Anti-terror funding cuts:

[followsthewolf]

Kris Kristofferson --

"Silver-tongued Devil"

[Palehorse]

http://www.youtube.com/v/GdVMvYj0HAs

[followsthewolf]

 

[The Troll]

Well, it couldn't be your subtle and charming forum personlity turning her off

  Look when I came into this forum, I well remember the nice Little comments like, well the Troll won't be around very long.  Because we are a very close nit group of friends.  You had one problem, everything I got in my life was gotten by me.  I did have two very nice men, who have passed, who stepped in and save me and my job.  I'm use to some people trying to stand on my throat, to keep me from getting up and some of the people on this forum are small potatoes when it come to cutting someone's ass and back stabbing these pro's did.  I still have the scares from it, in my mind.  I hate bullies and backstabbers.

  But as I remember, "ME" and I was in our usual fist fight and I think old Lolly thought I was getting the best of "ME" and she stuck in her and said she wanted to pee on my grave. 

  Well, never to pass up a challenge, I did go overboard with laughter and making fun, she must have got her panties bunched up.  So sorry Lolly. 

  Read me or not, it won't change a thing for me or you.  You will miss a good fight, you just got to bend with the blows.  The Troll  Trying to be charming. 

[me]

You keep talking about "fighting" like that's what you want.  I'm not here to "fight" with anyone I just don't happen to have the same point of view that most have and try to discuss.  Yes, I do ask questions from time to time that no one seems to get the gist of but they are asked for a reason and usually no one comes up with a sensible answer but just more of the same.  No one on here is an idiot we just have different views of things so what purpose does it serve, and yes, I've done it a few times myself, to call someone stupid, and idiot, or any other name for that matter?

Back on track the way I look at it a funding cut is a funding cut even if they are still getting more than last year.  To add insult to injury he has a $30k a plate fund raising dinner expecting the very people he's raking over the coals to donate to his campaign fund in that same city he just cut the funding for. 

[Palehorse]

From the COA report (link provided previously):
. . .

Transportation Security Administration (TSA): $7.7 billion, $678.7 million above 2009, excluding stimulus funding. Funding includes:. . .

. . .

Homeland Security Grants: $4.17 billion, nearly $300 million above the request, for grants to first responders and partners in homeland security, including:
•   State Grants: $950 million, matching the request and 2009, for grants used to plan, equip and train local first responders to respond to terrorist attacks and catastrophic incidents, including $60 million for Operation Stonegarden.
•   Urban Area Security Grants: $887 million, matching the request and $50 million above 2009, to help high-risk urban communities prevent, respond to, and recover from terrorist attacks.
•   Rail/Transit Security Grants: $300 million, $50 million above the request, to protect critical transit infrastructure, including freight rail, Amtrak and ferry systems in high-threat areas.
•   Port Security Grants: $300 million, $50 million above the request, to assist ports in enhancing maritime domain awareness and enhancing risk management capabilities to prevent, detect, and respond to terrorist attacks.
•   Emergency Management Performance Grants: $340 million, $25 million above the request and 2009, for all-hazard grants for state and local emergency managers.
•   Fire Grants (including SAFER): $810 million, $220 million above the request and $35 million above 2009, to help local fire departments address communication, equipment and staffing problems. Of this total, $420 million is for SAFER, as requested, and $390 million is for fire grants.
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•   Metropolitan Medical Response System: $41 million, $1 million above the request, to help high- threat communities respond to mass casualty incidents.
•   Interoperable Communications: $50 million, matching the request and 2009, for help firefighters and emergency responders talk to each other during a crisis.
•   Emergency Operations Centers: $60 million, $25 million above 2009, to equip and upgrade central command facilities used by emergency personnel during disasters. . .

Again I will say this; the POTUS does not distribute the funds nor identify who gets what and who does not, the Department of Homeland Security does. This is their baby and their system of distribution based upon their rating system.

If anyone should be taking heat over this it should be Janet Napolitano, who is US Secretary of Homeland Security, and even then the root cause for this issue is the DHS's rating system which she inherited. It has been a problem each time the department does their re-evaluations in prep for budgetary requests, and each time NYC has had their funding reduced they have squawked long and hard.

Funny how we didn't hear any of you squawking in 2006 or 2007 when NYC was saying virtually the very same things. Why didn't you lambaste the Shrub when the DHS cut NYC's funding by 40% overall or more????

[me]

Again I will say this; the POTUS does not distribute the funds nor identify who gets what and who does not, the Department of Homeland Security does. This is their baby and their system of distribution based upon their rating system.

If anyone should be taking heat over this it should be Janet Napolitano, who is US Secretary of Homeland Security, and even then the root cause for this issue is the DHS's rating system which she inherited. It has been a problem each time the department does their re-evaluations in prep for budgetary requests, and each time NYC has had their funding reduced they have squawked long and hard.

Let's see, everything that went wrong or people didn't agree with during Bush's presidency was his fault but everything that goes wrong or people disagree with now is someone elses fault even though the things may be similar.    Neither here nor there just a thought to ponder is all. 

[followsthewolf]

  Look when I came into this forum, I well remember the nice Little comments like, well the Troll won't be around very long.  Because we are a very close nit group of friends.  You had one problem, everything I got in my life was gotten by me.  I did have two very nice men, who have passed, who stepped in and save me and my job.  I'm use to some people trying to stand on my throat, to keep me from getting up and some of the people on this forum are small potatoes when it come to cutting someone's ass and back stabbing these pro's did.  I still have the scares from it, in my mind.  I hate bullies and backstabbers.

  But as I remember, "ME" and I was in our usual fist fight and I think old Lolly thought I was getting the best of "ME" and she stuck in her and said she wanted to pee on my grave. 

  Well, never to pass up a challenge, I did go overboard with laughter and making fun, she must have got her panties bunched up.  So sorry Lolly. 

  Read me or not, it won't change a thing for me or you.  You will miss a good fight, you just got to bend with the blows.  The Troll  Trying to be charming. 

Thanks for that.

You have had a tough life.

You are a tough guy.

Nobody has had as tough a life as you have had.

That help??

[The Troll]

Let's see, everything that went wrong or people didn't agree with during Bush's presidency was his fault but everything that goes wrong or people disagree with now is someone elses fault even though the things may be similar.    Neither here nor there just a thought to ponder is all.

  To quote your most godly president, Reagan,  "There you go again" We really don't blame George W.. He wasn't smart enough to think up all of the cons the predatory capitalist dreamed up.   He was the hand puppet for the Republican Party and the Neocons and the military complex and the lobbyist.

   Old George couldn't hardly put two words together and was the most stupidest president we ever had.  Prick Cheney ran the government and George W. walked in lock step with him. 

  He told us that God told him to run for president.  He ran, He won and it was given to him by the Supreme Court.  So I guess he will have to take the heat for all of the Charley Foxtrots that happen during the eight years he was in.  Remember?  You voted for him twice.  What a wonderful thing to have on your record of life.       ME Troll   

[LOsborne]

...the way I look at it a funding cut is a funding cut even if they are still getting more than last year.  ... 

Whoa. Ya lost me. If they are getting more than last year, how is it a "funding cut"? More than last year is a funding increase not a funding cut.

[The Troll]

Thanks for that.

You have had a tough life.

You are a tough guy.

Nobody has had as tough a life as you have had.

That help??

  :???:     :???:   :???:                     Nice try,  Mister 

[The Troll]

You keep talking about "fighting" like that's what you want.  I'm not here to "fight" with anyone I just don't happen to have the same point of view that most have and try to discuss.  Yes, I do ask questions from time to time that no one seems to get the gist of but they are asked for a reason and usually no one comes up with a sensible answer but just more of the same.  No one on here is an idiot we just have different views of things so what purpose does it serve, and yes, I've done it a few times myself, to call someone stupid, and idiot, or any other name for that matter?

Back on track the way I look at it a funding cut is a funding cut even if they are still getting more than last year.  To add insult to injury he has a $30k a plate fund raising dinner expecting the very people he's raking over the coals to donate to his campaign fund in that same city he just cut the funding for.

  I sure like that first sentence, "I'm not here to fight".  Oh, yes you are.  You fight with everybody here in this forum but the Hawk.  I like to refere to you guys as the twins.  Never have seen a man and a woman some much alike in their thinking.  Are you sure you guys weren't twins and split at birth. 

  You cry about Obama having a $30k a plate fund raiser.  Did you forget about George W. and his $100K a plate fund raiser in Texas.  It seems there was a lot of oil men there.  They got to have their picture taken with him and they were placed on some high roller Republican team.  I can't remember it's name.  It seems like you had to be a millionaire to get on it.

   It sorta seem funny, that Old Prick Cheney can have oil corporation CEO's come to the White House and we can't find out who it was.  George W. can $100K fund raisers in Texas and George 42 can go over to Saudia Arabia and get $3 million for a 45 minute speech.

  Boy oh boy do these oil people take care of  you Republican.  Right now, in Washington DC, you can see how much the Republican Congress has been bought and owned buy the oil companies  They are trying to stop every regulation that would get the polluting oil companies under control. 

  Then to top it all off, old George W. OKs BP drilling a oil well in the Gulf in 5000 ft of water and he believes everything they tell him.  "IT'S OK, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING AND IT WILL BE SAFE."

[me]

Read what I wrote again Troll.  I was not, I repeat not, objecting to the $30k per plate fund raiser I was saying he was having a fund raiser and asking that of people he was raking over the coals.  You have to admit that takes balls and huge ones at that. 

  I sure like that first sentence, "I'm not here to fight".  Oh, yes you are.  You fight with everybody here in this forum but the Hawk.  I like to refere to you guys as the twins.  Never have seen a man and a woman some much alike in their thinking.  Are you sure you guys weren't twins and split at birth. 

  You cry about Obama having a $30k a plate fund raiser.  Did you forget about George W. and his $100K a plate fund raiser in Texas.  It seems there was a lot of oil men there.  They got to have their picture taken with him and they were placed on some high roller Republican team.  I can't remember it's name.  It seems like you had to be a millionaire to get on it.

   It sorta seem funny, that Old Prick Cheney can have oil corporation CEO's come to the White House and we can't find out who it was.  George W. can $100K fund raisers in Texas and George 42 can go over to Saudia Arabia and get $3 million for a 45 minute speech.

  Boy oh boy do these oil people take care of  you Republican.  Right now, in Washington DC, you can see how much the Republican Congress has been bought and owned buy the oil companies  They are trying to stop every regulation that would get the polluting oil companies under control. 

  Then to top it all off, old George W. OKs BP drilling a oil well in the Gulf in 5000 ft of water and he believes everything they tell him.  "IT'S OK, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING AND IT WILL BE SAFE."