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Rewriting the bible

Started by Sandy Eggo, April 08, 2014, 10:48:39 AM

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Sandy Eggo

I need too look some things up, but this is too good not to share. The group of people who operate "Conservapedia" are looking for conservative scholars (sic) to translate the bible without liberal bias. When was it initially translated? Do you think the intent at that time was to be as literal as possible?

This perfectly illustrates the point that all religion is based on the words and perceptions of mankind.

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project
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Bo D

Hmmmm .... Nowhere in that article do I see accuracy of translation from the original languages as a priority.  :rant:
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Henry Hawk

When I first became familiar with conservapedia, I was excited about it.  Then after I started to TRY to utilize it, I became critical of it.  They were TOO biased for me to totally trust it.
I am not oppposed to them translating the Bible, but I think as BoD pointed out, as long as they keep accuracy as a prioriety.  I like the Bible Gateway website to use as a reference.  They have serveral versions of scripture you can easily look at.  This could be okay, but as the saying goes...."consider the source".
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Holy cow!   This part here is a flat out lie too:

"Isaac Newton, who was merely an average student, worked on translating the Bible and that gave him the inspiration and insight for inventing calculus and discovering gravity."
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2014, 11:58:54 AM
Holy cow!   This part here is a flat out lie too:

"Isaac Newton, who was merely an average student, worked on translating the Bible and that gave him the inspiration and insight for inventing calculus and discovering gravity."

How so?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2014, 12:20:46 PM
How so?

Newton invented differential and integral calculus because he needed those tools to explain why planets have elliptical orbits as opposed to circular ones.  It had nothing whatsoever to do with any "inspiration and insight" from the Bible.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2014, 11:58:54 AM
Holy cow!   This part here is a flat out lie too:

"Isaac Newton, who was merely an average student, worked on translating the Bible and that gave him the inspiration and insight for inventing calculus and discovering gravity."

Discovering gravity? Do they mean it didn't exist before Newton found it?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Quote from: Bo D on April 08, 2014, 12:33:01 PM
Discovering gravity? Do they mean it didn't exist before Newton found it?

:biggrin:  :yes:

There are so many lies on Conservapedia that it's almost impossible to count them all. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Newton invented differential and integral calculus because he needed those tools to explain why planets have elliptical orbits as opposed to circular ones.  It had nothing whatsoever to do with any "inspiration and insight" from the Bible.

I'm not sure you can say that it had NOTHING to do with inspiration and insight from the Bible.  He was a theologian, and had a Christian Faith.  He also believed in hidden messages in the Bible.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2014, 12:37:41 PM
:biggrin: :yes:

There are so many lies on Conservapedia that it's almost impossible to count them all. 

I won't even try to defend that statement..... :no: ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on April 08, 2014, 12:33:01 PM
Discovering gravity? Do they mean it didn't exist before Newton found it?
;D
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2014, 01:17:57 PM
I'm not sure you can say that it had NOTHING to do with inspiration and insight from the Bible.  He was a theologian, and had a Christian Faith.  He also believed in hidden messages in the Bible.

I have read several pieces and biographies of Newton and his work, and I've never seen the term theologian used to describe him.   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
I have read several pieces and biographies of Newton and his work, and I've never seen the term theologian used to describe him.   

In the first sentence; Isaac Newton (25 December 1642 – 20 March 1727)[1] was, as considered by others within his own lifetime, an insightful and erudite theologian.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Let alone the fact that he wrote tracts dealing with interpretation of the Bible both literal and symbolic; he never worked on actually translating the Bible.  This work occurred in the 1690s well after his work with differential and integral calculus.  That also shows that the original statement I cited is disingenuous at best and a flat out lie at worst. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2014, 01:25:35 PM
In the first sentence; Isaac Newton (25 December 1642 – 20 March 1727)[1] was, as considered by others within his own lifetime, an insightful and erudite theologian.


Source?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson