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NPR terminates Juan Williams

Started by Locutus, October 21, 2010, 04:00:54 PM

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Locutus

Quote from: followsthewolf on October 21, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
When I read the title to the thread, I thought it might belong in the DEAD! thread.

LOL!  Bob Guccione is the latest entry on that thread.  Oh the memories of sneaking into my neighbor's basement where he kept a stash of Penthouse magazines while growing up.   :sneaky:  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on October 21, 2010, 08:29:18 PM
One thing that Mr. Williams, and others who get uneasy when they see people dressed in Muslim attire at the airport forget about, is that in most cases, if they're planning an attack, they're not going to be dressed like that.   None of the 9/11 hijackers were dressed like Muslims.  They blended in.

Exactly! True Dat!

And maybe if corporate Amerika will take a few pills and chill, the normal course of dialog can transpire and folks will come to that realization in short order. Instead, now we'll have them adopting whatever propaganda is currently approved and keeping their dialog to themselves!
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The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on October 21, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Spoken like a true blind person. By that I mean you are letting your distaste for Fox color your view of what just happened to this man, and its ramifications for every single American in this country!

CNN and now NPR just fired individuals for making a personal statement to the press, and for exercising their constitutional right to do so. From my view neither Sanchez or Williams said anything that I would deem worthy of the loss of their positions, and yet there it is.

What are these corporate entities saying by their actions in these cases? They are saying they own you, 24/7/365, and that it doesn't matter if the contract doesn't specifically address the points of personal freedom of expression outside of the workplace, it is clearly implied. And it seems it also provides them the ability to adjudicate you guilty of breech of contract and to nullify it!

What are the implications of this to millions of non-unionized American workers and their unemployed brethren? Freedom of speech is quickly becoming nothing more than a dog and pony show, and corporations are now holding the leads! If you express a distrust or dislike of corporations, goodbye job. If you speak publicly about anything the corporations do not agree with, goodbye job. Even if what you say has nothing to do with the corporation or the industry in general.

As we saw with the Shirley Sherrod debacle, NO ONE is safe from the knee jerk and reactionary actions of the faceless, soul-less corporate almighty. And the SCOTUS just handed them the keys to the kingdom!  :rant: :rant: :rant:

How long before the average Joe/Jane is so oppressed by these actions and undertakings, that they no longer write any kind of opinion, but rather parrot corporate jargon? How long before the media becomes nothing more than a propaganda campaign for these same corporations? A lot of them are already that way, and those that aren't are an endangered species surrounding career longevity.

Like everything else in today's world, this crap will get out of control and FUBAR before anyone holding any position of real authority experiences an AHA moment!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

  Now that you beat that dead horse :deadhorse:  Let's hear your defence of Rush Limbo and all of his truth in broadcasting.

LOsborne

Quote from: The Troll on October 21, 2010, 08:49:17 PM
  Now that you beat that dead horse :deadhorse:  Let's hear your defence of Rush Limbo and all of his truth in broadcasting.

Non sequitur.

followsthewolf

Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

  Poor old Juan Williams.  The poor guy had two jobs.  One was with NPR and one was with Fox. 

  Well, he lost his job talking bullshit and was fired for NPR.  But today Fox gave him a 3 year contract and a pay raise to $3 million.

  Poor Juan Williams  :cry: :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

Locutus

It's interesting that the ditto heads at Fox News are all incensed about this happening to Juan, so much so that their superiors gave him a contract as Troll noted.  However, Bill O'Reilly seems to say he's going to make it a point to "hit 'em where it hurts" and call for the cessation of all taxpayer funding for NPR.  What his sheeple don't realize, and what Bill O'Liely isn't telling them, is that even if that happened, it would be no distraction for the people of NPR.  But that's what Fox does best.  Get the sheeple all riled up thinking that Big Bad Bill is going to do something about it even though it would be meaningless if he succeeds.



One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

The sad part is, at least to me, that FOX and their talking heads are obscuring the real danger in what has happened, and its potential ramifications to American citizens.

I may be wrong, but I am telling you guys it has happened to me, it has happened to Sanchez, and now it has happened to Juan.

Sanchez and Juan will be alright, but the rest of us - - - fodder for the corporate machines. . .

NPR just blinked. . . And the only thing FOX is going to do is further validate the fact they are a prime example of what is wrong with this country in the first place!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

That's 'cuz the folks at Fox are pro-bizness.  :wink:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Palehorse on October 21, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
Man, another guy axed for making a personal statement.  .  . THAT illustrates the power of the corporation to me. They can enjoy  INDIVIDUAL constitutional rights and protections as a faceless, soul-less corporation, but they do not have to abide by those same protections when it comes to their employees!

Was the guy right or wrong? I don't know that I can make that call. He has a right to speak to his concerns as a private individual. I think if there was a mistake he made it was in deciding to voice his feelings on a FAUX programming. . .

Sanchez was fired for a very similar incident by CNN. I myself know exactly how both of these guys feel.

It's a double standard when it comes to corporations, and they are now starting to flex their power over the worthless employees; something the SCOTUS reduced us to with its decision to extend constitutional rights to them. . .

You've summed up my thoughts on this, perfectly. This is a perfect example of why I despise big corporate media.
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me

Soros just donated $1M to NPR.  They could, and should, end up losing their government money because of this incident too.  What is really wrong is these reporters can trash anyone they want to but they can't say anything even remotely negative about radical Muslims or Democrats without getting fired or discredited in some way.
Do you realize that Juan was the only black man working for NPR?  Now how loud do you think the powers that be would be screaming if that were the case at Fox?   
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 21, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
I think it has more to do with NPR, not liking the fact that he had a relationship with FoxNews, and George Soros, who has a great deal of pull with NPR, decided THIS would be a perfect time to let him go....

It is a spineless, anti-American act....
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on October 22, 2010, 01:17:09 AM
Soros just donated $1M to NPR.  They could, and should, end up losing their government money because of this incident too.  What is really wrong is these reporters can trash anyone they want to but they can't say anything even remotely negative about radical Muslims or Democrats without getting fired or discredited in some way.
Do you realize that Juan was the only black man working for NPR?  Now how loud do you think the powers that be would be screaming if that were the case at Fox?

   There you go, because some dumbass goes nuclear on Muslims and I guess against company policy.  Some other dumbass want to shut down a whole radio system.  Typical Republican bullshit.  Have you noticed how many constitutional rights they want to change.  One of them is freedom of speech.

  I just wish, when I get into my car I could turn on my radio and get something entertaining, instead of Rush Limp-paw and all of his Republican lies and bullshit.  Religious preachers and sports shows.  Rush's EIB show, Excellence in Bullshit is on at least 5 radio stations in this area, the last I counted. Hell, I don't even turn on my radio.  I wish they would bring back truth in broadcasting.  The way it is now,  AM Radio just plain sucks.


  Since I just can't stomach Fox TV in any way because they are such lyers.  Just how many black news hosts do they have on Fox.  I would at least watch for a while a Black O'Reiley and a Black Hannity and a Black Glen Beck.  God I'll be smarter after watching all of that bullshit.  :rotfl: :wacko:

The Troll

Quote from: me on October 22, 2010, 01:17:09 AM
Soros just donated $1M to NPR.
               

  And Rupert Murdoch, owner of the Fair and Balanced Fox Newscrap donated $3 million dollars to the Chamber of Commerce shush fund, which uses secret foreign money to produce lying political ads for the Republicans.

  I think George Soros did a public service with his donation.  Murdoch donated his money to kill the middle class.  Just think Murdoch the old son of a bitch with all of his money is still trying to kill the middle class and make the corporations more powerful and cruel.  :knife: