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Palehorse

April 10, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
This time in Madison County, and Edgewood to be exact.

Sunday, a young married couple on their way home from church, were rear-ended by this off duty Edgewood cop; doing 92 miles an hour and full on plowing their vehicle from the rear on state road 32 just outside of Lapel.

The hit caused the victims vehicle to hit a utility pole, broadside and passenger side first; killing the husband (passenger) and severely injuring the 9 month pregnant wife who was airlifted and had her baby delivered via emergency c-section. Mom and baby are doing okay, but daddy is dead.

The off duty cop was booked for OWI, and has admitted to using Hydrocodone and Xanax.

http://www.wthr.com/story/25216273/2014/04/10/edgewood-officer-charged-in-fatal-crash

He was officially charged today with:

Ct-1 Operating While Intoxicated Causing Death, I.C. Code 9-30-5-5, as a Class B Felony (Causing death of another person to wit Jesse Sperry)

Ct-2 Operating While Intoxicated Causing Serious Bodily Injury, I.C. Code 9-30-5-4, as a Class D Felony. (Causing serious bodily injury to another person to wit Rebecca Sperry)

Ct-3 Reckless Driving, I.C. Code 9-21-8-52, as a Class A Misdemeanor.

The Madison County Prosecutor also has added the charge of Reckless Homicide as a Class C Felony, I.C. 35-42-1-5.

What you will not read in this story:

My wife and I babysat our grandson on Saturday night, overnight, so our daughter and her husband could attend a memorial race for their late friend who had passed away unexpectedly a few weeks ago. Our daughter is pregnant and due in August, but despite feeling exhausted by the events activities, agreed to go along with the group of friends to a "new" local lounge for a toast in his honor.

This "new" lounge is currently being referred to as the "New Ramada Inn", after a now defunct and torn down hotels former bar that the areas young and rambunctious crowd used to frequent. It is owned and operated by the former owner of the Ramada Inn, and like the former Ramada Inns Lounge, it hires a certain off duty police officer to act as security into the wee hours. That "officer" is none other than James Foutch, and he was still at that bar at 4:00am when my daughter, her husband, and their party left the establishment. And he was very much under the influence at that time.

Most of the crowd knew him and were friendly with him, since he represented the power to toss them out, as well as the law.

So it was no surprise to our daughter that he was the one who had caused this horrific accident. . . I wonder if anyone has dropped the tip line any of this information????  :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

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Purplelady1040

#1
April 10, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
Wow, that is all I can say about!! He would have been fired from his job as a police officer here before he could blink well!!

Palehorse

#2
April 10, 2014, 06:55:39 PM


Here's a photo of the vehicle he hit and where it came to rest. Easy to see how daddy died. . .

The scumbag is out on bail too.

Had that been any one of us, we'd be rotting UNDER the jail!  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

#3
April 10, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
Yeah, we would be. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are.  >:(

The Troll

#4
April 10, 2014, 10:34:43 PM
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 10, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
Yeah, we would be. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are.  >:(

  I wonder how many people he arrested for drugs, drinking and speeding through Edgewood.   :rant:  Going through Edgewood is like going through a Indian gantlet when it comes to being stopped for nothing.   :rant:  Yes we are beginning to live in a police state.  :trustme:

Purplelady1040

#5
April 11, 2014, 07:39:34 AM
The only problem with cops like him is that he gives good cops a bad name. My ex brother in law is a retired drug detective and was one of the good cops. I know a lot of good cops but it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. :yes:

Y

#6
April 22, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Law enforcement is a topic that needs real discussion and not puerile back and forth name calling.  I know I'm not here much anymore, and I hate to drop by and feel the need to act like mom telling the kids to behave but really, hasn't this topic jumped completely off the rails?

If any of the old Anderson, IN folk remember, Don Carter, myself, and another friend who has since died worked hard to get a Citizen's Review Board instituted in Anderson.

Do you know who resisted us the most?  The officers themselves, put up an horrendous fight against it and were ultimately mainly successful.  There remains no real Citizen Review Board today.  I had numerous friends on the force and lost several of them because I find a CRB to be an integral part of law enforcement.

I think it's obvious that when you put power in the hands of a few, especially the power of life and death, there has to, and must, be direct public oversight of that power.  We know from experience that power tends to corrupt, and that there are certain undesirable personality traits which lend themselves to the LEO occupation.
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

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Palehorse

#7
April 22, 2014, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: Y on April 22, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Law enforcement is a topic that needs real discussion and not puerile back and forth name calling.  I know I'm not here much anymore, and I hate to drop by and feel the need to act like mom telling the kids to behave but really, hasn't this topic jumped completely off the rails?

