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Started by me, January 24, 2011, 07:06:16 PM

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Bo D

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
This bulb was in a lamp with a lamp shade not an enclosed fixture. 

You wrote ....

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
We have enclosed ceiling lights in a couple of our rooms and I am wondering what might have happened if the bulb had been in one of them and the heat couldn't have escaped.  IMO these bulbs are not safe by any stretch of the imagination.


Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
No where on the
box does it mention recessed or enclosed fixtures.

Your ignorance is no excuse.



Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
And another thought on this is that if a person with
asthma were to be exposed to this it could be a very bad thing.

Yeah, yeah ... and if a regular incandescent bulb exploded (it has happened to me) you could cut your feet to pieces going to the bathroom in the dark.



Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
I hope you witness the same thing and then you
will understand my concern about these bulbs.

I understand that you probably shouldn't have access to sharp objects.

For somebody who claims to read, I'm surprised you haven't read about the proper use of light bulbs.   
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Like I said, I hope you experience what we did when using the light bulb in a proper manner, which we were, and then you will understand.
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Palehorse

Ever been around a standard fluorescent fixture when it's ballast goes out or the bulbs burn out?

They stink to high heaven and I mean BAD! I've had them go out in facilities I worked in and some of them were so bad the fire department was called. But never was there ever a fire. Smoke and stink? Yep.

I had never thought about the fact those bulbs are fluorescent and requiring a ballast until Olias posted about it. Makes sense though once I realized it.

I might give tem a try myself, but for the stench they create when they go out. I don't want to go through that in my home!  :eek:
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Bo D

Take a hard look at LED bulbs. You can get them at Home Depot now. They might seem expensive but consider that the life expectancy is 20 years under normal conditions and they use even less electricity then CFLs.

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Palehorse

Quote from: Olias on January 28, 2011, 03:49:17 PM
Take a hard look at LED bulbs. You can get them at Home Depot now. They might seem expensive but consider that the life expectancy is 20 years under normal conditions and they use even less electricity then CFLs.

Now THAT sounds like a winner to me. I have been waiting for that!  :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Quote from: Palehorse on January 28, 2011, 03:23:17 PM
Ever been around a standard fluorescent fixture when it's ballast goes out or the bulbs burn out?

They stink to high heaven and I mean BAD! I've had them go out in facilities I worked in and some of them were so bad the fire department was called. But never was there ever a fire. Smoke and stink? Yep.

I had never thought about the fact those bulbs are fluorescent and requiring a ballast until Olias posted about it. Makes sense though once I realized it.

I might give tem a try myself, but for the stench they create when they go out. I don't want to go through that in my home!  :eek:
This was not like a smell you get when a ballast goes out and I have smelled them too. 
That is probably what it was but IMO these still aren't safe bulbs.
Might have to check out those LED bulbs and possibly invest in some for the most used
lights in the house anyway. 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 04:20:59 PM
This was not like a smell you get when a ballast goes out and I have smelled them too. 
That is probably what it was but IMO these still aren't safe bulbs.
Might have to check out those LED bulbs and possibly invest in some for the most used
lights in the house anyway.

  I would set it back on the back burner and quit worrying about it.  Anything made by man on a assembly line can possibly fail.  With your case maybe 1 in a million.  What I can't understand why you circuit breaker didn't shut off.  If it's got a UL label on it I would trust it.  I might not leave it on while I'm not in the house.

  One other thing, I probably would take it back where I bought it and make a complaint and get them to make a complaint to the manufacturer.  I would imagine the store and corporation would like to know about this danger.

me

Quote from: The Troll on January 28, 2011, 05:00:30 PM
 

  I would set it back on the back burner and quit worrying about it.  Anything made by man on a assembly line can possibly fail.  With your case maybe 1 in a million.  What I can't understand why you circuit breaker didn't shut off.  If it's got a UL label on it I would trust it.  I might not leave it on while I'm not in the house.

  One other thing, I probably would take it back where I bought it and make a complaint and get them to make a complaint to the manufacturer.  I would imagine the store and corporation would like to know about this danger.
It has a 5yr warranty on it but the sales receipt is long gone so there's no way to prove how old it is even though anyone with half a brain would know
it's less than 5yrs old but you know how those manufacturers are.  It say's on the box to return it to them not the store where purchased so
the only thing a trip to the store would produce is wasted gas because it wouldn't change a thing
at the store. 

Those LED bulbs sure seem attractive. 
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Bo D

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 05:23:58 PM

Those LED bulbs sure seem attractive.

But still it's your responsibility to buy the right bulb for the application.
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me

Quote from: Olias on January 28, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
But still it's your responsibility to buy the right bulb for the application.
Well duh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 05:23:58 PM
It has a 5yr warranty on it but the sales receipt is long gone so there's no way to prove how old it is even though anyone with half a brain would know
it's less than 5yrs old but you know how those manufacturers are.  It say's on the box to return it to them not the store where purchased so
the only thing a trip to the store would produce is wasted gas because it wouldn't change a thing
at the store. 

Those LED bulbs sure seem attractive.

    Well, sent it back what you got to loose, except a little postage.  I wouldn't bet on it,  but sometimes good things happen when you do what they tell you to do.  I know what you paid for it, I would send the damn thing back. 

me

Quote from: The Troll on January 28, 2011, 07:04:36 PM
    Well, sent it back what you got to loose, except a little postage.  I wouldn't bet on it,  but sometimes good things happen when you do what they tell you to do.  I know what you paid for it, I would send the damn thing back.
You've got a good point Troll.  I think I might try going to the site first and seeing if I can get an email addy and maybe email them a pic of the bulb and tell them what happened and see what happens first.
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 07:09:23 PM
You've got a good point Troll.  I think I might try going to the site first and seeing if I can get an email addy and maybe email them a pic of the bulb and tell them what happened and see what happens first.

Look on the base of the bulb. There should be a unique identifier number on it. They'll use it to track its date of manufacture and to whom it was probably sold in order to determine its age.

My guess is if you send it back and tell them what happened they'll probably send you a free one or a coupon for a free one. . .Maybe even more. . . :yes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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me

Quote from: Palehorse on January 28, 2011, 07:20:36 PM
Look on the base of the bulb. There should be a unique identifier number on it. They'll use it to track its date of manufacture and to whom it was probably sold in order to determine its age.

My guess is if you send it back and tell them what happened they'll probably send you a free one or a coupon for a free one. . .Maybe even more. . . :yes:
I'll take the pic so it can all be seen and attach as many as it takes.  :smile:
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Bo D

Quote from: me on January 28, 2011, 06:59:20 PM
Well duh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

I guess you ain't a rocket scientist then. You were the one who worried about putting CFLs in enclosed ceiling fixtures when they clearly warn you that you have to use special bulbs for that.
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