Ferguson, MO

[Purplelady1040]

  Just how do you know he went for the damn cop's weapon.  The gun wasn't checked for the boys DNA. If he had grabbed it there would be DNA on it.  Why don't you think, use you brain once in awhile.   

I didn't say that he touched the weapon, now did I but that he was trying? Why don't you trying reading what I posted. By the way, no one knows if DNA was on stuff or not and to have DNA last it takes longer than a few seconds for contact. There was a scuffle and who is to say this punk didn't have gloves on.

[Purplelady1040]

OK. Tell me this: If you were in that policeman's shoes, in your car, looking up at an angry 6'4" 300 pound young male of any skin color  -- who had just refused to move out of the middle of the road -- what would you do?

Plus trying to beat the shit out of someone

[Y]

The shooting would have never happened if Brown hadn't robbed that store and had the law called on him.  He was in the wrong period.  He made a poor choice and it cost him his life.  Yes, it is unfortunate that a life was lost but everyone needs to quit making this a black and white thing because it happens to whites too.  It is a state issue to deal with not a federal issue any way you look at it and they need to stay the hell out of it.  It is costing that town and state a lot of money because it was made public and caused businesses to be burned, looted, and vandalized.  How many people are not going to have a paycheck now because of all of this?  His, Brown's, behavior cannot be excused just because he's black and that seems to be what is happening because they, the powers that be whether it be the administration or Sharpton and the Panthers, want to create unrest by making it a black on white thing and drawing the rest of the country into it.

1. The incident at the store had nothing to do with the incident in the street.

2. Being 'in the wrong' doesn't demand the death penalty.

3. The riots are a complete other issue.

4. No one's 'excused' Brown's behavior, just pointing out it wasn't deserving of the death penalty. 

5. It is racist.  It's the institutionalized racism inherent in so many of law enforcement's dealings with minorities - especially blacks.

[Y]

I agree 100% of everything you just said.

Then you're as brain dead as she is.  See my reply to her, take it also as to you.

[Y]

Were you there?  You didn't listen very well last night did you?

Apparently you haven't listened at all.

The altercation had to do with the incident in the street (regardless it wouldn't make any difference to the fact there was no cause to use deadly force).

Had officer Wilson simply ignored the jaywalking as he should have, the confrontation would not have happened. But no!...Wilson just had to show that black kid that both his dick and his gun were bigger and that the black kid was a nobody to be pushed around by white authority.

[Y]

unbelievable
This is why we have riots.   People with this mentality!

One of the reasons we have riots is because blacks, in particular, are sick of being treated as second class citizens after close to 400 years.

[Y]

Another link to the same:  (78 separate items and links to documentation)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/11/25/366507379/ferguson-docs-how-the-grand-jury-reached-a-decision#docs

Here's another one. 

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1370766/interview-po-darren-wilson.txt

If you read closely, this was a second interview with a detective, Wilson, and his attorney.  There is obviously a previous interview which may or may not have included his attorney. 

There should also have been an immediate investigation and interview at the scene.

[Y]

No, a grand jury listens to evidence and decides if there is enough evidence for a trial. I was wrong about the black-white ratio of people on there but there was not enough evidence for a trial. I can tell that you have no clue how the legal system works but that is not surprising.

For an indictment, not a 'trial'.

Grand Juries are usually used by prosecutors to achieve one of two results - to indict someone for which the prosecutor hasn't either the evidence or a case or, as in this instance, as a front for a possible indictment to disappear without political repercussions. The Grand Jury system is one of the most abused and misused arms of the legal system there is.

The Grand Jury concluded Wilson was covered under MO. exemptions of self defense - just like in the Trayvon Martin case.

That exemption is the point I, and others, have at the base of our arguments.  It is now no longer common sense, but instead a 'Wild West' where you can use practically any 'fear' or 'attack' excuse to kill someone.  We can't have that in a society based on the Rule of Law.

[Y]

Really, according to reports they cross examined several people and most of the time cross examination takes place in a trial not a grand jury.

You obviously don't know how a Grand Jury works either, so you, and Me, may as well stop harping about it.

[Y]

That "fleeing person" was a 6 feet 4, almost 300 pound 'teenager' who had just robbed a convenience store, and was walking down the middle of the road with a friend when a policeman told him to move over. Instead of complying, the teenager attacked the policeman while he was still in his car.

