"Burn the Quran" day

[Sandy Eggo]

 

[Locutus]

Well pal, because our forefathers who WAS Godly men, gave us our Constitution that give us Americans that very RIGHT to believe in that stupid fuckin' shit so I respectfully say, fuck'n get over it, or move to another Country and start your OWN NO RELIGION CULT... ....yeah I said Cult, that is what people like you are, look it up... .....it seems like YOU are the one who wants to pose a "danger".

1.  I never said you don't have a right to believe in any stupidity you choose to believe in.  This forum is replete with evidence of some of the absolute and complete shit that you believe in most of the time without a single shred of evidence to back it up.  The problem with people like you, and the Muslims, and anyone else who thinks they hear from a nonexistent Sky Daddy, is that you're all so collectively stupid that you can't see the danger that such beliefs pose to the human race. 

2.  Here is the definition of cult:

–noun
       1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
       2.  an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
       3. the object of such devotion.
       4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
       5. Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
       6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
       7.  the members of such a religion or sect.
       8.  any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.


Now I would love to hear your explanation of why atheists and/or agnostics fit into that definition.  Show me that you're not the dummy I think you are.

3.  While you're at it,  step on up and support this statement with a few more facts:

    ....it seems like YOU are the one who wants to pose a "danger".

C'mon HH, do something other than acting like a monkey throwing shit on a wall to see what sticks. 

[me]

Well pal, fortunately for him (and everyone else) our forefathers gave him the right to stay right here and call religion stupid and believe what he wants. Since all religions are cults, then obviously you don't need to leave the country to form one of those either. Cult = followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices. That's what people like YOU are.

Where I find fault here is with you wanting to lump all religions and christians into one pot.  They are not all bad just a few select nutjobs out there and that is where I differ from you in that I don't particularly go for organized religion nor do I consider myself a christian but I won't put people who are true christians like a very good friend of ours or HH.  It is just not right to lump them in with the nutjobs and put them down for what they believe.  All this hate and malice toward christians in general is crazy.  Can't it just be aimed at the particular group or person without including others who have never done nor do they intend to do any harm to anyone? 

[Palehorse]

Where I find fault here is with you wanting to lump all religions and christians into one pot.  They are not all bad just a few select nutjobs out there and that is where I differ from you in that I don't particularly go for organized religion nor do I consider myself a christian but I won't put people who are true christians like a very good friend of ours or HH.  It is just not right to lump them in with the nutjobs and put them down for what they believe.  All this hate and malice toward christians in general is crazy.  Can't it just be aimed at the particular group or person without including others who have never done nor do they intend to do any harm to anyone?

Hello!!! Ironic to see you two claiming the very constitutional rights you would both deny to the Islamic center in New York!

Hate and malice indeed!

How about the religions of this nation start pulling their weight and upholding their civic duty by paying real estate taxes? I bet that would force them to get realistic about their mansions of deceit and hypocrisy!

[me]

Hello!!! Ironic to see you two claiming the very constitutional rights you would both deny to the Islamic center in New York!

Hate and malice indeed!

How about the religions of this nation start pulling their weight and upholding their civic duty by paying real estate taxes? I bet that would force them to get realistic about their mansions of deceit and hypocrisy!

The Islamic center is not being denied the place they chose to put it is the objection.  There are almost 200 already there and no has a problem with them.  Everyone is fully aware they are within their rights they just question the wisdom of it and the reason for it. 

[Palehorse]

The Islamic center is not being denied the place they chose to put it is the objection.  There are almost 200 already there and no has a problem with them.  Everyone is fully aware they are within their rights they just question the wisdom of it and the reason for it.

Yeah, right. That is NOT what guys like this Florida Zealot and those supporting him say. It's not what has been said within this very forum, and I still have not received an acceptable response to:

1. Why it is acceptable for Christian religious symbols to be posted throughout Oklahoma City, when a Christian did the deed.

2. How far away is far enough? This proposed Islamic center will be replacing one that presently exists 2 blocks from the proposed location, and 4 blocks from ground zero. So is 4 blocks the new standard?

Moreover, why is it that you so vigorously invoke constitutional protections when the issue concerns Christianity, but are equally vigorous in opposing those same rights to practitioners of Islam? A chapel in a hospital doesn't make it a church anymore than a prayer room makes a community center a mosque, yet to some on here it would seem to be the case.

This is nothing more than histrionics that play directly into the master plan of the 9/11 terrorists; divide and conquer, the oldest play in the book and we are falling for it 9 years later and we are still reeling.!

The POTUS said it himself this morning;"Building this Islamic center is no different than building a synagog or church on the same site, and you cannot object to one without objecting to all of them". (paraphrased).

[Henry Hawk]

L,

It won't mean a hill of beans to you what proof or links or statements I would post to support my "beliefs".....MY BELIEF's....and I am willing to DIE for MY BELIEFS.  Just as YOU have YOUR beliefs....that is ALL they are L, BELIEFS.  You cannot prove that God does NOT exist anymore than I can prove he does.  Buy you calling me a "stupid fucking" person who believes in "stupid fucking shit" is NOT enough for me to throw up a white flag and kiss some athiest ass.

according to Wikipedia, The word cult refers to a group whose beliefs or practices are considered strange........by most polls, less than 2% of Amerians identify themselvse as Athiests...so, to MOST Amerians that could very well fall under tha "strange" category....so, I can continue to build an arguement that YOU are a cult member.....but, I know better, and have enough respect for you, LOCUTUS, not to ever call you a "stupid fucker" who believes in "stupid fucking shit"....and you know lo, I could even build an arguement that YOU pose a danger to Americans...but, I know you don't.

What gets me on this forum, is how "unclassy" this forum has become....at one time, I truly felt as if we was what I call "cyber" friends.  I was wrong!...and that is due to my own gullibleness....and maybe it is just I am getting thinner skin as I get older.  But some of the shots I have recieved over the last few months has almost become comical....and I will admit I probably deserve some of them.....but one thing I have noticed is how liberals are basicly, mean-spirited to ANYONE who does not see things the way they do.  I am getting way off on a tangent, and off topic, but I am being myself and laying it all out there...this IS a forum, RIGHT?

I am NEVER, EVER going to change anyone's opinion on here and I am certain, that no one is going to do likewise to me......so, it is becoming almost pointless to continue.  I have tried to walk away from here several times, but I always come back....so, I either get removed from here by force, or I just keep on as is, speak my piece and take my licks.

I will say ONE more thing before I move on....I am, and always will be a very, very proud Christian, who believes in God and His Son, with all my might....I know that this land became a great nation because of God, and the men who put Him first. They designed the law of the land for this Country with His guidence and principals.  When it gets to the point where a few people of this land start bitchin at me, because I "choose" to put God first and those people are calling me a danger to the existence of mankind because I choose to do so....well, there ARE going to be some real problems...some problems that I could NOT and WILL not back down from....EVER!

I honestly feel I have been nothing but kind, honest and decent to MOST everyone on here since day one....and yet,......

[Henry Hawk]

Hello!!! Ironic to see you two claiming the very constitutional rights you would both deny to the Islamic center in New York!

Hate and malice indeed!

How about the religions of this nation start pulling their weight and upholding their civic duty by paying real estate taxes? I bet that would force them to get realistic about their mansions of deceit and hypocrisy!

Listen PH, I have not once said that the muslim never had their RIGHT's to build or not build any mosque...just like the preacher who want's to burn the qu'ran....but, the is right and wrong....that is all I have stated....talk about hate and malice?....wow, all I have gathered from you is how much hate and malice you have towards Conservatives and Christian...

[The Troll]

Listen PH, I have not once said that the muslim never had their RIGHT's to build or not build any mosque...just like the preacher who want's to burn the qu'ran....but, the is right and wrong....that is all I have stated....talk about hate and malice?....wow, all I have gathered from you is how much hate and malice you have towards Conservatives and Christian...

  Have you noticed how quiet the Republican leaders are about the Koran burning.  You know want to know why?  They started the hate and fear mongering Bullshit.  Newt, Beck, Hannity and many more.  They want it to go on.  They want trouble, distrust, smoke screen until November.  They want this country in termoil and pain so they can win.

  Just like I said before the Republican Party is EVIL.

[Palehorse]

Listen PH,....talk about hate and malice?....wow, all I have gathered from you is how much hate and malice you have towards Conservatives and Christian...

If that is all you have taken away from this dialog and the ongoing dialog within this forum, then I submit that I will waste no further time in attempting to enlighten you, for it is a futile effort.

You will not recognize reason and common sense when they are 180 degrees from that which you hold as truth.

You will not consider empirical evidence nor recognize the proof it represents.

You steadfastly respond with insidious invectives toward those who endeavor to point out the multitude of errors within your statements, perspectives, and beliefs, then become offended when the opposition utilizes the very same methodology toward you in a last ditch effort to obtain your attention.

I disagree 100% with the majority of conservative values and initiatives presently being put forth. Rolling up the tents and closing up shop where government is concerned, is NOT a constructive answer toward addressing the pressing and increasing needs of the growing number of American citizens who are in dire straights in this country.

I disagree 100% with the republican initiative to undertake obstructionist politics especially in this time of urgent need.

These and many more of the things happening right now, are exactly the milestones the 9/11 terrorists had hoped to achieve,  and while it has taken 9 years to get us here, it is undeniably a direct result of what happened that day.

Instead of pulling together and working toward common goals that will support the average family in this country, we find the republican party hellbent on doing anything they can to make the current administration look bad, and doing whatever it takes to make sure the rich get richer and on the backs of the middle class of this country.

You claim this guy in Florida does not represent Christianity and its purposes in this day and age. Okay, but neither do the actions of the 9/11 terrorists represent the Islamic religion.

[The Troll]

If that is all you have taken away from this dialog and the ongoing dialog within this forum, then I submit that I will waste no further time in attempting to enlighten you, for it is a futile effort.

You will not recognize reason and common sense when they are 180 degrees from that which you hold as truth.

You will not consider empirical evidence nor recognize the proof it represents.

You steadfastly respond with insidious invectives toward those who endeavor to point out the multitude of errors within your statements, perspectives, and beliefs, then become offended when the opposition utilizes the very same methodology toward you in a last ditch effort to obtain your attention.

I disagree 100% with the majority of conservative values and initiatives presently being put forth. Rolling up the tents and closing up shop where government is concerned, is NOT a constructive answer toward addressing the pressing and increasing needs of the growing number of American citizens who are in dire straights in this country.

I disagree 100% with the republican initiative to undertake obstructionist politics especially in this time of urgent need.

These and many more of the things happening right now, are exactly the milestones the 9/11 terrorists had hoped to achieve,  and while it has taken 9 years to get us here, it is undeniably a direct result of what happened that day.

Instead of pulling together and working toward common goals that will support the average family in this country, we find the republican party hellbent on doing anything they can to make the current administration look bad, and doing whatever it takes to make sure the rich get richer and on the backs of the middle class of this country.

You claim this guy in Florida does not represent Christianity and its purposes in this day and age. Okay, but neither do the actions of the 9/11 terrorists represent the Islamic religion.

  Oh, you have such a way words and I agree with you 100%.  I afraid that If Henry and "ME" got their way the American way of life would suck.

[me]

  Have you noticed how quiet the Republican leaders are about the Koran burning.  You know want to know why?  They started the hate and fear mongering Bullshit.  Newt, Beck, Hannity and many more.  They want it to go on.  They want trouble, distrust, smoke screen until November.  They want this country in termoil and pain so they can win.

  Just like I said before the Republican Party is EVIL.

Excuse me Troll but they all discourage hate and violence because it accomplishes nothing and Beck even tells people not to fall into that trap and let the far left goad you into it.  Don't even go there dude. 

[Palehorse]

Excuse me Troll but they all discourage hate and violence because it accomplishes nothing and Beck even tells people not to fall into that trap and let the far left goad you into it.  Don't even go there dude.

And yet. . . their messages and daily programs are filled with hate and malice right out of the gate!

Limbaugh: Obama's "Wreck-onomics" Have Created A "Trail Of Tears"
Posted: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:38:44 EDT
Rush began today's show with a rant about President Obama and the policies Limbaugh later dubbed "wreck-onomics" and blamed for creating a "trail of tears and destructions."  In his opening tirade, Limbaugh suggested that the president has become a "caricature" of a "bumbling, unfocused, destructive politician," claimed that Obama's "word can't be trusted," and called Obama "out of touch" and a "disingenuous guy." Rush then transitioned from attacks on Obama's character to attacks on his economic policies, claiming that the President is "waging war on the entire private sector" and is "destroying the lives of Americans from all walks of life." 

Limbaugh then delved into the controversy surrounding the Islamic community center located near Ground Zero. Rush claimed that the site would not be a community center at all, but instead a "recruitment location" for terrorists. Rush also criticized Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who will be the spiritual leader of the proposed center's religious activities, highlighting his comments from an interview with CNN's Soledad O'Brien and suggesting that they were "blackmail" or "some kind of a threat." Limbaugh even went so far as to claim that Imam Rauf's comments were "exactly how terrorists negotiate." In fact, Rauf's comments echo those of national security experts who have warned of the security implications of anti-Muslim protests.

Limbaugh also speculated about a potential rift between Hillary Clinton and President Obama. He joined the right-wing chorus distorting her comments about the federal debt at a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations to suggest she was attacking Obama. Limbaugh also discussed an article in The Atlantic in which Cuban leader Fidel Castro stated that the "Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore." Rush saw this as an attempt by Castro to appeal to his "simpatico" in the White House, "Barack Hussein Imam Obama," to drop the Cuban trade embargo.

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Media rife with anti-Muslim rhetoric in weeks leading up to 9-11 anniversary
September 09, 2010 9:14 am ET —
As the nation prepares to mark the ninth anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, numerous media figures have propagated anti-Muslim rhetoric, often smearing Muslims as "terrorists," "jihadists," and "extremists," and dismissing Islam altogether as a "militant" and "anti-Semitic" faith.

Media display anti-Muslim bigotry in recent weeks

Geller: "[A]nti-semitism is a basic tenet of Islam." In a September 8 blog post, Atlas Shrugs blogger Pamela Geller quoted Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf's statement that "[t]he very word 'islam' comes from a word cognate to shalom, which means peace in Hebrew." Geller wrote: "Considering that Islamic anti-semitism is a basic tenet of Islam. This is particularly disgusting. Talk about giving us the middle finger."

Peretz questions whether Muslims "are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment." In a September 4 New Republic column, editor-in-chief Martin Peretz wrote that an "intense epidemic of slaughter [in the Islamic world] has been going on for nearly a decade and a half ... without protest, without anything. And it has been going for decades and centuries before that." Peretz then asked, "Why do not Muslims raise their voices against these at once planned and random killings all over the Islamic world?" He continued:

But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.
Buchanan: "[A] Western nation that opens its doors to mass migration from the Islamic world is taking a grave risk with its unity and identity." In an August 24 column, Pat Buchanan defended prejudice against Muslims by stating that while there are millions of "decent, peace-loving Muslims," "one would have to be obtuse not to understand that a Western nation that opens its doors to mass migration from the Islamic world is taking a grave risk with its unity and identity." Buchanan further stated:

This is not an argument for war with Islam, but for recognition that "East is East and West is West" and America cannot absorb and assimilate all the creeds of mankind without ceasing to be who we are.

Prejudice is prejudgment. And if prejudgment is rooted in the history and traditions of a people, and what life has taught us, it is a shield that protects. Only a fool would reject the inherited wisdom of his kind because it fails to comport with the ideology of the moment.
Franklin Graham: "True Islam" can't be practiced in U.S. because "you cannot beat your wife, you cannot do honor killing." On the August 19 broadcast of CNN's John King USA, Franklin Graham repeated his frequent attacks on Islam, claiming: "Remember, true Islam cannot be practiced here in this country. You cannot beat your wife. You cannot do honor killing if you think your daughter has misbehaved. You cannot kill her. And they're protected by the laws of this country. We're not under Sharia law. We're under the Constitution of the United States. And so we're protected."

Buchanan: Islam "is a militant faith." In an August 17 column about Obama's comments on the proposed Islamic center in New York, Buchanan wrote: "Islam is a rising faith, the largest on earth, with 1.5 billion adherents. It is a militant faith that believes it will one day encompass all mankind." He further claimed:

Where it has become the dominant faith, it has been intolerant of rivals, especially Christianity, the faith of the Crusaders.

By no means are all or most Muslims fanatics of the Osama bin Laden variety, but many are uncompromising in their belief that, once their faith becomes the majority faith in a community or society, Muslims should write the rules and Muslims should make the laws.

And if Americans believe that Islam is consistent with pluralism, ecumenism and a belief in the equality of all religions and all lifestyles, we are headed for what the Chinese call "interesting times."
Gingrich compares Islamic center to Nazis erecting sign near Holocaust museum, Japanese site near Pearl Harbor. On the August 16 edition of Fox & Friends, Newt Gingrich said: "Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust museum in Washington. We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There's no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center."

Nugent: "The mosque will attract extremists and radicals who will try to harm America." In an August 19 Washington Times op-ed attacking Park51, Ted Nugent wrote that "[t]he mosque will attract extremists and radicals who will try to harm America." Nugent repeatedly referred to Islam as a "voodoo religion" and concluded, "If additional American blood is spilled in the Big Apple, the politicians who supported this mosque will be as guilty as the Muslim voodoo kooks who love death and destruction in the name of Allah."

Cal Thomas repeatedly suggests Park51 would be a terrorist front. In an August 3 column, conservative commentator Cal Thomas wrote: "Ask yourself: if you wanted to infiltrate a country, wouldn't a grand strategy be to rapidly build mosques from Ground Zero in New York, to Temecula, Calif., and establish beachheads so fanatics could plan and advance their strategies under the cover of religious freedom and that great American virtue known as 'tolerance,' which is being used against us?" In a July 21 post on The Washington Post's On Faith blog, Thomas wrote:

A mosque near Ground Zero is not about tolerance, but triumphalism. It isn't about honoring the dead, but celebrating their deaths.

[...]

Don't we know why our enemies desire a beachhead in America? They wish to launch new terror attacks and forcibly convert Americans to their way of thinking and believing. What will we gain by allowing this to happen?
Morris: Park 51 will be used to "train and recruit Sharia law advocates who become terrorists." On the August 19 edition of Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor Dick Morris cited a study that he claimed said "80 percent of the mosques ... teach Sharia law as the main event." Morris later claimed that Park 51 will be used to "study and promote and train and recruit Sharia law advocates, which, who become terrorists." In his August 18 column, Morris wrote, "The proposed mosque near to ground zero is not really a religious institution. It would be -- as many mosques throughout the nation are -- a terrorist recruitment, indoctrination and training center." Morris also stated, "There can be no doubt that any mosque organized and run by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf will be based on Sharia Law and will serve as local branch office of the pan-Islamic terrorist offensive against the west."

Morris: "[T]hese Sharia mosques ... have become the command center for terrorists," and Park51 "would be, too." On the August 18 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, during a discussion of Park51, Morris claimed that "these Sharia mosques ... have become the command centers for terrorists," adding, "so this one would be, too."

Bolling: Park51 "may be a meeting place for some of the scariest minds -- some of the biggest terrorist minds." On the August 19 edition of Fox & Friends, Fox Business host Eric Bolling claimed that Park51 "may be a meeting place for some of the scariest minds -- some of the biggest terrorist minds."

Kilmeade: "The next Hamburg cell could be right downtown." During the discussion with Bolling on the August 19 Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade said of Park51, "The next Hamburg cell could be right downtown." A terrorist cell in Hamburg, Germany -- whose members would later become the 9-11 hijackers -- is believed to be the origin of the 9-11 plot.

Limbaugh suggests Park51 would be a "recruiting tool for domestic extremists." On the August 3 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh stated that if the Guantanamo Bay detention center "is a recruiting tool for foreign extremists, what about a World Trade Center mosque being a recruiting tool for domestic extremists?"

Fox guest suggests Islamic cultural center is intended to "trumpet" Muslim conquest. On the August 16 edition of Fox & Friends, guest Jeanine Pirro -- former Republican candidate for New York state attorney general -- said, "I think the whole idea of the mosque is outrageous, and if you're a student of history, you know that mosques are often built to trumpet their victories."

Beck asks, "[A]fter you've killed 3,000 people, you're going to now build your mosque?" On his August 18 radio show, Glenn Beck said of Park51: "You look for things that are uniting, I'm sorry, but the Cordoba Project is not uniting. If you wanted to unite people, you don't spit in their face. You don't spit in their face. On the 10th anniversary, after you've killed 3,000 people, you're going to now build your mosque on there, really?" Beck has repeatedly falsely claimed that Park51 was scheduled to open on September 11, 2011. He has also referred to the Islamic center as "the 9-11 mosque" and has wondered if it is "a possibility" that Park51's location is about "inoculation."

Limbaugh calls Islamic center "a victory monument at Ground Zero." On August 17, Limbaugh called Park51 "a victory monument at Ground Zero, which is what this mosque is." He added: "The real question is why do people who don't like this country want that mosque there? What is so important about having it there?"

Palin calls Park 51 a "stab in the heart" for Americans and a "slap" to 9-11 victims. During the August 16 edition of Fox News' On the Record, Fox News contributor Sarah Palin claimed that it was "an insensitive move on the part of those Muslims who want to build that mosque in this location. It feels like a stab in the heart to, collectively, Americans who still have that lingering pain from 9-11." Palin later said, "[T]his is a slap to those innocent victims who were murdered that day on 9-11."

Hoft dubs Park 51 the "Ground Zero Victory Mosque." In an August 16 Gateway Pundit post, Jim Hoft touted Fox News' Bill O'Reilly's criticism of Obama's comments about Park 51 and described the Islamic community center as the "Ground Zero Victory Mosque."

Washington Times: "If the mosque is constructed, the terrorists win." In an August 19 editorial, The Washington Times stated of the planned Islamic community center in New York City: "The Ground Zero Mosque is not healing a rift but deepening a wound. If the mosque is constructed, the terrorists win."

Geller absurdly compared NYC Islamic cultural center to building a KKK "shrine" near black Alabama church. On the August 11 edition of Fox & Friends, Geller absurdly compared building an Islamic cultural center two blocks away from Ground Zero in New York to building a Ku Klux Klan "shrine" near a black church in Alabama.

Hemmer: Park51 could be "the first stop for a radical jihadist who comes to America who wants to go pray." On the September 7 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Bill Hemmer said of Park51, "It could also be the first stop for a radical jihadist who comes to America who wants to go pray."

Boortz: Park51 "being built to commemorate a great victory over the United States on 9-11." During the August 31 edition of Fox & Friends, right-wing radio host Neil Boortz claimed that Park51 is "being built to commemorate a great victory over the United States on 9-11."

Urbanski: "Would it be inflammatory to call the mosque a 'murder mosque' if it's there on Ground Zero?" On the August 27 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, guest host Doug Urbanski asked, "Would it be inflammatory to call the mosque a 'murder mosque' if it's there on Ground Zero?"

Limbaugh compares campaign against Park51 to Cold War: "We're now fighting the mosqueovites." On his August 25 radio show, Limbaugh compared the right-wing campaign against Park51 to the Cold War, claiming, "We're now fighting the mosqueovites."

Gaffney: Protesters holding signs with "Shariah" written in "dripping, blood-red ink" is "informed opposition" to Park51. In an August 26 Washington Times op-ed, Frank Gaffney wrote that protesters at a recent rally against the planned Islamic community center in Manhattan "had come together ... in informed opposition to the impetus behind that mosque: Shariah." Gaffney added: "In fact, throughout the crowd could be seen signs with just the word 'Shariah' lettered in dripping, blood-red ink."
http://mediamatters.org/research/201009090008

[The Troll]

Excuse me Troll but they all discourage hate and violence because it accomplishes nothing and Beck even tells people not to fall into that trap and let the far left goad you into it.  Don't even go there dude.

  You and the have such a hate for the poor, the down and out, the unions, the sick who have no insurance, reading your bullshit, you would think you were in the super rich ilk.

  But you guys really don't hardly have two dimes to rub together.

  I would like the to loss his job and couldn't find another and have no safety nets like they have now.  Nothing, like the Republicans want.  I wonder how long he would have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.  I seen it happen to people who were far better off than the .


  And "me" I like to see how you and your husband lived without your Social Security and Medicare and drug plan  I wonder how long you would last if one of you got sick.  You guys really don't give a damn about anyone but yourselves.  You are true Republicans, to the marrow of our bones.  I would sure like you to get what you want to put on other people.

[me]

Media Matters is the same on the left as you say WND is on the right so don't even try to use that one.  Beck even say's don't believe what he says or what anyone else tells you do the research yourself and then make up your mind.  He does not incite anything nor does O'Reilley.  I don't listen to Limbaugh so I don't have an opinion on that one except that I have never liked to listen to him.  Hannity, well he has guests and both sides of things and I haven't been watching him lately.  Now if these guy's giving opinions or presenting happenings of the day are any different, except they're more truthful, than Air America or any other right wing "opinion show" then something is amiss. 

And yet. . . their messages and daily programs are filled with hate and malice right out of the gate!

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Media rife with anti-Muslim rhetoric in weeks leading up to 9-11 anniversary
September 09, 2010 9:14 am ET —
As the nation prepares to mark the ninth anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, numerous media figures have propagated anti-Muslim rhetoric, often smearing Muslims as "terrorists," "jihadists," and "extremists," and dismissing Islam altogether as a "militant" and "anti-Semitic" faith.

Media display anti-Muslim bigotry in recent weeks

Geller: "[A]nti-semitism is a basic tenet of Islam." In a September 8 blog post, Atlas Shrugs blogger Pamela Geller quoted Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf's statement that "[t]he very word 'islam' comes from a word cognate to shalom, which means peace in Hebrew." Geller wrote: "Considering that Islamic anti-semitism is a basic tenet of Islam. This is particularly disgusting. Talk about giving us the middle finger."

Peretz questions whether Muslims "are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment." In a September 4 New Republic column, editor-in-chief Martin Peretz wrote that an "intense epidemic of slaughter [in the Islamic world] has been going on for nearly a decade and a half ... without protest, without anything. And it has been going for decades and centuries before that." Peretz then asked, "Why do not Muslims raise their voices against these at once planned and random killings all over the Islamic world?" He continued:

But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.
Buchanan: "[A] Western nation that opens its doors to mass migration from the Islamic world is taking a grave risk with its unity and identity." In an August 24 column, Pat Buchanan defended prejudice against Muslims by stating that while there are millions of "decent, peace-loving Muslims," "one would have to be obtuse not to understand that a Western nation that opens its doors to mass migration from the Islamic world is taking a grave risk with its unity and identity." Buchanan further stated:

This is not an argument for war with Islam, but for recognition that "East is East and West is West" and America cannot absorb and assimilate all the creeds of mankind without ceasing to be who we are.

Prejudice is prejudgment. And if prejudgment is rooted in the history and traditions of a people, and what life has taught us, it is a shield that protects. Only a fool would reject the inherited wisdom of his kind because it fails to comport with the ideology of the moment.
Franklin Graham: "True Islam" can't be practiced in U.S. because "you cannot beat your wife, you cannot do honor killing." On the August 19 broadcast of CNN's John King USA, Franklin Graham repeated his frequent attacks on Islam, claiming: "Remember, true Islam cannot be practiced here in this country. You cannot beat your wife. You cannot do honor killing if you think your daughter has misbehaved. You cannot kill her. And they're protected by the laws of this country. We're not under Sharia law. We're under the Constitution of the United States. And so we're protected."

Buchanan: Islam "is a militant faith." In an August 17 column about Obama's comments on the proposed Islamic center in New York, Buchanan wrote: "Islam is a rising faith, the largest on earth, with 1.5 billion adherents. It is a militant faith that believes it will one day encompass all mankind." He further claimed:

Where it has become the dominant faith, it has been intolerant of rivals, especially Christianity, the faith of the Crusaders.

By no means are all or most Muslims fanatics of the Osama bin Laden variety, but many are uncompromising in their belief that, once their faith becomes the majority faith in a community or society, Muslims should write the rules and Muslims should make the laws.

And if Americans believe that Islam is consistent with pluralism, ecumenism and a belief in the equality of all religions and all lifestyles, we are headed for what the Chinese call "interesting times."
Gingrich compares Islamic center to Nazis erecting sign near Holocaust museum, Japanese site near Pearl Harbor. On the August 16 edition of Fox & Friends, Newt Gingrich said: "Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust museum in Washington. We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There's no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center."

Nugent: "The mosque will attract extremists and radicals who will try to harm America." In an August 19 Washington Times op-ed attacking Park51, Ted Nugent wrote that "[t]he mosque will attract extremists and radicals who will try to harm America." Nugent repeatedly referred to Islam as a "voodoo religion" and concluded, "If additional American blood is spilled in the Big Apple, the politicians who supported this mosque will be as guilty as the Muslim voodoo kooks who love death and destruction in the name of Allah."

Cal Thomas repeatedly suggests Park51 would be a terrorist front. In an August 3 column, conservative commentator Cal Thomas wrote: "Ask yourself: if you wanted to infiltrate a country, wouldn't a grand strategy be to rapidly build mosques from Ground Zero in New York, to Temecula, Calif., and establish beachheads so fanatics could plan and advance their strategies under the cover of religious freedom and that great American virtue known as 'tolerance,' which is being used against us?" In a July 21 post on The Washington Post's On Faith blog, Thomas wrote:

A mosque near Ground Zero is not about tolerance, but triumphalism. It isn't about honoring the dead, but celebrating their deaths.

[...]

Don't we know why our enemies desire a beachhead in America? They wish to launch new terror attacks and forcibly convert Americans to their way of thinking and believing. What will we gain by allowing this to happen?
Morris: Park 51 will be used to "train and recruit Sharia law advocates who become terrorists." On the August 19 edition of Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor Dick Morris cited a study that he claimed said "80 percent of the mosques ... teach Sharia law as the main event." Morris later claimed that Park 51 will be used to "study and promote and train and recruit Sharia law advocates, which, who become terrorists." In his August 18 column, Morris wrote, "The proposed mosque near to ground zero is not really a religious institution. It would be -- as many mosques throughout the nation are -- a terrorist recruitment, indoctrination and training center." Morris also stated, "There can be no doubt that any mosque organized and run by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf will be based on Sharia Law and will serve as local branch office of the pan-Islamic terrorist offensive against the west."

Morris: "[T]hese Sharia mosques ... have become the command center for terrorists," and Park51 "would be, too." On the August 18 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, during a discussion of Park51, Morris claimed that "these Sharia mosques ... have become the command centers for terrorists," adding, "so this one would be, too."

Bolling: Park51 "may be a meeting place for some of the scariest minds -- some of the biggest terrorist minds." On the August 19 edition of Fox & Friends, Fox Business host Eric Bolling claimed that Park51 "may be a meeting place for some of the scariest minds -- some of the biggest terrorist minds."

Kilmeade: "The next Hamburg cell could be right downtown." During the discussion with Bolling on the August 19 Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade said of Park51, "The next Hamburg cell could be right downtown." A terrorist cell in Hamburg, Germany -- whose members would later become the 9-11 hijackers -- is believed to be the origin of the 9-11 plot.

Limbaugh suggests Park51 would be a "recruiting tool for domestic extremists." On the August 3 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh stated that if the Guantanamo Bay detention center "is a recruiting tool for foreign extremists, what about a World Trade Center mosque being a recruiting tool for domestic extremists?"

Fox guest suggests Islamic cultural center is intended to "trumpet" Muslim conquest. On the August 16 edition of Fox & Friends, guest Jeanine Pirro -- former Republican candidate for New York state attorney general -- said, "I think the whole idea of the mosque is outrageous, and if you're a student of history, you know that mosques are often built to trumpet their victories."

Beck asks, "[A]fter you've killed 3,000 people, you're going to now build your mosque?" On his August 18 radio show, Glenn Beck said of Park51: "You look for things that are uniting, I'm sorry, but the Cordoba Project is not uniting. If you wanted to unite people, you don't spit in their face. You don't spit in their face. On the 10th anniversary, after you've killed 3,000 people, you're going to now build your mosque on there, really?" Beck has repeatedly falsely claimed that Park51 was scheduled to open on September 11, 2011. He has also referred to the Islamic center as "the 9-11 mosque" and has wondered if it is "a possibility" that Park51's location is about "inoculation."

Limbaugh calls Islamic center "a victory monument at Ground Zero." On August 17, Limbaugh called Park51 "a victory monument at Ground Zero, which is what this mosque is." He added: "The real question is why do people who don't like this country want that mosque there? What is so important about having it there?"

Palin calls Park 51 a "stab in the heart" for Americans and a "slap" to 9-11 victims. During the August 16 edition of Fox News' On the Record, Fox News contributor Sarah Palin claimed that it was "an insensitive move on the part of those Muslims who want to build that mosque in this location. It feels like a stab in the heart to, collectively, Americans who still have that lingering pain from 9-11." Palin later said, "[T]his is a slap to those innocent victims who were murdered that day on 9-11."

Hoft dubs Park 51 the "Ground Zero Victory Mosque." In an August 16 Gateway Pundit post, Jim Hoft touted Fox News' Bill O'Reilly's criticism of Obama's comments about Park 51 and described the Islamic community center as the "Ground Zero Victory Mosque."

Washington Times: "If the mosque is constructed, the terrorists win." In an August 19 editorial, The Washington Times stated of the planned Islamic community center in New York City: "The Ground Zero Mosque is not healing a rift but deepening a wound. If the mosque is constructed, the terrorists win."

Geller absurdly compared NYC Islamic cultural center to building a KKK "shrine" near black Alabama church. On the August 11 edition of Fox & Friends, Geller absurdly compared building an Islamic cultural center two blocks away from Ground Zero in New York to building a Ku Klux Klan "shrine" near a black church in Alabama.

Hemmer: Park51 could be "the first stop for a radical jihadist who comes to America who wants to go pray." On the September 7 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Bill Hemmer said of Park51, "It could also be the first stop for a radical jihadist who comes to America who wants to go pray."

Boortz: Park51 "being built to commemorate a great victory over the United States on 9-11." During the August 31 edition of Fox & Friends, right-wing radio host Neil Boortz claimed that Park51 is "being built to commemorate a great victory over the United States on 9-11."

Urbanski: "Would it be inflammatory to call the mosque a 'murder mosque' if it's there on Ground Zero?" On the August 27 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, guest host Doug Urbanski asked, "Would it be inflammatory to call the mosque a 'murder mosque' if it's there on Ground Zero?"

Limbaugh compares campaign against Park51 to Cold War: "We're now fighting the mosqueovites." On his August 25 radio show, Limbaugh compared the right-wing campaign against Park51 to the Cold War, claiming, "We're now fighting the mosqueovites."

Gaffney: Protesters holding signs with "Shariah" written in "dripping, blood-red ink" is "informed opposition" to Park51. In an August 26 Washington Times op-ed, Frank Gaffney wrote that protesters at a recent rally against the planned Islamic community center in Manhattan "had come together ... in informed opposition to the impetus behind that mosque: Shariah." Gaffney added: "In fact, throughout the crowd could be seen signs with just the word 'Shariah' lettered in dripping, blood-red ink."
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