6
February 16, 2015, 10:31:53 AM
Sandy, from what I have learned about this book and movie, I can totally see where you are coming from.  It seemed to me like it is a vicious slam against any woman with a brain.

I think The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water, would have more of an opportunity for an intellectual discussion.... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#7
February 16, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
At least it isn't as hateful toward women as The Bible.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#8
February 16, 2015, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
At least it isn't as hateful toward women as The Bible.


                                                  :thumbsup:

Henry Hawk

#9
February 16, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
At least it isn't as hateful toward women as The Bible.

:rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

#10
February 16, 2015, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
At least it isn't as hateful toward women as The Bible.

True, but the writing is better :biggrin:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Locutus

#11
February 16, 2015, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
At least it isn't as hateful toward women as The Bible.

..or the Koran. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

#12
February 17, 2015, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 16, 2015, 07:14:17 PM
True, but the writing is better :biggrin:

And it doesn't refer to dookie-love as sodomy!   :biggrin:

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Sandy Eggo

#13
February 17, 2015, 10:11:37 PM


:biggrin:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Exterminator

#14
February 18, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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