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Started by Henry Hawk, May 03, 2010, 08:39:50 AM

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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2014, 09:43:49 AM
Maybe I should have said, despite his economic recovery, the hoosier GOP leadership has managed to improve it status during these turbulent times... ;) :yes:

Interesting ... yet three of the top five states on your "best of" list have Democratic governors.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on September 05, 2014, 10:49:09 AM
Interesting ... yet three of the top five states on your "best of" list have Democratic governors.

Since your counting.....12 of the top 20 states are Republican governors and 4 out the last five are Democratic governors......just sayin.

1.
Washington - DEM
2.
Texas - REP
3.
Minnesota - DEM
4.
Colorado - DEM
5.
Utah - REP
6.
North Dakota - REP
7.
Virginia – DEM
8.
Nevada - REP
9.
Oklahoma – REP
10.
Nebraska - REP
11.
Illinois - DEM
12.
Delaware - DEM
13.
Georgia – REP
14.
Maryland - DEM
15.
Iowa - REP
16.
Arizona - REP
17.
Wyoming - REP
18.
Massachusetts - DEM
19.
Kansas - REP
20.
Indiana - REP

46.
Connecticut - DEM
47.
Rhode Island - DEM
48.
Mississippi - REP
49.
New York – DEM
50.
Hawaii - DEM
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2014, 11:19:36 AM
Since your counting.....12 of the top 20 states are Republican governors and 4 out the last five are Democratic governors......just sayin.


Since you're keeping score, the very best state has a Democratic governor.

Can't you see how silly this all is?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

It was silly the last time we did it, too!   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2014, 08:26:49 AM
I am NOT Cherry picking anything:

Here are all 50 U.S. states as ranked by their working conditions in the 2014 MoneyRates.com analysis:
These rankings are based on each state's Compensation and Quality Factor, a proprietary metric based on these factors in each area:

       
  • Average salary, according to figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
  • Cost of living, based on data from C2ER.
  • Employment rate, based on BLS data.
  • Workplace conditions, based on the "Work Environment" component of the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index.

1.Washington
2.Texas
3.Minnesota
4.Colorado
5.Utah
6.North Dakota
7.Virginia
8.Nevada
9.Oklahoma
10.Nebraska
11.Illinois
12.Delaware
13.Georgia
14.Maryland
15.Iowa
16.Arizona
17.Wyoming
18.Massachusetts
19.Kansas
20.Indiana
21.Ohio
22.Montana
23.Tennessee
24.Wisconsin
25.North Carolina
26.South Dakota
27.Louisiana
28.Kentucky
29.California
30.New Hampshire
31.Vermont
32.Michigan
33.Florida
34.Idaho
35.Maine
36.Pennsylvania
37.West Virginia
38.Oregon
39.New Mexico
40.Missouri
41.South Carolina
42.New Jersey
43.Arkansas
44.Alabama
45.Alaska
46.Connecticut
47.Rhode Island
48.Mississippi
49.New York
50.Hawaii

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2014, 09:53:03 AM
Under Obama, only the richest 10 percent saw incomes rise

Contradicting yourself again eh?
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on September 05, 2014, 12:19:45 PM
Contradicting yourself again eh?

He doesn't understand how those things are connected.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

The problem is, YOU guys LOVE to jump to conclusions.  I completely understand.  I merely pointed out two different issues.  YOU tried to mix them together.  With a wonderful spin....

First I pointed out that Indiana is NOT a doom and gloom state, it is a state that is improving economically, every year due to conservative leadership.

Second, I pointed out that Under Obama, only the richest 10 percent saw incomes rise, something you guys said he would fix.  It seem like it is YOU who is contradicting yourself.... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2014, 04:02:54 PM
The problem is, YOU guys LOVE to jump to conclusions.  I completely understand.  I merely pointed out two different issues.  YOU tried to mix them together.  With a wonderful spin....

First I pointed out that Indiana is NOT a doom and gloom state, it is a state that is improving economically, every year due to conservative leadership.

Second, I pointed out that Under Obama, only the richest 10 percent saw incomes rise, something you guys said he would fix.  It seem like it is YOU who is contradicting yourself.... :yes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2014, 04:02:54 PM
The problem is, YOU guys LOVE to jump to conclusions.  I completely understand.  I merely pointed out two different issues.  YOU tried to mix them together.  With a wonderful spin....

First I pointed out that Indiana is NOT a doom and gloom state, it is a state that is improving economically, every year due to conservative leadership.

Second, I pointed out that Under Obama, only the richest 10 percent saw incomes rise, something you guys said he would fix.  It seem like it is YOU who is contradicting yourself.... :yes:

1. Your response to mine, pointing out the decline of the blue collar compensation and benefit levels, and correspondingly quality of life, attempted to insinuate it wasn't so based upon GDP numbers. I pointed out the fallacy of GDP as it relates to the average hourly wage level and benefits.

2. You respond with a post that points out, (what many on here have been telling you for quite some time), that the only people doing better are the wealthy.

1 + 2 = Contradicting yourself.

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on September 06, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
Again...wow!   :rolleyes:

  I feel really sorry for the boy (Henry), he's slow and out of touch and lacks good old common sense.  :trustme:  :grin2:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on September 05, 2014, 05:23:48 PM
1. Your response to mine, pointing out the decline of the blue collar compensation and benefit levels, and correspondingly quality of life, attempted to insinuate it wasn't so based upon GDP numbers. I pointed out the fallacy of GDP as it relates to the average hourly wage level and benefits.

2. You respond with a post that points out, (what many on here have been telling you for quite some time), that the only people doing better are the wealthy.

1 + 2 = Contradicting yourself.

No Palehorse, I pointed out simply,

1).  Indiana is NOT a doom and gloom state.  It has plenty going on, considering the sluggish economy set forth by the democrat leadership.  That GOP leadership seems to have a better grip on how to handle economic reality. 

2).  I pointed out though that the democrats have been saying for years that THEY are going to help improve the middle class, and yet they are striking out. Their policies are keeping the ones on the right from actually improving those in the middle class, by creating more stable and better paying jobs.  Look at the states that have optimistic economies........they are ones with GOP leadership.  Look at the ones with a struggling and extremely slugging economies.......they are ones with liberal leadership.

Below is a study done on the best run states.... the top five are all RED States.


1. North Dakota
> Debt per capita: $3,282 (22nd lowest)
> Budget deficit: None
> Unemployment: 3.5% (the lowest)
> Median household income: $51,704 (20th highest)
> Pct. below poverty line: 12.2% (13th lowest)


For the first time, North Dakota ranks as the best run state in the country. In recent years, North Dakota's oil boom has transformed its economy. Last year, crude oil production rose 35%. As of August, 2012, it was the second-largest oil producer in the country. This was due to the use of hydraulic fracturing in the state's Bakken shale formation. The oil and gas boom brought jobs to North Dakota, which had the nation's lowest unemployment rate in 2011 at 3.5%, and economic growth. Between 2010 and 2011, North Dakota's GDP jumped 7.6%, by far the largest increase in the nation. This growth has also increased home values, which rose a nation-leading 29% between 2006 and 2011. North Dakota and Montana are the only two states that have not reported a budget shortfall since fiscal 2009.


2. Wyoming
> Debt per capita: $2,694 (18th lowest)
> Budget deficit: 10.3% (32nd largest)
> Unemployment: 6.0% (7th lowest)
> Median household income: $56,322 (13th highest)
> Pct. below poverty line: 11.3% (6th lowest)

Wyoming is not the best-run state in the nation this year. The drop is largely due to the state's contracting economy. In 2011, GDP shrunk by 1.2%, more than any other state. As a whole, however, the state is a model of good management and a prospering population. The state is particularly efficient at managing its debt, owing the equivalent of just 20.4% of annual revenue in fiscal 2010. Wyoming also has a tax structure that, according to the Tax Foundation, is the nation's most-favorable for businesses — it does not have any corporate income taxes. The state has experienced an energy boom in recent years. The mining industry, which includes oil and gas extracting, accounted for 29.4% of the state's GDP in 2011 alone, more than in any other state. As of last year, Wyoming's poverty, home foreclosure, and unemployment rates were all among the lowest in the nation.



3. Nebraska
> Debt per capita: $1,279 (2nd lowest)
> Budget deficit: 9.7% (34th largest)
> Unemployment: 4.4% (2nd lowest)
> Median household income: $50,296 (22nd highest)
> Pct. below poverty line: 13.1% (tied-15th lowest)
Last year, Nebraska had the second-lowest unemployment rate in the nation at 4.4%. In Lincoln, the state capital, the unemployment rate was 4%, lower than all metropolitan areas in the country, except Bismarck and Fargo in North Dakota. Although far from the nation's wealthiest state — median income was slightly lower than the U.S. median of $50,502 — Nebraska's economy is strong relative to the rest of the U.S. The state is one of the leading agricultural producers, with the sector accounting for 8.3% of the state's GDP last year. The state also had the second-lowest debt per capita in the country in fiscal 2010, at $1,279, compared to an average of $3,614 for states nationwide.


4. Utah
> Debt per capita:
$2,356 (15th lowest)
> Budget deficit: 14.7% (25th largest)
> Unemployment: 6.7% (tied-11th lowest)
> Median household income: $55,869 (14th highest)
> Pct. below poverty line: 13.5% (tied-17th lowest)

In fiscal 2011, Utah had a budget deficit of $700 million, equal to 14.7% of the state's GDP. This debt-to-GDP ratio is worse than half the states in the U.S. Despite these problems, Utah has committed to reducing expenses in place of raising taxes or increasing debt. The state has also limited its borrowing. Its total debt was just under $6.5 billion in fiscal 2010, or $2,356 per capita — less than most states — and 40.4% of 2010 tax revenue. Both Moody's and S&P gave Utah their highest [font=inherit !important][size=inherit !important]
credit[/url][/size][/font] ratings because of the state's strong fiscal management. Moody's commented that Utah has a "tradition of conservative fiscal management; rebuilding of budgetary reserves after their use in the recession; [and] a closely managed debt portfolio."



5. Iowa
> Debt per capita: $1,690 (7th lowest)
> Budget deficit: 20.3% (18th largest)
> Unemployment: 5.9% (6th lowest)
> Median household income: $49,427 (24th highest)
> Pct. below poverty line: 12.8% (14th lowest)
Like many of the other well-run states, Iowa is one of the nation's top agricultural centers — the industry accounted for 6.6% of the state's GDP in 2011. The farm economy has contributed significantly to growth, with farm earnings rising rapidly and land values skyrocketing. State GDP rose by 1.9% between 2010 and 2011 — the 12th-highest increase in the country. Iowa's unemployment rate fell from 6.3% in 2010 to just 5.9% in 2011, the nation's sixth-lowest rate. The state has carried a low debt burden in recent years, averaging just $1,690 per capita in fiscal 2010, among the nation's lowest. The state currently has the best possible credit ratings both from Moody's and S&P.




"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW