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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on August 16, 2010, 06:24:19 PM
It is NOT Muslims committing these acts of terror, it is extremists. That's the problem you are having, you are persecuting all for the actions of the few.

Plus, one really can't call oneself an American and a defender of human rights while at the same time rallying against a certain religious group building whatever they want on property they obviously own. 

If Sarah Palin, Charlie Krauthammer, et. al. don't want the mosque/religious center there, here's a clue for them.  Pool their money, buy the property from whomever currently owns it, and they can build whatever they want on it.  It's that simple.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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followsthewolf

That's a laugher.

Doing that, even though it would precisely accomplish the outcome that they are braying about, will NOT accomplish their broader agenda........screaming about being a better xtian, better 'murrican, better patriot than you, you despicable defender of the Constitutional right to freedom of religion.

Wait.....wait....must be that "freedom of religion" means you've got the right to believe anything that you want.....so long as I approve of your choice.

Yeah....yeah.....that's the ticket. I'll defend your right to believe what I believe.

Otherwise you're a miserable infidel.......whoa.....wait a minute.....wrong term....er....ah....yer not as good a xtian as I am.

THAT'S what I really meant to say.

I think.
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Palehorse

Quote from: followsthewolf on August 16, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
That's a laugher.

Doing that, even though it would precisely accomplish the outcome that they are braying about, will NOT accomplish their broader agenda........screaming about being a better xtian, better 'murrican, better patriot than you, you despicable defender of the Constitutional right to freedom of religion.

Wait.....wait....must be that "freedom of religion" means you've got the right to believe anything that you want.....so long as I approve of your choice.

Yeah....yeah.....that's the ticket. I'll defend your right to believe what I believe.

Otherwise you're a miserable infidel.......whoa.....wait a minute.....wrong term....er....ah....yer not as good a xtian as I am.

THAT'S what I really meant to say.

I think.
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LOsborne

Quote from: Locutus on August 16, 2010, 06:47:10 PM
If Sarah Palin, Charlie Krauthammer, et. al. don't want the mosque/religious center there, here's a clue for them.  Pool their money, buy the property from whomever currently owns it, and they can build whatever they want on it.  It's that simple.

DAMNED WELL TOLD!!

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on August 16, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
McVeigh was a nutjob working alone extreme Muslims are an organization of many and yes, they are worse than McVeigh.  McVeigh was getting even with the government for a supposed wrong done him if I recall correctly....extreme Muslims want to be your government and ruler plus there are a whole lot more of them than two. 
What you're saying is like saying a guy who goes off his rocker because he gets fired from a job and goes in and shoots up his former place of employment is the same as an extreme Muslim.  Remember the phrase "going postal?"

Besides the fact that McVey was deeply influenced by religion, he isn't the only one who has terrorized in the name of religion Christian or otherwise. So what if he's was working alone, does that make him less than an extremist?


My point is that there IS a difference between Muslims and extremists who happen to be Muslim, just as there is a difference between Christians and those who happen to be extremists. A little white church on the corner no more represents extreme Christians than a mosque represents extreme Muslims.
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Palehorse on August 16, 2010, 06:24:19 PM
It is NOT Muslims committing these acts of terror, it is extremists. That's the problem you are having, you are persecuting all for the actions of the few.

It's amazing that they can't see their own double-standard.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

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Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 16, 2010, 09:01:52 PM
It's amazing that they can't see their own double-standard.

  It's no wonder, they got they got their head up their ass.

Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

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me

Quote from: The Troll on August 16, 2010, 06:28:54 PM
  I heard all of the reason about being for or against the building of a mosque in New York.  But it boils down to one thing.  It in the Constitution, it's call freedom of religion and the separation of church and state.  It's the law that they can build the mosque.

  But I really think all of this is being driven by the Republican Dirty Tricks Team.  They have wore out the gay marriage thing.  They have worn out the abortion thing.  So they are working of the illegal alien thing and the Muslim thing and the mosque thing.

  I predict that the news cycle will be over after this weekend.  I don't think this thing will hold water that long.

  It give me a pain in the ass all about the sensibilities.  The worshiping of the poor survivors of 9/11.  It happened, get over it, get on with your life.  Every day people die and and their survivors morn and  life goes on, really what so special about the poor victims of 9\11 other than they did not have any choice in how they died.

  For the Muslims to build in NYC is nothing like what the banksters and stock marketeers were saying,  "What we did in the housing market may have be morally wrong, misguided, not Kosher, unfair and shady, but it wasn't illegal.

  But for these cry baby people to try to get the government to pressure the Muslims not to build is totally stupid.  At least they will put some people to work building it.  I can't see what the Muslim are doing is wrong, illegal, immoral and it's differently not against the Constitution.

The Troll  :4th3:
Just in case you haven't been paying attention Troll there are Dems against it too it isn't a political thing in the least no matter how you want to spin it. 
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on August 16, 2010, 10:05:28 PM
Just in case you haven't been paying attention Troll there are Dems against it too it isn't a political thing in the least no matter how you want to spin it.

  I don't care who the hell against it.  What you and the other assholes are doing is against The Constitution of The United States of America.  And you agree with this.  What a shame.  What an American.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on August 16, 2010, 10:36:40 PM
And it most certainly is a political thing.  :wink:
I haven't seen anything political about it.  There are people from both parties against it so how could it be entirely political?
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Locutus

I'll refer you to FTW's post above for your initial answer to that question.

All of these people (politicians anyway) who are now criticizing Obama for the stance he took are doing so for political reasons and none other.  If they weren't political, they would be supporting him for upholding the oath that he took when he entered office.   Remember this?

"I Barack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear, that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God."

:wink:

He's upholding the oath that he took when he entered office.  Coming out against the mosque kinda' smacks up against that oath a bit, doesn't it? 

But those who are against him will use this over and over again to political advantage during the upcoming election season.  Like I said, it's most certainly a political issue. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll


        :ghost:  The ghost of George H Bush :ghost:

  The General Motors Stamping Plant is being closed and the end of 2011.  I wonder if it is going to the new Mexican plants GM has built or in the process of building.  Isn't NAFTA great.  Brought to you by the Republican Party and their Predatory Capitalist Friends. 

  Isn't it wonderful Mexico is getting all of our jobs and then send us their trash.  Thank you Republicans and The Bushes.  Both of the idiot bastards.