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America Moving Toward Police State?

Started by Palehorse, January 25, 2011, 11:03:58 AM

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Palehorse

January 25, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
First of all, most Americans are inclined to believe that the recent spate of police officers shot in the last week are the result of either criminals gone wild, or a symptom that supports the gun grabber position that America needs to be disarmed.

Most of us are well aware of the existence of "quotas" surrounding the issuing of traffic violations. The video that follows brings to light that it isn't just traffic violations anymore in one American town, and I am sure this is a lot more wide spread than any of us cares to admit.

Are municipalities across this country doing the same, in direct violation of the Constitution?

http://www.youtube.com/v/jdxMjjTu44s

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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The Troll

#1
January 25, 2011, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on January 25, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
First of all, most Americans are inclined to believe that the recent spate of police officers shot in the last week are the result of either criminals gone wild, or a symptom that supports the gun grabber position that America needs to be disarmed.

Most of us are well aware of the existence of "quotas" surrounding the issuing of traffic violations. The video that follows brings to light that it isn't just traffic violations anymore in one American town, and I am sure this is a lot more wide spread than any of us cares to admit.

Are municipalities across this country doing the same, in direct violation of the Constitution?

http://www.youtube.com/v/jdxMjjTu44s

  If you think it's bad now, it going to get worse.  Every day our stupid lawmakers make new laws (unneeded) to increase police arresting powers.  Next time you're in a crowd of people and your just talking, ask the question, what do you think of the present cops?  I have ask this question several times.  You can't believe who and how many people despise cops.  The new burr cut, bald paramilitary cops.  Also ask how many people in that crowd of people who have had personal run in with smart ass, bully cops, practically everybody.  Have you?

  I can remember how the cops were back when I was a teenager.  You never had a problem with them unless you really hard to cause trouble.  But now they make problems, they beat you up, tear up your property up, they make a lot of unlawful arrests and then kill a large group of people every year and and get away with murder.  It's their and their buddies word against their dead victim.

  Here's something, try to find how many people cop kill each year.  You can't.  They claim they don't keep record of the killings.  Sure they don't, my ass.

  The meaner and brutal they get the more of them are going to be killed.  You can shove and beat people so many times before they fight back.  I know of nothing that can be done about it because the lawyers and the judges are in on it too.

  Our judicial system is really sick and corrupt.

followsthewolf

#2
January 25, 2011, 03:30:23 PM
Never had a negative run-in with a police officer in a one-on-one situation.

In fact, all have been very helpful when asked for assistance.

Most of my friends and colleagues say the same thing.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Anne

#3
January 25, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
Same here.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Bo D

#4
January 25, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
My brother was a police officer. Died in the line of duty. I will never say anything negative about police officers, firefighters, teachers, or nurses.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Palehorse

#5
January 25, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
What I posted here I believe is a symptom of the shrinking revenue stream most municipalities are encountering.
As a result, this increases pressure from the various administrations to look for new ways to generate revenue, and increases expectations from traditional sources for revenue to generate more.

Police forces are most likely being pressured to step up enforcement of laws that, when violations are found, generate revenue.

My example is but one red flag that this is taking place. I suspect there are more. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Bo D

#6
January 25, 2011, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on January 25, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
What I posted here I believe is a symptom of the shrinking revenue stream most municipalities are encountering.
As a result, this increases pressure from the various administrations to look for new ways to generate revenue, and increases expectations from traditional sources for revenue to generate more.

Police forces are most likely being pressured to step up enforcement of laws that, when violations are found, generate revenue.

My example is but one red flag that this is taking place. I suspect there are more. . .

I understand your point. And I agree with most of it. But as you said "Police forces are most likely being pressured"

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

followsthewolf

#7
January 25, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Olias on January 25, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
My brother was a police officer. Died in the line of duty. I will never say anything negative about police officers, firefighters, teachers, or nurses.

What he said.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

#8
January 25, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
Quote from: Olias on January 25, 2011, 04:47:57 PM
I understand your point. And I agree with most of it. But as you said "Police forces are most likely being pressured"

Yes, and I expect that more and more of them will eventually reach the threshold of morality that forces them to do as the officer in question did. . .  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

#9
January 25, 2011, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 25, 2011, 03:30:23 PM
Never had a negative run-in with a police officer in a one-on-one situation.

In fact, all have been very helpful when asked for assistance.

Most of my friends and colleagues say the same thing.

  I glad you haven't and won't have a run in with a smart mouth and bully cop.  Well the three cops I have dealings with and I got unfair tickets, they were just collecting money.  They even made it easy for me, they gave me a self address envelope to send the money and ticket in.  How nice of them.

  But how bad do cops have to be for them to take 17 people off of death row in Illionis and release them because of bad police work and poor prosicution.

The Troll

#10
January 26, 2011, 08:50:55 AM
Quote from: Olias on January 25, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
My brother was a police officer. Died in the line of duty. I will never say anything negative about police officers, firefighters, teachers, or nurses.

  You won't huh, even the the 4 cops that shot a guy 24 times in New York City when the tried to pull out his billfold.  Or the cop in  Indianapolis that killed a motorcyclist  with a blood alcohol content of 1.8.  Or the cop in Anderson that killed the guy, shooting him in the chest twice, because the comb he had in his hand look like a gun.

  My sister married a jerk of a fire fighter, nurses that deliver the wrong medicine and I sure had some bad teachers.  My you sure have been lucky.

Bo D

#11
January 26, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Fuck you
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

#12
January 26, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: Olias on January 26, 2011, 09:29:31 AM
Fuck you

  Thank you, I just told you the truth and you throw the F-Bomb.  Rather immature for a grown person.  But when someone says that they won't say anything bad about a cop, fireman, teacher and nurses sure must be wearing really deep tinted rose colored glasses.  I sorry to blow you little, little bubble.  Thanks again, it nice to hear from a very smart and intelligent person :kiss:  :salute:  I'm not serious about the last part.   :biggrin:

Bo D

#13
January 26, 2011, 10:03:47 AM
you wouldn't know the truth if it was a 2x4 that somebody yanked out of your ass and hit you in the face with it.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

#14
January 26, 2011, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: Olias on January 26, 2011, 10:03:47 AM
you wouldn't know the truth if it was a 2x4 that somebody yanked out of your ass and hit you in the face with it.

  You over educated assholes really tickle me.  Just brain dead and no common sense.  In other words, Just plain stupid.   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :genius:
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