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Started by Henry Hawk, May 03, 2010, 08:39:50 AM

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The Troll

Quote from: me on June 20, 2012, 01:33:04 PM
If ya'll could blame Bush for everything that went on during his administration then turn about is fair play.  He has done nothing to stop it and he could reign them in if he chose to do so.  Hell he just did something a few short months ago he said he didn't have the power to do so why can't he call off the dogs on some of this other stuff?

  :me:  this is short and simple.  It won't take much of your important time.  Name me 6, a half a dozen things that George W. did that was a benefit to and for the American people, I mean the common ordinary men and women and children.

  :haha:  :haha:  Can you do it without straining to much.   :wink: :rolleyes: :biggrin:

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 20, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
it was ALWAYS and issue, no matter WHO used it. This one is no different, he is protecting Holder for a reason.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 20, 2012, 03:30:31 PM
Really?  I don't recall seeing any of you bitch when Bush used it...several times.

Quote from: Locutus on June 20, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
Six times to be exact.

Damn. I saw this one coming about ten miles away and I was ready for it. But no need now. You guys called it spot on. . .

To quote another poster here, "the republican dirty tricks team" will beat this one into the ground until it comes out on the other side of the world!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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me

The thing about ya'll wanting to take this back to being Bush's fault is if it were something like that they wouldn't waste any time getting those documents out there but for some reason, and it wouldn't be national security, they don't want them out.  Plus they found out Holder knew about earlier than he first testified which means he like to them. 
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

That is the EXACT response I KNEW for FACT on how they would respond.  :yes:

They claim to be politically honest, but despite a very, very OBVIOUS coverup.....it is STILL just the republicans fault, or Bush's fault or anything other than the fact, the POTUS is covering up something.  Either himself or Holder, or both.  The fact is people died, and the truth needs to come out.  IF, they did nothing wrong, then it should be no big deal to prove.

I'm also sick and tired of the term "party of no".........that is another massive talking point the left has been trained to say.  Trying to make Obama a one term POTUS?  Well, duh!  The democrats tried very, very hard to make Bush a one-term POTUS.  The repubs tried very hard to make Clinton a one-term POTUS.   The dems tried very, very hoard to make Reagan a one-term POTUS. 

The difference is, those who were great leaders were successful!  The dems tried VERY hare NOT to pass Reagans bills, but Reagan went to the public and sold them the idea behind his bills, and put pressure on congress to pass it.
Clinton, knew how to get what he wanted done....he did NOT make excuses or whine...he worked with Newt to pass bills to make America better.
Obama does not have that style of leadership.

Obama is not only a bad leader, but may be a corrupt one at that.

You guys are the ones demanding honesty all the time.
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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 21, 2012, 08:29:36 AM


  Why show a picture of Nixon, he one of the few Republican presidents that did something good the the American people, eventho he was a crook.   :biggrin:

  C'mon Skippy give us and me 6 good things that George W. did for the American people.  I waiting, but I'm not holding my breath.   :rolleyes:

Henry Hawk

Lets not change the subject at hane....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 21, 2012, 01:19:42 AM
...but for some reason, and it wouldn't be national security...

How in the fuck could you possibly know that?  Oh, wait...he's black so he must have had some nefarious intent.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on June 21, 2012, 09:22:17 AM
How in the fuck could you possibly know that?  Oh, wait...he's black so he must have had some nefarious intent.

:yes:
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 21, 2012, 08:16:36 AM
That is the EXACT response I KNEW for FACT on how they would respond.  :yes:

They claim to be politically honest, but despite a very, very OBVIOUS coverup.....it is STILL just the republicans fault, or Bush's fault or anything other than the fact, the POTUS is covering up something.  Either himself or Holder, or both.  The fact is people died, and the truth needs to come out.  IF, they did nothing wrong, then it should be no big deal to prove.

I'm also sick and tired of the term "party of no".........that is another massive talking point the left has been trained to say.  Trying to make Obama a one term POTUS?  Well, duh!  The democrats tried very, very hard to make Bush a one-term POTUS.  The repubs tried very hard to make Clinton a one-term POTUS.   The dems tried very, very hoard to make Reagan a one-term POTUS. 

The difference is, those who were great leaders were successful!  The dems tried VERY hare NOT to pass Reagans bills, but Reagan went to the public and sold them the idea behind his bills, and put pressure on congress to pass it.
Clinton, knew how to get what he wanted done....he did NOT make excuses or whine...he worked with Newt to pass bills to make America better.
Obama does not have that style of leadership.

Obama is not only a bad leader, but may be a corrupt one at that.

You guys are the ones demanding honesty all the time.

  C'mon Skippy, prove that Obama is corrupt.  During the George W. administration, old prick Cheney cut deals with the oil companies CEOs, with his company Halliburton the corruption was unbelievable.  Charging the military $45 a gallon for diesel fuel.  Bad construction, like wiring showers that electrocuted one of our young soldier showers in Iraq, trying to wash the dirt of an illegal George w. war.  War crimes, water boarding.  Doing away with Habeas Corpus for American citizens.  Illegal wiretapping.  Corruption at it's highest and finest.  George W. Bush and Richard Cheney and you don't remember a thing about it.  :doh:

  And you got the balls to call Obama corrupt.  You really got a bad memory or you're just plain stupid.  Which is it Chicken Hawk.   :confused:

Palehorse

Anybody else notice that the repugnicans keep dredging up anything and everything that they can spin into propaganda while offering absolutely nothing surrounding  positive plans that address the real issues that are plaguing this country and its citizens?

Everything that they have presented does nothing but pander to the wealthy and corporations. Everything.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 21, 2012, 11:55:56 AM
And you got the balls to call Obama corrupt.  You really got a bad memory or you're just plain stupid.  Which is it Chicken Hawk.   :confused:

the bottom line is either Holder is guilty of something or Obama is guilty of something.  People died.  This is not something that needs to be swept away.  The truth needs to come out. 

Bush is not POTUS no more, btw.   He is water under the bridge. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 21, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
the bottom line is either Holder is guilty of something or Obama is guilty of something.  People died.  This is not something that needs to be swept away.  The truth needs to come out. 

Bush is not POTUS no more, btw.   He is water under the bridge.

So national security plays no role what so ever eh? The fact is in this case the POTUS is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. If he did not invoke executive privilege and let all of the information out, then conservatives would be raking him over the coals and spewing about national security, state secrets, etc.; and likely pointing the finger at the POTUS himself surrounding the escape of state secrets over the last 4 years. . .

The POTUS is doing the right thing in acting in the best interests of national security. Just as many have done before him. You don't have to like it. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Since the Reagan administration, executive privilege has been invoked 25 times: three times by Reagan, one time by the first President George H.W. Bush, 14 times by President Clinton, six times by George W. Bush, and now once by POTUS Obama.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 21, 2012, 01:00:22 PM
The POTUS is doing the right thing in acting in the best interests of national security. Just as many have done before him. You don't have to like it. . .

You are totally "assuming" this.  Issa has been investigating this for over a year and a half.  Holder has been playing games, and has been caught in a lie.  Obam is either part of it or not.  It is PURELY a political move on his behalf.  I suspect he would like to see this go away until AFTER the election.

Nothing more than stall tactics, that is going to bite him in the ass.  I think, he should have fired Holder and moved on or better yet, if Holder had some integrity about him or his boss, he would resign. 

and YES, I too am "assuming"....based upon the news as it unfolds.

I don't care about him using the EP, but there has GOT to be a motive behind it.  Just as othe POTUS did.  Bush did it to cover up, Clinton did it 14 times to cover up, and Reagan did like wise.

If there is a National Security reason, then he needs to inform exactly to the Oversight Committee who are doing their job.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW