Ex-LAPD cop rampage

[Locutus]

Another interesting point to be made in all this is that he had declared war on the L.A. Police Department, but in the end, he didn't kill a single one of their officers. 

[Anne]

Yes, he imagined himself a victim and managed to kill four people who had done absolutely nothing to him.

[Locutus]

WTF????

[Updated at 11:13 p.m. ET] Los Angeles police are now contradicting media reports that a body was found in the cabin.

No such thing was found in the cabin, a Los Angeles Police Department spokesman told reporters moments ago, because cabin is still burning and is too hot to search.

The spokesman said the LAPD will continue to protect the LAPD officers that Dorner – accused of targeting police officers because he the LAPD fired him in 2008 – allegedly identified as potential threats in a letter made public last week.

[Locutus]

I still think they're going to find his remains in there, but the media outlets need to get their story straight before releasing erroneous information. 

[Palehorse]

I still think they're going to find his remains in there, but the media outlets need to get their story straight before releasing erroneous information.

No kidding. Jeebus, in the race to be "first to report the facts" they are making shit up! 

They probably will find a body in there, but I'm finding it hard to accept that it was Dorner. I mean, he was trained to be a  very resourceful individual, to elude detection and create diversions. Why/how does an individual like that forget all their training and throw caution to the wind by trying to jack a car in broad daylight?

Given that he was within 20 miles of where they found his truck, and was within an area of mostly cabins that are only transiently occupied, whomever this was could have been anybody. It could have been some meth-head or something. And it could have been Dorner too.

We have to assume that whomever it was, the individual had a build and skin color that he shared with Dorner; as do millions of people. And Dorner already demonstrated that he could fire accurately under fire, and with deadly intention. Not so much with the reported DNR Officers that first encountered him; and marginally so with the SB Cops he shot after barricading himself in the first cabin.

The person moved cabins afte that, but I have to believe Dorner would have done a better job at getting somewhere that wouldn't have limited his options if forced into an altercation. If it was him he had plenty of time to recon the area and work out options / lay diversions. But didn't? That doesn't play quite right with me.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they find NO body in that cabin. And if that indeed ends up being the case then I would be a lot more accepting of it actually having been Dorner.

If they indeed find a body and it proves to be Dorner, then the psych analysis has to evaluate why he disregarded everything he was trained to do in the end. He most certainly did not follow his training and in fact it would appear intentionally chose not to.

[Locutus]

Well news reports were that the police were tearing down walls of the cabin one by one.  When they were about to complete that operation, they heard a single gun shot. 

I doubt that some random carjacker or meth head would have taken such action.  I really think it was Dorner at this point.  And I also agree with you, it was pretty stupid to try and jack a car in broad daylight.  That's asking to get caught especially knowing that the cops were intensely concentrating their search on that area.

[Palehorse]

Well news reports were that the police were tearing down walls of the cabin one by one.  When they were about to complete that operation, they heard a single gun shot. 

I doubt that some random carjacker or meth head would have taken such action.  I really think it was Dorner at this point.  And I also agree with you, it was pretty stupid to try and jack a car in broad daylight.  That's asking to get caught especially knowing that the cops were intensely concentrating their search on that area.

If it was him then it is pretty clear that he was no where near in possession of the mind-set he had been trained to have under pressure. And likely not in possession of his correct mind. (Which one assumes is the case when any individual goes on a killing rampage in the first place).

[Palehorse]

Yes, he imagined himself a victim and managed to kill four people who had done absolutely nothing to him.

In "his" world, he killed the daughter of the individual that had failed to properly represent him in his grievances with LAPD, and her fiancé. Spot on.

In "his" world he had declared war upon LAPD, and killed officers that stood in the way of him furthering his objectives; remediating obstacles that stood in the way of his objectives. (And high on that list of objectives was remaining at large and alive. remember he had "in his world" warned all law enforcement to not stand in his way or risk being targeted).

Given LAPD's demonstrated penchant for knee jerk reactions, I would not be surprised to find out the man they, SB, roasted in that cabin today was NOT Dorner.

[Henry Hawk]

The fact is he killed an innocent woman.  He is nuts and needs to be "harvested".  I hope the DID get him.  Four DEAD because of him.  He had a grudge against the LAPD, so he was going to take it out on the innocent. 
Sure his manifesto sounded good.  He perhaps had very good reasons for despising the LAPD.  But, NEVER, killing innocent people is an excuse or does it justify his actions.

[Palehorse]

The fact is he killed an innocent woman.  He is nuts and needs to be "harvested".  . . .

So now it is okay to summarily execute human beings that are "nuts"?

[Henry Hawk]

So now it is okay to summarily execute human beings that are "nuts"?

Yep!

[Exterminator]

Yep!

Then you'd better watch your back!   

[Henry Hawk]

Then you'd better watch your back!   

As long as I am hanging out with YOU guys, I will blend right in, and my chances are much better....

[Palehorse]

If the media is to be believed, and I am in no way saying that this is the case, they have an eye witness law-enforcement officer that was "carjacked" face-to-face and positively identified the man they roasted yesterday as Chris Dorner.

Moreover, and again according to the media, they have audio tape of law enforcement during the incident that indicates they intentionally used gas on the individual holed up in that cabin, knowing it would set the structure on fire and intending to burn it down with him inside.

[Exterminator]

Here's the police audio of the shoot out.