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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

Started by The Troll, May 24, 2010, 09:03:16 AM

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  Great job Palehorse, I just love it when you chew out this worthless shit ass.  :trustme:

libby

Quote from: The Troll on January 12, 2017, 06:57:52 PM

  Great job Palehorse, I just love it when you chew out this worthless shit ass:trustme:
Huh. Haven't heard that description of a person in a long time. Brings back memories. My father cussed, and he used that one a lot -- only it was one word.  :lol:
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Exterminator

I came across this response from a guy named Scott Mednick to Conservatives' claim that they 'suffered for 8 years under Obummer, now it's your turn':

"I am surprised you would wish suffering upon me. That, of course, is your right, I suppose. I do not wish harm on anyone. Your statement seems to continue the 'US v THEM' mentality. The election is over. It is important to get past campaigning and campaign rhetoric and get down to what is uniting, not dividing and what is best for ALL Americans.


There will never be a President who does everything to everyone's liking. There are things President Obama (and President Clinton) did that I do not like and conversely there are things I can point to that the Presidents Bush did that I agree with. So I am not 100% in lock step with the outgoing President but have supported him and the overall job he did.

And, if you recall, during the Presidential Campaign back in 2008 the campaign was halted because of the "historic crisis in our financial system." Wall Street bailout negotiations intervened in the election process. The very sobering reality was that there likely could be a Depression and the world financial markets could collapse. The United States was losing 800,000 jobs a month and was poised to lose at least 10 million jobs the first year once the new President took office. We were in an economic freefall. So let us recall that ALL of America was suffering terribly at the beginning of Obama's Presidency.

But I wanted to look back over the last 8 years and ask you a few questions. Since much of the rhetoric before Obama was elected was that he would impose Sharia Law, Take Away Your Guns, Create Death Panels, Destroy the Economy, Impose Socialism and, since you will agree that NONE of this came to pass, I was wondering: Why have you suffered so?

So let me ask: Gays and Lesbians can now marry and enjoy the benefits they had been deprived of. Has this caused your suffering?

When Obama took office, the Dow was 6,626. Now it is 19,875. Has this caused your suffering?

We had 82 straight months of private sector job growth – the longest streak in the history of the United States. Has this caused your suffering?

Especially considering where the economy was when he took over, an amazing 11.3 million new jobs were created under President Obama (far more than President Bush). Has this caused your suffering?

Obama has taken Unemployment from 10% down to 4.7%. Has this caused your suffering?

Homelessness among US Veterans has dropped by half. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama shut down the US secret overseas prisons. Has this caused your suffering?

President Obama has created a policy for the families of fallen soldiers to have their travel paid for to be there when remains are flown home. Has this caused your suffering?

We landed a rover on Mars. Has this caused your suffering?

He passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Has this caused your suffering?

Uninsured adults has decreased to below 10%: 90% of adults are insured – an increase of 20 Million Adults. Has this caused your suffering?

People are now covered for pre-existing conditions. Has this caused your suffering?

Insurance Premiums increased an average of $4,677 from 2002-2008, an increase of 58% under Bush. The growth of these insurance premiums has gone up $4,145 – a slower rate of increase. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama added Billions of dollars to mental health care for our Veterans. Has this caused your suffering?

Consumer confidence has gone from 37.7 to 98.1 during Obama's tenure. Has this caused your suffering?

He passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Has this caused your suffering?

His bi-annual Nuclear Summit convinced 16 countries to give up and destroy all their loose nuclear material so it could not be stolen. Has this caused your suffering?

He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term were 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M. Has this caused your suffering?

The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?

The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?

He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?

He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?

He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?

Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?

Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?

He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research. Has this caused your suffering?

He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?

Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030). Has this caused your suffering?

President Obama repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell. Has this caused your suffering?

He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?

He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?

Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?

High School Graduation rates hit 83% – an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?

Corporate profits are up by 144%. Has this caused your suffering?

He normalized relations with Cuba. Has this caused your suffering?

Reliance on foreign oil is at a 40 year low. Has this caused your suffering?

US Exports are up 28%. Has this caused your suffering?

He appointed the most diverse cabinet ever. Has this caused your suffering?

He reduced the number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Has this caused your suffering?

Yes, he killed Osama Bin Laden and retrieved all the documents in his possession for analysis. Perhaps THIS caused your suffering?

From an objective standpoint it would appear that the last eight years have seen some great progress and we were saved from a financial collapse. Things are not perfect. Things can always be better. We are on much better footing now than we were in 2008.

I look forward to understanding what caused you to suffer so much under Obama these last eight years."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Y

What they meant is that they had to suffer the disgrace of a nigra' in the 'White' House for eight years.

"Oh the humanity!"   :rolleyes:
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

Quote from: Y on April 06, 2017, 05:49:41 PM
What they meant is that they had to suffer the disgrace of a nigra' in the 'White' House for eight years.

"Oh the humanity!"   :rolleyes:
That's BS and you know it.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 07:29:55 PM
That's BS and you know it.

Then address the points in Ex's post.  How have you personally suffered?  Hank is welcome to answer that too. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 07:39:44 PM
Then address the points in Ex's post.  How have you personally suffered?  Hank is welcome to answer that too.
When you can't support our current administration due to the divisiveness of the former administration it is causing a lot of people to suffer.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 08:00:33 PM
When you can't support our current administration due to the divisiveness of the former administration it is causing a lot of people to suffer.

WTF does that mean?

Are you on the sauce?  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
Ex's list it BS is what that means.

What, specifically, is BS?  Every one of those things is true. 

If I'm wrong, spell it out specifically.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 08:17:54 PM
What, specifically, is BS?  Every one of those things is true. 

If I'm wrong, spell it out specifically.
What exports are up? The stock market didn't raise until after the election. The jobs are part time or low paying jobs. What prisons did he shut down, where did the inmates go? Insurance deductables have increased as well as premiums to the point some insurance is useless. Credit cards already had to inform people of interest rate increases. Violent crime is down? Could have fooled me. Sucks when a high school graduate can't even give change though.
QuoteHe negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?
Oh really? Seems to me some was just used on the citizens, I guess I could be mistaken about that though huh?
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 08:33:54 PM
What exports are up? The stock market didn't raise until after the election. The jobs are part time or low paying jobs. What prisons did he shut down, where did the inmates go? Insurance deductables have increased as well as premiums to the point some insurance is useless. Credit cards already had to inform people of interest rate increases. Violent crime is down? Could have fooled me. Sucks when a high school graduate can't even give change though. Oh really? Seems to me some was just used on the citizens, I guess I could be mistaken about that though huh?

You had to have been drunk off your ass when you typed this.  No one could be this fucking stupid.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on April 07, 2017, 07:41:03 AM
You had to have been drunk off your ass when you typed this.  No one could be this fucking stupid.   :rolleyes:
In other words you don't question those things you just believe what you're told.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on April 07, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
In other words you don't question those things you just believe what you're told.

Question what?  Your claims about things like the stock market not going up until after the election?  When Obama took office in 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial average was 7,949.  In October of 2016, before the election, it was 18,161.  That's more than double.

I can refute every other bullshit claim you make but why waste my time on a delusional psychopath?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on April 07, 2017, 12:48:10 PM
Question what?  Your claims about things like the stock market not going up until after the election?  When Obama took office in 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial average was 7,949.  In October of 2016, before the election, it was 18,161.  That's more than double.

I can refute every other bullshit claim you make but why waste my time on a delusional psychopath?
I'm talking about when he left office, when he took office has nothing to do with it now.
Trump 2020