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Exterminator

#195
April 27, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: me on April 27, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
I would feel bad for anyone in his situation.  The media has turned this into a circus hell bent on sensationalism and don't care who gets hurt  as long as they get their story.

He killed someone.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#196
April 27, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 27, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
He killed someone.
I understand that but it could have been an accident and the media has made it impossible for him to ever live a normal life again if it is ruled as such after checking the evidence and it has put his family in jeopardy as well as anyone who may even remotely resemble him looks wise.  If evidence shows he did it on purpose then, yes, he should pay but not his family. 
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The Troll

#197
April 27, 2012, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: me on April 27, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
I understand that but it could have been an accident and the media has made it impossible for him to ever live a normal life again if it is ruled as such after checking the evidence and it has put his family in jeopardy as well as anyone who may even remotely resemble him looks wise.  If evidence shows he did it on purpose then, yes, he should pay but not his family.

  ACCIDENT!  I suppose that you're driving down the highway 100 miles an hour and you closed the Eagles and you got a load of booze in you and you run into a car full of church goers and kill all of them, that's an accident?  Huh, Lead Foot?   :wink: :smile:

Palehorse

#198
April 27, 2012, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: me on April 27, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
I understand that but it could have been an accident and the media has made it impossible for him to ever live a normal life again if it is ruled as such after checking the evidence and it has put his family in jeopardy as well as anyone who may even remotely resemble him looks wise.  If evidence shows he did it on purpose then, yes, he should pay but not his family.

You can thank the Neanderthal gene-pool that is apparently thriving within the US population for that.
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Henry Hawk

#199
April 27, 2012, 01:03:47 PM
in my opinion, this is not about Trayvon or Zimmerman anymore....it is about the media, and how they can manipulate the sheep to thinking in the fashion THEY want.  This is a perfect example.
The media has been PROVEN to have lied, and spin, and "fix" to fire up a group of people.  They are generating news and capitalizing off of it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Palehorse

#200
April 27, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2012, 01:03:47 PM
in my opinion, this is not about Trayvon or Zimmerman anymore....it is about the media, and how they can manipulate the sheep to thinking in the fashion THEY want.  This is a perfect example.
The media has been PROVEN to have lied, and spin, and "fix" to fire up a group of people.  They are generating news and capitalizing off of it.

Just as they have done in politics. . . providing a platform for the whack nuts to scream from.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Bo D

#201
April 27, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2012, 01:03:47 PM
the media, and how they can manipulate the sheep to thinking in the fashion THEY want.  This is a perfect example.
The media has been PROVEN to have lied, and spin, and "fix" to fire up a group of people.  They are generating news and capitalizing off of it.

Precisely! e.g. ... FOX, WND, Rush, etc., etc.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

#202
April 27, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
I think the bigger issue here is that legislation like Florida's stand your ground law, however well intentioned, offer the perfect opportunity for virtually anyone to kill someone else and get away with it.  Ostensibly, all you have to do is make sure you are alone with that person with no witnesses and have a good story.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

#203
April 27, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 27, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
I think the bigger issue here is that legislation like Florida's stand your ground law, however well intentioned, offer the perfect opportunity for virtually anyone to kill someone else and get away with it.  Ostensibly, all you have to do is make sure you are alone with that person with no witnesses and have a good story.

Yes indeed.  And make sure you shoot to kill, so your victim can't contradict whatever "good story" you conjure up. 
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Henry Hawk

#204
April 27, 2012, 01:55:22 PM
Quote from: Olias on April 27, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
Precisely! e.g. ... FOX, WND, Rush, etc., etc.

and huffington post, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, Maher, Schultz, Madlow, NY Times, Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman and etc., etc.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#205
April 27, 2012, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: Locutus on April 27, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Yes indeed.  And make sure you shoot to kill, so your victim can't contradict whatever "good story" you conjure up. 

I think it is sad that they had to make a law, to protect those who truly ARE defending themsleves.....we just need to go back and apply some common and keep out money grubbing lawyers.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#206
April 27, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2012, 01:55:22 PM
and huffington post, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, Maher, Schultz, Madlow, NY Times, Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman and etc., etc.

Had the police done their job none of us ever would have heard about this case and had the media done nothing, Zimmerman would have gotten away with murder.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#207
April 27, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 27, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
Had the police done their job none of us ever would have heard about this case and had the media done nothing, Zimmerman would have gotten away with murder.
you don't KNOW if he mureder him or not.  Unless YOU have special information.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#208
April 27, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
Who else besides me isn't surprised that the same people who claim that their hatred of Obama has nothing to do with race are defending the guy who pursued and then shot an un-armed black teenager?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#209
April 27, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 27, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
Had the police done their job none of us ever would have heard about this case and had the media done nothing, Zimmerman would have gotten away with murder.
It was being investigated or did you miss that.  What happened was simply to stir things up and give the news people something to talk about.
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