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Started by Henry Hawk, July 19, 2011, 11:53:19 AM

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Palehorse

Wow. Even your idol Ronnie understood the impact of tariff upon imports and the importance of it in keeping American companies in business. Just ask Harley Davidson!

And yes, republicans are guilty of treason for their constant "NO"'s !
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2011, 04:16:07 PM
Then tell me Mr. Troll, why hasn't Obama done anything about the Chinese tariffs?........Last fall the republican controlled house voted overwhelmingly to give the Obama administration expanded authority to impose tariffs on virtually all Chinese imports to the United States.....why hasn't HE?

Why hasn't the democrat controlled Senate propose to tax the super rich?  they want to tax those at $250,000 and up.........$250,000 is NOT the super rich...

The Party of "NO" as you and yours put's it.....would have a hard time defending a tax increase on those making several million, but the dems for some reason has failed.

tell me Troll, WHAT has the dems done or proposed to make this country better?....Name them to me.

  Obama isn't God.  Hell he has to fight you damn Republican/Teabagger on everything.  The Party of NO! NO! NOI!  Do you honestly think the Republicans are going to let the Democrats hurt the Golden Calf the rich and the coprorations have sending their business out of the country and make a killing when they bring it back and sell it at Walmart, other big box stores and auto companies.  Dream on Henery. :doh:
 
  Get a hold out yourself and I don't mean your ding dong and just under stand what you just said.  It was totally stupid and moronic.  :knife: :jester:

Henry Hawk

Troll answer my question will you?

and Palehorse, how can you argue this one.....the senate and house both gave him the authority to impose tariffs....Yet, according to Troll THAT is exactly what needs to be done....so guys tell me if it is the right thing to do, then why has he not done it? 

just askin...
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Palehorse

In August 2009 the potus slapped a 35 % tariff on imported tires from China. In January Brady (r) Texas started screaming about it. Then they began demanding the removal of tariffs on imported raw materials (granted 8/11/10).

So let's see! That little piece of legislation was written and passed by congress!
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
Troll answer my question will you?

and Palehorse, how can you argue this one.....the senate and house both gave him the authority to impose tariffs....Yet, according to Troll THAT is exactly what needs to be done....so guys tell me if it is the right thing to do, then why has he not done it? 

just askin...

  You know damn well what the answer is.  If he, Obama brought it up your Republicans/Teabagger would kill  it, require a 2/3 vote on it, not let it out of committee in the Republican controlled house or filibuster it.

  Your Party the Tea Party has enough vote to kill anything Obama wants.  Your people has said the main thing on the agenda and 34 Republicans have signed the pledge is, to make Obama a one term president.

  If you don't know that you are a fool.  :trustme:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on July 19, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
  You know damn well what the answer is.  If he, Obama brought it up your Republicans/Teabagger would kill  it, require a 2/3 vote on it, not let it out of committee in the Republican controlled house or filibuster it.

  Your Party the Tea Party has enough vote to kill anything Obama wants.  Your people has said the main thing on the agenda and 34 Republicans have signed the pledge is, to make Obama a one term president.

  If you don't know that you are a fool.  :trustme:

Troll, it already has been voted on and the vast majority of the Republicans went along with almost all of the dems to give Obama the power to impose tariff on China....

WASHINGTON — The House of Representatives sent an unusually confrontational signal to the Chinese leadership on Wednesday, voting overwhelmingly to give the Obama administration expanded authority to impose tariffs on virtually all Chinese imports to the United States.

The bill
passed 348 to 79 and included the support of 99 Republicans, a highly unusual bipartisan vote at a time when large numbers of House Republicans have rarely joined Democrats on an economic issue.

Why have they NOT imposed any IF this is such a great deal is all I am asking you....?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 20, 2011, 08:54:33 AM
Troll, it already has been voted on and the vast majority of the Republicans went along with almost all of the dems to give Obama the power to impose tariff on China....

WASHINGTON — The House of Representatives sent an unusually confrontational signal to the Chinese leadership on Wednesday, voting overwhelmingly to give the Obama administration expanded authority to impose tariffs on virtually all Chinese imports to the United States.

The bill
passed 348 to 79 and included the support of 99 Republicans, a highly unusual bipartisan vote at a time when large numbers of House Republicans have rarely joined Democrats on an economic issue.

Why have they NOT imposed any IF this is such a great deal is all I am asking you....?

  When did they give him the bill.  For him to sign into law.  I follow the new pretty close and I have never seen it signed. 

  Doesn't it require a little more than a OK to give him that much  power and isn't required to get an OK for the WTO to do such a thing.  I think when the Republicans dreamed up the World Trade Order they gave up our right to control our trade policy.

  Since you are such an expert on trade dealings would you please check into that.  I think you would know.  I know that all of the fast track treaties the Republicans got us into has been a fast track to the bottom of the barrel for our economy.  :yes:

  Just think George H. Bush, George W's daddy got with the president of Mexico and the prime minister of Canada and dream up and sign the NAFTA trade treaty.  We all have seen what that started. :hanged:

  If it wasn't so bad it would be funny, you voted for George H. Bush, Robert Dole, George W. Bush twice and McCain and Sarah Palin and you wonder why we are in the mess we are.   :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl: :knife: (brain dead)

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on July 20, 2011, 09:58:08 AM
  Just think George H. Bush, George W's daddy got with the president of Mexico and the prime minister of Canada and dream up and sign the NAFTA trade treaty.  We all have seen what that started. :hanged:

and it was signed into law by Bill Clinton....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 20, 2011, 10:08:41 AM
and it was signed into law by Bill Clinton....

  Yep, Old Bill Clinton signed it.  The best president you Republicans ever had and you Republicans impeached him. 

  He signed it but after the main treaty was sign and delivered by George H. Bush and voted for by all of the Republicans in the House and Senate and just enough Democrats to pass the bill, oh yes, the bill was signed by Bill.  What else is new.  You Republicans have all of these bad treaties under your belt and look at what you caused.  Yep :knife:

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll