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Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Bo D

I sure hope they keep this thing contained! Ya never know ........


Mysterious bacterium found in Antarctic lake

A new form of microbial life has been found in water samples taken from a giant freshwater lake hidden under kilometers of Antarctic ice, Russian scientists said Monday.

Sergei Bulat and Valery Lukin said in a statement that the "unidentified and unclassified" bacterium has no relation to any of the existing bacterial types. They acknowledged, however, that extensive research of the microbe that was sealed under the ice for millions of years will be necessary to prove the find and determine the bacterium's characteristics.

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2013/03/mysterious-bacterium-found-antarctic-lake?et_cid=3138115&et_rid=54725525&linkid=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rdmag.com%2fnews%2f2013%2f03%2fmysterious-bacterium-found-antarctic-lake
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

followsthewolf

The odds of them keeping it contained?

(I know, I'm a pessimist.)
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

Don't worry. At the rate we are warming it just may be free of the ice cap before they ever figure out what it is. . . :eek:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

libby

I was born an optimist. But sometimes .... 
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Y

My reservations concerning science/invention have always been:

1. Do no harm.

2. You can, but should you.

Just think of the woes visited on humanity that could have been reduced or prevented if those had been given consideration.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

libby

Quote from: Y on March 15, 2013, 08:56:03 PM
My reservations concerning science/invention have always been:

1. Do no harm.

2. You can, but should you.

Just think of the woes visited on humanity that could have been reduced or prevented if those had been given consideration.

1. I agree
2. Depends. Doing it just because you can without regard for the consequences, NO.

And Mr. Y, I hope all is well with you. It's been a while since you've posted.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Y

Quote from: libby on March 15, 2013, 09:51:17 PM


1. I agree
2. Depends. Doing it just because you can without regard for the consequences, NO.

And Mr. Y, I hope all is well with you. It's been a while since you've posted.

I was sick for a while, then I've been very busy, but mostly I have a very hard time psyching myself up for arguing with idiots on the internet.

I had a vision that the internet, and places like this, could be an Agora where people could congregate and use facts, evidence, and logic to come to a consensus for issues necessary to propagate a free self-governing people, but instead I found too many crazies that don't care about anything but their insanity who beat the sane voices down by sheer numbers and volume.

This is still one good spot, but even here no matter how hard I try, or how well I present the evidence/facts, or how compelling my argument I can't persuade even one of the fantasists that their worldview doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It's as I stated elsewhere on the forum, I now see America as an asylum being run by the inmates and I fear for us.

Sorry, I didn't intend to be so depressing.  I'm as fine as being old, broke down, and a curmudgeon can be.   :biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

libby

I'm sorry.  When I feel too down, I walk if at all possible. Sometimes I walk and cry, but it always helps.



All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Bo D

Quote from: Y on March 15, 2013, 11:10:11 PM
I was sick for a while, then I've been very busy, but mostly I have a very hard time psyching myself up for arguing with idiots on the internet.

I had a vision that the internet, and places like this, could be an Agora where people could congregate and use facts, evidence, and logic to come to a consensus for issues necessary to propagate a free self-governing people, but instead I found too many crazies that don't care about anything but their insanity who beat the sane voices down by sheer numbers and volume.

This is still one good spot, but even here no matter how hard I try, or how well I present the evidence/facts, or how compelling my argument I can't persuade even one of the fantasists that their worldview doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It's as I stated elsewhere on the forum, I now see America as an asylum being run by the inmates and I fear for us.

Sorry, I didn't intend to be so depressing.  I'm as fine as being old, broke down, and a curmudgeon can be.   :biggrin:

RE: the number of idiots online ...

I had a theory once about this. It's as if the Internet opened up a way for everyone to be seen (albeit anonymously) and 'published' on the internet and the narcissists and self-centered types piled on.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

followsthewolf

Quote from: Y on March 15, 2013, 11:10:11 PM
I was sick for a while, then I've been very busy, but mostly I have a very hard time psyching myself up for arguing with idiots on the internet.

I had a vision that the internet, and places like this, could be an Agora where people could congregate and use facts, evidence, and logic to come to a consensus for issues necessary to propagate a free self-governing people, but instead I found too many crazies that don't care about anything but their insanity who beat the sane voices down by sheer numbers and volume.

This is still one good spot, but even here no matter how hard I try, or how well I present the evidence/facts, or how compelling my argument I can't persuade even one of the fantasists that their worldview doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It's as I stated elsewhere on the forum, I now see America as an asylum being run by the inmates and I fear for us.

Sorry, I didn't intend to be so depressing.  I'm as fine as being old, broke down, and a curmudgeon can be.   :biggrin:

The situation you describe is very akin to teaching.

The recipient must be willing to accept the information and then process it; else, the dialogue cannot continue.

If each (or one) party has preconceived ideas about  what is being discussed, the exercise is one of futility.

Otherwise, green is green to one and red to the other.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

Bad news for people hoping to join the exclusive "220-mile-high club:" Researchers from the University of Montreal have found that sex in space could lead to life-threatening illnesses.

The researchers discovered that changes in gravity impact the reproductive process in plants, a finding that could have serious health implications for humans. Gravity regulates traffic on the intracellular "highways" that maintain the growth and functionality of the male reproductive organ in plants, called the pollen tube.

According to Professor Anja Geitmann of Montreal University's Department of Biology, the pollen tube is responsible for delivering the sperm cells in plants to the egg. However, only two sperm cells are discharged during each act of plant sex.

"Our findings offer new insight into how life evolved on Earth and are significant with regards to human health, as a traffic jam on these highways that also exist in human cells can cause cancer and illnesses such as Alzheimer's," says Geitmann.
. . .

http://www.sciencerecorder.com/news/sex-in-space-could-be-deadly-finds-study/
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Bo D

Quote from: Palehorse on March 19, 2013, 12:17:36 AM
Bad news for people hoping to join the exclusive "220-mile-high club:" Researchers from the University of Montreal have found that sex in space could lead to life-threatening illnesses.

The researchers discovered that changes in gravity impact the reproductive process in plants, a finding that could have serious health implications for humans. Gravity regulates traffic on the intracellular "highways" that maintain the growth and functionality of the male reproductive organ in plants, called the pollen tube.

According to Professor Anja Geitmann of Montreal University's Department of Biology, the pollen tube is responsible for delivering the sperm cells in plants to the egg. However, only two sperm cells are discharged during each act of plant sex.

"Our findings offer new insight into how life evolved on Earth and are significant with regards to human health, as a traffic jam on these highways that also exist in human cells can cause cancer and illnesses such as Alzheimer's," says Geitmann.
. . .

http://www.sciencerecorder.com/news/sex-in-space-could-be-deadly-finds-study/

Bad news, indeed! I have fantasized about the possibilities of sex in a weightless environment.  :biggrin:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Palehorse

Quote from: Olias on March 19, 2013, 08:50:23 AM
Bad news, indeed! I have fantasized about the possibilities of sex in a weightless environment.  :biggrin:

I know right?!  :icon_twisted:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville