Democrats SUCK!!

[Locutus]

Actions she took in defending him. She attacked the character of the child.  You are not going to find corporate media who gives to the Clinton campaign giving voice to this victim.

You can defend a rapist without making the child look like a hooker.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughing-knew-guilty.html

BTW, Locutus..thanks for reading and comprehending...it makes a YUGE difference in discussions....

Actually, when I first read up on this, it was expert witnesses, including an expert in child psychology, that had said that about the child and not HRC herself.  I'll see if I can find it, but I saw an affidavit that stated that almost exactly at one point. 

And stop using the word "YUGE!"  It makes me think too much of The Orange Man. 

[Locutus]

It's not about the the office of public defender...it's that she chose to attack the 12 year old girl in a vicious manner...THAT she chose to do.

Here are the court documents.  On page 34 of this document is an affidavit, with Hillary Rodham as the sworn affiant.  Paragraphs 4 and 5 are germane, and in them, she swears the following:

4.  "I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing.  I have also been informed....

5. "I have also been told by an expert in child psychology...."



https://www.scribd.com/doc/229667084/State-of-Arkansas-V-Thomas-Alfred-Taylor

It doesn't appear to me that she acted in the manner in which you're trying to portray Cookie.  She's not doing anything here that wouldn't be legally required of her to do as public defender in a case like this.

[Locutus]

All that being said, I'm not trying to diminish what happened to the girl.  Being raped at age 12, and then having to sit through a trial about it is horrific.  However, let's not besmirch HRC for doing what she was legally required to do at the time.  That's simply unfair. 

[AbbyTC]

Here are the court documents.  On page 34 of this document is an affidavit, with Hillary Rodham as the sworn affiant.  Paragraphs 4 and 5 are germane, and in them, she swears the following:

4.  "I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing.  I have also been informed....

5. "I have also been told by an expert in child psychology...."



https://www.scribd.com/doc/229667084/State-of-Arkansas-V-Thomas-Alfred-Taylor

It doesn't appear to me that she acted in the manner in which you're trying to portray Cookie.  She's not doing anything here that wouldn't be legally required of her to do as public defender in a case like this.

You beat me to it, Locutus.  My library skills kicked in and you posted this right after I found the exact same site. 

All that being said, I'm not trying to diminish what happened to the girl.  Being raped at age 12, and then having to sit through a trial about it is horrific.  However, let's not besmirch HRC for doing what she was legally required to do at the time.  That's simply unfair. 

Of course you aren't.  Being raped or sexually assaulted any age is horrifying, more so for a young child. 

But before people point fingers at Hillary, I really wish they would fact check what they are accusing her of.  Especially since she didn't even want to take this case. 

[Purplelady1040]

All that being said, I'm not trying to diminish what happened to the girl.  Being raped at age 12, and then having to sit through a trial about it is horrific.  However, let's not besmirch HRC for doing what she was legally required to do at the time.  That's simply unfair.

No, you aren't diminishing it at all just stating the facts and it was a horrorific case.  I read where Hillary didn't even want to take the case but had no choice.

[parkerdivine]

Here are the court documents.  On page 34 of this document is an affidavit, with Hillary Rodham as the sworn affiant.  Paragraphs 4 and 5 are germane, and in them, she swears the following:

4.  "I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing.  I have also been informed....

5. "I have also been told by an expert in child psychology...."



https://www.scribd.com/doc/229667084/State-of-Arkansas-V-Thomas-Alfred-Taylor

It doesn't appear to me that she acted in the manner in which you're trying to portray Cookie.  She's not doing anything here that wouldn't be legally required of her to do as public defender in a case like this.

Are you trying to tell me that the older, MUCH OLDER, man should have gotten off because a CHILD was mentally imbalanced when it came to sexual attitudes?   That the man had EVERY right to rape this girl because he was drunk and she like it?  come on.   You're doing a poor job of defending Clinton if this is what you are pushing. Sounds like something out of the "Rich men can grope a [child's] genitals anytime they want" Trump attack.

What manner am I trying to portray Clinton? She pretends to be for children but helped Bill abolish the Welfare system whereby poor children had health care insurance, as did their mothers.  Kennedy and a republican got health care for the children, but single moms not so much.  So children got health care and women didn't. 

Sorry, but Clinton easily portrays herself as hypocritical.  To use a psychologist whose "expert" opinion is this girl craved sex with older men while being 12 years old so that excuses the adult male is just the type of lame excuse she is always given a green light on.

Thanks for the link.

[parkerdivine]

You beat me to it, Locutus.  My library skills kicked in and you posted this right after I found the exact same site. 

Of course you aren't.  Being raped or sexually assaulted any age is horrifying, more so for a young child. 

But before people point fingers at Hillary, I really wish they would fact check what they are accusing her of.  Especially since she didn't even want to take this case.

The psychologist was one appointed by Clinton.  It was some unbiased person.  And trying to get a man off rape because her psychologist said the girl was "fantasizing" about men is about as anit-feminine as you can get.  It's like the old "She was asking for it because she was wearing a skirt."   

I haven't wrongly accused clinton of anything.  I just pointed out her hypocrisy in attacking this child who was raped by making the defense the typical male "she was asking for it.."

[parkerdivine]

All that being said, I'm not trying to diminish what happened to the girl.  Being raped at age 12, and then having to sit through a trial about it is horrific.  However, let's not besmirch HRC for doing what she was legally required to do at the time.  That's simply unfair.

Again, how have I besmirched clinton for defending the man? She claims she is pro child and yet used the old "she was asking for it" male defense she takes exception to with Donald to defend the rapist of a 12 year old girl.  Clinton pretty much besmirches herself.

[AbbyTC]

Are you trying to tell me that the older, MUCH OLDER, man should have gotten off because a CHILD was mentally imbalanced when it came to sexual attitudes?   That the man had EVERY right to rape this girl because he was drunk and she like it?  come on.   You're doing a poor job of defending Clinton if this is what you are pushing. Sounds like something out of the "Rich men can grope a [child's] genitals anytime they want" Trump attack.

OMG!   Locutus never even implied the guy should have gotten off.   He was answering your question.   Don't you remember what you said?

Actions she took in defending him. She attacked the character of the child.  You are not going to find corporate media who gives to the Clinton campaign giving voice to this victim.

You can defend a rapist without making the child look like a hooker.

The psychologist was one appointed by Clinton.  It was some unbiased person.  And trying to get a man off rape because her psychologist said the girl was "fantasizing" about men is about as anit-feminine as you can get.  It's like the old "She was asking for it because she was wearing a skirt."   

I haven't wrongly accused clinton of anything.  I just pointed out her hypocrisy in attacking this child who was raped by making the defense the typical male "she was asking for it.."

She was doing her job.  A job that she didn't want.  Anyone in her position would have done the same thing.

[The Troll]

  There is nothing that will change you mind about hating her and you will find her guilty of everything.    I find you stupid and  a fool and there is nothing anyone can do about that.     


        SO!

[Locutus]

Are you trying to tell me that the older, MUCH OLDER, man should have gotten off because a CHILD was mentally imbalanced when it came to sexual attitudes?   That the man had EVERY right to rape this girl because he was drunk and she like it?  come on.   You're doing a poor job of defending Clinton if this is what you are pushing. Sounds like something out of the "Rich men can grope a [child's] genitals anytime they want" Trump attack.

I'm not saying that at all.  All I'm saying is that's how our system of justice was designed.  I like to feel that most of the time, it works as intended.  All public defenders and defense lawyers are legally required to act on the behalf of their clients to the best of their abilities.  There are serious ramifications if they don't.

Does the system always work as we all would like?  Obviously not. 

Many people were upset that George Zimmerman was acquitted of killing Treyvon Martin, that Casey Anthony was acquitted of killing her baby girl, and that OJ Simpson was acquitted of killing his wife and Ronald Goldman.

Despite the above, I think the system works as intended most of the time.

What manner am I trying to portray Clinton? She pretends to be for children but helped Bill abolish the Welfare system whereby poor children had health care insurance, as did their mothers.  Kennedy and a republican got health care for the children, but single moms not so much.  So children got health care and women didn't. 

I'm just addressing your portrayal of her in this case.  She wasn't a monster defense attorney who was attempting to get this rapist off at all costs.  She was a public defender, who was assigned the case against her wishes by a judge, who was doing what she was legally required to do on the defendants behalf.  Nothing more; nothing less. 

Sorry, but Clinton easily portrays herself as hypocritical.  To use a psychologist whose "expert" opinion is this girl craved sex with older men while being 12 years old so that excuses the adult male is just the type of lame excuse she is always given a green light on.

Thanks for the link.

Again, she was only doing what she was legally required to do.  As others noted, she didn't want the case to begin with.

You're welcome for the link. 

[Locutus]

Again, how have I besmirched clinton for defending the man? She claims she is pro child and yet used the old "she was asking for it" male defense she takes exception to with Donald to defend the rapist of a 12 year old girl.  Clinton pretty much besmirches herself.

See above.  She was doing what she was legally required to do.  It's how our whole system of justice works; for better and for worse. 

[The Troll]

See above.  She was doing what she was legally required to do.  It's how our whole system of justice works; for better and for worse.

                                                  Locutus, you just casting your jewels to the

[parkerdivine]

See above.  She was doing what she was legally required to do.  It's how our whole system of justice works; for better and for worse.

But that's not an excuse.  She could have gone any way she wanted with it. She claims she has fought for children and women her whole life.  What she did in making a 12 year old girl into a whore was not something she HAD to do.  She CHOSE to do it.

If she wants to lay claim she has ALWAYS fought for children, she needs to make this disclaimer which she did not.

If she gets to walk on this, Trump walks on his allegations cuz according to Clinton, the child was probably asking for it.

[Locutus]

Well, like it or not, that happens every day in courtrooms all across this country.  For better; for worse.

I'm not sure I would change the way it works.  Would you?