If any of the old Anderson, IN folk remember, Don Carter, myself, and another friend who has since died worked hard to get a Citizen's Review Board instituted in Anderson.

Do you know who resisted us the most?  The officers themselves, put up an horrendous fight against it and were ultimately mainly successful.  There remains no real Citizen Review Board today.  I had numerous friends on the force and lost several of them because I find a CRB to be an integral part of law enforcement.

I think it's obvious that when you put power in the hands of a few, especially the power of life and death, there has to, and must, be direct public oversight of that power.  We know from experience that power tends to corrupt, and that there are certain undesirable personality traits which lend themselves to the LEO occupation.

I for one would welcome a citizens review board. I think it is desperately needed if for no other reason than to give those who hold "power" a reason to think again before they abuse it.

Certainly what exists now in the city of Anderson is not doing the job, and I'll use former officer Lincoln Brooks as an example of this. He was allowed to run roughshod over the citizens of this city before finally going too far and abusing his power within his personal life. Had a citizens review board been present, I am thinking that he may have been forced to take advantage of help to avoid things going that far.

Instead it seems the "powers that be" feel alright in just sweeping things under the rug until they get so large that they start tripping people.

That is unacceptable to me.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

#8
April 22, 2014, 04:58:54 PM
They have a citizen's review where I live in Ky. It has proved to be very beneficial.

On a different note- what the hell is a Lair and how does a person become one. I guess Troll is another dumbass idiot. Hahahaha

Y

#9
April 22, 2014, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on April 22, 2014, 04:55:16 PM
I for one would welcome a citizens review board. I think it is desperately needed if for no other reason than to give those who hold "power" a reason to think again before they abuse it.

Certainly what exists now in the city of Anderson is not doing the job, and I'll use former officer Lincoln Brooks as an example of this. He was allowed to run roughshod over the citizens of this city before finally going too far and abusing his power within his personal life. Had a citizens review board been present, I am thinking that he may have been forced to take advantage of help to avoid things going that far.

Instead it seems the "powers that be" feel alright in just sweeping things under the rug until they get so large that they start tripping people.

That is unacceptable to me.

Unfortunately, examples like Brooks have been all too common in most municipalities in Madison Co. - and if anyone has been keeping up on statewide news, they are becoming more and more common across the state.

That's why your Edgewood officer story didn't surprise me - Edgewood has a long and corrupt history.

A CRB is essential to proper law enforcement - and also to slow/stop the movement of law enforcement into paramilitary forces.  The military mindset that is infiltrating law enforcement is the antithesis of what we need out of law enforcement.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#10
April 22, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 22, 2014, 04:58:54 PM
They have a citizen's review where I live in Ky. It has proved to be very beneficial.

Is it a fully autonomous fully citizen board equipped with full oversight powers?

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 22, 2014, 04:58:54 PMOn a different note- what the hell is a Lair and how does a person become one. I guess Troll is another dumbass idiot. Hahahaha

:rolleyes:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Purplelady1040

#11
April 22, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
Quote from: Y on April 22, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Is it a fully autonomous fully citizen board equipped with full oversight powers?


That I am not sure of Y, I just know they have one and it probably is one of those cases where it is who you are and who you know that gets you on that board. I will see if I can find out more and let you know.

Y

#12
April 22, 2014, 05:47:10 PM
I'd greatly appreciate it, PL.  Thanx!
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Purplelady1040

#13
April 22, 2014, 06:29:35 PM
I will just call some of those "scumbag" cops that I know who are pretty decent officers and they will tell me about it.

Purplelady1040

#14
April 22, 2014, 07:32:51 PM
Hey, Y!!
I contacted some of the police officers that I know specifically the chief of police and the sheriff plus some regular officers who drive patrol cars and some detectives to ask them about the citizen's review board. The answer I got was they just hear the complaints that say Jon Q. Citizen lodges against an officer or deputy and that is about it. If they feel it is something of merit, they contact Internal Affairs of the law agency but besides they are a nothing body. I kind of figured it was but thought I would check into it for you and see. Not sure if that is the answer you are looking for but at least they listen to complaints and that it is turned over to the Internal Affairs if warranted.
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