I would guess, from that behavior, that he was high, either on alcohol or some kind of drug. Anyway, as my father would have said, all hell broke loose. And the media? 
~

"Now that the grand jury has done its job, isn't it time the media got the Ferguson storyline correct? Ever since the tragic death of Michael Brown, we've heard that an unarmed black teenager was gunned down by a white police officer."

"We now know that a more appropriate line would have been, "Violent robbery suspect killed in attack on police officer."  But the media invested early in the "unarmed teenager" angle and kept repeating it.

"Mr. Brown did not deserve to lose his life over a box of cigars. But he should not have assaulted a store employee or attacked a police officer who confronted him, as are alleged. The only person who put Mtr. Brown in the position in which a police officer would find it necessary to shoot him was Mr. Brown himself.

"Having done so much to bring about the violence, it is probably too late for the major media to undo the damage done. But isn't it time to get the story right?"  -- John Vencius, Oakton

YES! Libby

I'm extremely ashamed of you.  I would have thought better of you.

Not ONE of the crimes of which Brown, in death, stands accused carries a sentence anywhere near capital punishment/death penalty.

That puzzy officer, Wilson, who shouldn't have ever been an officer, took it upon himself to be judge, jury, and executioner while assuring 'dead men tell no tales' to contradict his version of the events.

[Y]

There have been many blacks who have said that when you act like a thug such as Brown did then one will pay the consequences. The best post I read was from an 83 year old black gentleman who said what did the people want the officer to do get the crap beat out of him!

Link, please.

Do we really want LEO's on the job whose response to a situation - even one where they might take an arse whuppin'- to be deadly force, execution?

An officer - like Wilson - who is so inept, so lacking in street smarts and training, and so willing to escalate an unwarranted confrontation with an unarmed teen to the use of deadly force, has absolutely no business being on the force and out there in the street.

[Y]

The right to kill  came into play when this so-called perfect Angel that some seem to think that he was tried to reach for the officer's weapon and was trying to beat the shit out of the officer. What did you want the officer to do, say thank you, may I have another? Afterall, we are talking about kid who had robbed a store, assaulted the store owner and was high.

There is no 'right' to kill, there is a self defense exemption.

Who?  Please point out ANYONE who has claimed Brown was a "perfect angel"?

We have no actual proof Brown tried to reach for the gun, and 'beating the shite' out of an officer - despite what so many of you authoritarians want to think - is NOT a capital offense.

BTW, it was shoplifting, not 'robbery', and the minor assault at the store was reciprocal.

[Purplelady1040]

Link, please.

Do we really want LEO's on the job whose response to a situation - even one where they might take an arse whuppin'- to be deadly force, execution?

An officer - like Wilson - who is so inept, so lacking in street smarts and training, and so willing to escalate an unwarranted confrontation with an unarmed teen to the use of deadly force, has absolutely no business being on the force and out there in the street.

I will see if I can copy and paste the statement!

[Purplelady1040]

There is no 'right' to kill, there is a self defense exemption.

Who?  Please point out ANYONE who has claimed Brown was a "perfect angel"?

We have no actual proof Brown tried to reach for the gun, and 'beating the shite' out of an officer - despite what so many of you authoritarians want to think - is NOT a capital offense.

BTW, it was shoplifting, not 'robbery', and the minor assault at the store was reciprocal.

It becomes a robbery when in the course of a crime and assault occurs. It moves it from a simple shoplifting to a robbery

[Y]

OK. Tell me this: If you were in that policeman's shoes, in your car, looking up at an angry 6'4" 300 pound young male of any skin color  -- who had just refused to move out of the middle of the road -- what would you do?

1. You have it wrong.  Wilson came to Brown to confront him, not the other way around.  Wilson initiated the confrontation.

2. Wilson could have simply ignored it - there was really no need for the confrontation proving Wilson at minimum inept, and at best a bully with a badge and gun.  I pointed out before Wilson just had to show that black kid that both his dick and his gun were bigger and that the black kid was a nobody to be pushed around by white authority.

3. For starters, since Wilson was determined not to ignore it - and there was really no reason to do anything but ignore it - then call backup and keep them in sight till it arrives.  I suspect a reason Wilson didn't do that is because he would have be a laughing stock among his macho buddies and considered an idiot by his superiors - "you wanted back up for a jaywalking?!?"..."you made a scene over jaywalking?!?"

4. Once assaulted he could have: a) pulled away; b) tazed him; c) pepper sprayed him; and on and on and on, all sort of options with the proper street smarts and training, none of them requiring the use of deadly force.