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Started by Sandy Eggo, September 28, 2010, 08:22:43 PM

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LOsborne

Gee, Sandy, I don't work for Lowe's or Wal-Mart. Do you?

I just don't understand how a $12.00-dollar-an-hour unskilled-labor part-timer could fail to grasp the legal complexities of what you and I do everyday to keep them from losing their jobs. snort

We worry about it so they don't have to.

Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

The Troll

Quote from: LOsborne on October 06, 2010, 07:47:56 PM
Gee, Sandy, I don't work for Lowe's or Wal-Mart. Do you?

I just don't understand how a $12.00-dollar-an-hour unskilled-labor part-timer could fail to grasp the legal complexities of what you and I do everyday to keep them from losing their jobs. snort

We worry about it so they don't have to.

  Who in hell are you trying to bullshit.  $12 an  hour for unskilled part time worker.  Don't believe that in a scab white collar company.  You probably pay $7.10 an hour and only let them work 39  hours so you don't have to pay unemployment.  That the par with the corporations anymore.

Lester Sasquatch

Quote from: LOsborne on October 06, 2010, 07:47:56 PM
Gee, Sandy, I don't work for Lowe's or Wal-Mart. Do you?

I just don't understand how a $12.00-dollar-an-hour unskilled-labor part-timer could fail to grasp the legal complexities of what you and I do everyday to keep them from losing their jobs. snort

We worry about it so they don't have to.

I read a law book or two, if you can understand that legal mumbo jumbo you have my admiration. When I cannot fall asleep I pull out those briefs and before I read a page I am sleeping.

What the Hell is a signature? Am I supposed to type something in this box? I guess I'll find out.

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 06, 2010, 04:22:13 PM
:pop:

  Henry,  :biggrin: :pop: watching you been watching the show.  I've been waiting :pop: for you to explain Sharron Angle, Meg Wittman and Christine O'Donnell.   :biggrin:

LOsborne

Quote from: The Troll on October 06, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
  You probably pay $7.10 an hour and only let them work 39  hours so you don't have to pay unemployment. 

Oh Sandy, look. The "fighter for the little guy" has no clue where minimum wage stands, what number of hours legally constitute full-time employment, and is ignorant of the fact that part-timers who are laid off can collect unemployment insurance benefits. Now what was that quote of his I used? Oh yes...

QuoteNothing shows a persons ignorance faster than someone talking about something he or she knows nothing about. 

LOsborne

Quote from: Lester Sasquatch on October 06, 2010, 09:53:27 PM
When I cannot fall asleep I pull out those briefs and before I read a page I am sleeping.


So do I. Shhhhhh! Don't tell.

Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

The Troll

Quote from: LOsborne on October 07, 2010, 08:01:52 AM
Oh Sandy, look. The "fighter for the little guy" has no clue where minimum wage stands, what number of hours legally constitute full-time employment, and is ignorant of the fact that part-timers who are laid off can collect unemployment insurance benefits. Now what was that quote of his I used? Oh yes...

  So I said $7.10 instead of $7.25 big frigging difference, dumb butt.  Also if you live in Indiana where you can be fired for any reason and if you are fired.  You can't receive unemployment until you file a complaint and have a hearing and the labor judge make the decision.  I know about this big time.   Also in Indiana if you don't work 40 hours you have a part time job and can't receive unemployment, if your are laid off or fired.   I know about this big time from a year

  I had a go around about employment laws because of some dumbass HR women "bless the dumbasses".  I have never seen such a bunch of dumbass women Human Resources I dealt with about a year ago.  I have yet to meet a good smart HR woman and the ones I am hearing from now sure have a high opinion of themselves.   Sure making an ass of themselves trying to prove how smart their are.  I have talked to labor lawyers, the state attorney general office the Indiana labor department.  They even have a low opinion of HR people.

  What the big lie is, you people hide your power to kill a person job, saying I really work for the employee, bullshit.  You work for the company and if the higher ups say fire the guy, you fire him and come up with some reason why you did it, then try to clean up the shit you pulled for the company with some off the wall answer.

  Next time you're at Lowes look around for some older people to has spent years working for them.  If their old their working to supplement their Social Security.  They fire people who make to much money or have had a bad run of luck of health insurance.  Or look around at Walmart for old long time workers.  The company with a 53% turn over in employees.  What good HR  people they have.

Palehorse

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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on October 07, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
:lipsrsealed2:

  You know the truth, don't you Palehorse?  The HR persons and in the big box stores, its the HR women that does the dirty work of firing the companies employees.  I think women are more heartless in firing a person, especially a man.  Totally heartless.

Lester Sasquatch

What does that icon mean Troll. I thought it meant palehorse has a cold sore.
What the Hell is a signature? Am I supposed to type something in this box? I guess I'll find out.

The Troll

Quote from: Lester Sasquatch on October 07, 2010, 06:18:11 PM
What does that icon mean Troll. I thought it meant palehorse has a cold sore.

  I sure hope it isn't herpies:  :wink: :smile:

Sandy Eggo

So you encounter one or two people that you weren't happy with and choose to negatively generalize an entire occupation and gender? Brilliant! Really, pat yourself on the back, you've cracked the code. :rolleyes:

Seriously? I think your comments are so idiotic and laughable that I'll have to wait until I'm finished LMAO to explain to you that you should buy a clue. ;D
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

LOsborne

Despite our resident bad-tempered know-it-all's assertions, dismissal does not automatically deny a worker unemployment benefits. To lose benefits, the worker must be fired "for cause." Cause is defined as misconduct, including disregard for the employer's interest, intoxication, the use of illegal drugs, illegal work slowdowns, use of abusive language, absenteeism, and habitual lateness. Even your union cannot get unemployment benefits for you if you are dismissed for misconduct, although many unions have negotiated a "points" system to address habitual absenteeism and tardiness. Nevertheless, "point-out" and you are fired without unemployment benefits, no matter what union you belong to.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Unemployment+Compensation

Whatever the Troll's problem is with Lowe's and Walmart (I am tempted to speculate, but will restrain myself,) I am fairly certain neither retailer employs union workers. Someone close to him must have been dismissed for misconduct, and the Troll cannot bring himself to acknowledge the person did it to himself. He has to find another villain, and he elected the HR department at Lowe's and Walmart.

Here is something to consider though: with the current state of labor law, for the past twenty years it has been impossible to fire someone and deny them unemployment benefits, without the worker knowing it was coming. Step-discipline policies are designed to prevent anyone from breaking policy without knowing they are breaking it. Short of carrying an Uzi to work, or emptying the cash register into your back-pack and being caught on the security camera, a person simply cannot be fired for cause without knowing they had put their job at risk.

So, anybody but me want to hazard a guess about which item on the forbidden list Troll performed? Here's the list again, to make it easier: disregard for the employer's interest, intoxication, the use of illegal drugs, illegal work slowdowns, use of abusive language, absenteeism, and habitual lateness

Also, just to correct a blatant falsehood, full-time in Indiana is anything the employer says it is, up to 40 hours. Labor law says anything over 40 per work week must be paid at time and a half. My company defines full-time as 36 hours per week, and pays overtime after that. I have heard full-time hours as low as 32. The employer also defines how many hours must be worked to earn insurance and paid-time-off benefits. We require 15 hours per week for insurance, and 1800 hours per year for paid vacation.

And if anyone is interested, I am currently hiring in Cairo, IL and Clinton, TN.