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[me]

Holy hell. Now you?

Who is doing the assuming here? Humm. . .?

You are, (surprise!  ) spinning a statement I made to mean something it did not. I asked why you weren't raising as much hell about state secrets such as the Kennedy assassination; I made no insinuation around how you felt about it other than by your own actions, how it must be less important to you than the sitting POTUS. Anything other than that is a figment of your insidious imagination.

At that particular time he may have been calling Hillary a socialist left-wing liberal since he mentioned Obama in the nexy sentence.
He was calling him a left-winged liberal and worse in 2007 and 2008. So when exactly did he "like" him? (He still hasn't answered that question). And why would he? Prior to his running for POTUS you and ol Hank didn't know him from anyone living on the west side of Anderson. And couldn't have cared less about him. His work was representing the people of the State of Illinois.

I am doing no assuming. It was a lie, it was a lie when he posted it, it was a lie yesterday, it is a lie today, and will still be a lie tomorrow; and I proved it by re-posting his with his very own words. (In context and without any "spin" what-so-ever).

You two are so big on sticking to the words spoken and the implied meaning of them when it comes to the POTUS, so how about one or both of you stepping up to the plate and implementing that which you impose upon others, upon yourselves? 

And by the way, I hate to break this to you but the JFK assassination has been discussed here in the past, and if my own memory serves me correctly our late brother, followsthewolf, was a participant in said discussions.

Shall I prove that to you?

There is a one year spread between these posts and that is plenty of time to figure out he didn't like Obama's policies.

    Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2007, 10:56:14 PM
    . . .AND if that person was not a socialist left winged liberal...

    ..Obama, has a little charisma, but, to me, has not proven he is ready to take on the presidency. . .

July 2008:
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    Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 17, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
    . . .
    although, it would not be the end of the world IF joe was picked........I do not want obama as president, that is the bottom line for me...

As far as the Kennedy thing is concerned if you think you can find a post from me which states anything about locking the files up go for it.  Further if you think because there is nothing from me, providing the subject was posted about, it may have been during the time I was new on the forum and posting very little and mostly playing the games, which there were quite a few of at one time. 

Hopefully I got this right but the phone is ringing off the hook again so I'm having to do this and talk at the same time which is slightly distracting....    Sometimes ya just have no choice.   

[me]

There is a one year spread between these posts and that is plenty of time to figure out he didn't like Obama's policies.
As far as the Kennedy thing is concerned if you think you can find a post from me which states anything about locking the files up go for it.  Further if you think because there is nothing from me, providing the subject was posted about, it may have been during the time I was new on the forum and posting very little and mostly playing the games, which there were quite a few of at one time. 

Hopefully I got this right but the phone is ringing off the hook again so I'm having to do this and talk at the same time which is slightly distracting....    Sometimes ya just have no choice.   

Oh, I don't remember seeing Obama's name mentioned in HH's poem you quoted either so how do you connect it to this?

[Palehorse]

Oh, I don't remember seeing Obama's name mentioned in HH's poem you quoted either so how do you connect it to this?

Holy hell. Like shooting fish in a barrel . . .

. . .and whoops I almost forgot.....

Baseball Mama,
Bo D,
and Barack Obama



Now with this all said as Christmas gets nearer
George Bush is the best...nanny nanny neeaner

You had best go back and re-read that lady. . .

Do you EVER read anything? EVER?! 

And fyi - that post wasn't meant to be a comprehensive representation of ol hanks vitriol directed toward Mr. Obama and continuing right through to his Presidential Administration and present day, but rather a brief synopsis of it. And enough to meet the standard of proof that his present day professions were lies. 

comprehension |ˌkämpriˈhenCHən|
noun
1 the action or capability of understanding something:

[me]

Don't recall seeing the older ones but I guess I did comment in a thread last year but, if you'll recall I was going through a lot last year trying to get the house ready to move into, pack, having to go to the hospital for a brief stay 'cause of that darned infection I got from that contact dermatitis I ended up with thanks to that Dove exfoliating body wash, I won't even look at it when I go down that aisle at the store anymore and stay on the other side of the aisle too......not going near that stuff ever again......  (I know, so what).    You are wrong in the assumption that I didn't raise hell about it though.  It may not have been on this forum but I definitely did at the time. 

[Palehorse]

"me" November 13, 2013 @ 7:15:53PM


As far as the Kennedy thing is concerned if you think you can find a post from me which states anything about locking the files up go for it.  Further if you think because there is nothing from me, providing the subject was posted about, it may have been during the time I was new on the forum and posting very little and mostly playing the games, which there were quite a few of at one time. 

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?action=post;quote=254834;topic=8671.0;last_msg=254834

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18207.msg434103#msg434103

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=17518.msg389786#msg389786

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=1365.msg34729#msg34729

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=15940.msg333995#msg333995

So now here's documentation that proves you are lying when you said, "that hasn't been discussed on this forum to my knowledge".

Not only has it been discussed through the years, but several times. So you didn't even bother to look before you opened your pie-hole now did you? Why? Because you didn't care enough about it to do so. You just saw what looked to be a lever with which to try to weasel your way into a dialog that wasn't yours, and surprise; you are wrong again! 

I will submit that your statement is only half a lie though. The "to my knowledge" ending is enough to provide you partial plausible deniability. 

And before you try it let me remind you, you have been here since 2006.

So there you have it. Proof.

Which you conveniently overlooked and then attempt to spin into something else. . . 

[me]

Holy hell. Like shooting fish in a barrel . . .
You had best go back and re-read that lady. . .

Do you EVER read anything? EVER?! 

And fyi - that post wasn't meant to be a comprehensive representation of ol hanks vitriol directed toward Mr. Obama and continuing right through to his Presidential Administration and present day, but rather a brief synopsis of it. And enough to meet the standard of proof that his present day professions were lies. 

comprehension |ˌkämpriˈhenCHən|
noun
1 the action or capability of understanding something:

The connection to Obama eludes me here.  How can you possibly connect his feelings about Bush to his dislike for Obama or his policies?  That's like saying if you like country music you can't possibly like the blues and your lying if you say you do because you professed your love for country music a couple of years ago.

[Palehorse]

The connection to Obama eludes me here.  How can you possibly connect his feelings about Bush to his dislike for Obama or his policies?  That's like saying if you like country music you can't possibly like the blues and your lying if you say you do because you professed your love for country music a couple of years ago.

If I have to explain it you wouldn't understand. Besides, it isn't worth the effort to try to teach anyone that lies anything.

[me]

If I have to explain it you wouldn't understand. Besides, it isn't worth the effort to try to teach anyone that lies anything.

No, explain it.  Lots of people who were singing Bush's praises voted for Obama, obviously or he wouldn't have won, and some who did may have thought about it at first but didn't so that makes no sense and isn't even logical that it should mean HH is lying about what he said, especially since Obama wasn't even a factor yet and it could have ended up being Hillary running. To be clear we're still discussing the poem here.

[Henry Hawk]

Palehorse , enough of your ego bullshit about giving a quarter bullshit.

You simply have your ass chapped because your guy is proving himself to be the loser we all knew he would be. 

I can careless about your "findings" of quotes I said on this forum.  I know how I felt.  I have zero need to lie.  Nor do I give a shit if you think I lied or not.  I am not play no victim card either.  I did at one time bother me how you felt about me.  I am WAY over that.  I will shovel the shit you throw right back in your face every time pal.  I will NEVER back down when I KNOW FOR FACT when I am right.
I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.  I just happen to not think I am wrong when bullshitting on here with you guys.

Not that you will believe me, but I saw Obama speak at the dem convention.  I thought he was smooth.  I thought he would be a pleasant surprise, with all the talk of Hillary running.  It didn't take long for any logical thinking conservative to realize that this guy is NOT a leader.  He read a mean teleprompter, but that was it. 

Somewhere down the road, you lost your sense of humor.  This place is supposed to be for fun....even YOU told me that.  Just because we disagree on most things shouldn't mean you gotta make it personal.  Even Ex and I have found common ground.  Locutus and I have mutual respect.  Troll and I can cut up with one another....but NOT YOU. 

You claim to be a critical thinker, but ONLY when it supports YOUR beliefs.  I am okay with that...IT IS YOUR BELIEFS.  I have mine based upon my understanding and reasoning of what I read and listen to.  But then you attack me and me for NOT agreeing with you.  Lay the fuck off...and quit making it personal.

anyway...blah, blah, blah.  I'm tired, and just blowing off before I turn in.

But, I will shovel shit back at ya any time you want throw my way you will NOT bury me in it, thought you think you can.  I promise I won't lose a wink of sleep either.

[Palehorse]

Palehorse , enough of your ego bullshit about giving a quarter bullshit.

You simply have your ass chapped because your guy is proving himself to be the loser we all knew he would be. 

I can careless about your "findings" of quotes I said on this forum.  I know how I felt.  I have zero need to lie.  Nor do I give a shit if you think I lied or not.  I am not play no victim card either.  I did at one time bother me how you felt about me.  I am WAY over that.  I will shovel the shit you throw right back in your face every time pal.  I will NEVER back down when I KNOW FOR FACT when I am right.
I have no problem admitting when I am wrong.  I just happen to not think Iu am wrong when bullshitting on here with you guys.

Not that you will believe me, but I saw Obama speak at the dem convention.  I thought he was smooth.  I thought he would be a pleasant surprise, with all the talk of Hillary running.  It didn't take long for any logical thinking conservative to realize that this guy is NOT a leader.  He read a mean teleprompter, but that was it. 

Somewhere down the road, you lost your sense of humor.  This place is supposed to be for fun....even YOU told me that.  Just because we disagree on most things shouldn't mean you gotta make it personal.  Even Ex and I have found common ground.  Locutus and I have mutual respect.  Troll and I can cut up with one another....but NOT YOU. 

You claim to be a critical thinker, but ONLY when it supports YOUR beliefs.  I am okay with that...IT IS YOUR BELIEFS.  I have mine based upon my understanding and reasoning of what I read and listen to.  But then you attack me and me for NOT agreeing with you.  Lay the fuck off...and quit making it personal.

anyway...blah, blah, blah.  I'm tired, and just blowing off before I turn in.

But, I will shovel shit back at ya any time you want throw my way you will NOT bury me in it, thought you think you can.  I promise I won't lose a wink of sleep either.

Who is making it personal now?

You lost. Get over it.

[Henry Hawk]

Who is making it personal now?

You lost. Get over it.

What did I lose?  Seriously?  I didn't lose a thing.  I have NOTHING to get over.  Get over yourself.

[Exterminator]

There is a one year spread between these posts and that is plenty of time to figure out he didn't like Obama's policies.

He didn't like Obama's policies before Obama even had any policies, ergo, racist...you know...like you.

[Henry Hawk]

He didn't like Obama's policies before Obama even had any policies, ergo, racist...you know...like you.

I can like someone, despite their policies.  Bill Clinton was likable.  Hell, Obama in my opinion WAS likable.  Given the choice I had at the time, I didn't like ANY of the candidates.  I really never cared for McCain and I still don't.  But his policies were going to be more center than Obamas or Clintons or Edwards or Bidens.  I am a CONSERVATIVE....so, it was easy for me not to get all giddy with any liberal that was elected.

[me]

He didn't like Obama's policies before Obama even had any policies, ergo, racist...you know...like you.

He had policies when he was running against Hillary for the nomination.  Or should I say an agenda or plans for a policy?

[Palehorse]

What did I lose?  Seriously?  I didn't lose a thing. .  .

credibility |ˌkredəˈbilitē|
noun
   the quality of being trusted and believed in:
• the quality of being convincing or believable: