Health Care Bill passed??

[pariann]

Did I read that correctly elsewhere?  And no one has anything to say about it over here?   I'm looking for my daily dose of both sides so I can form a better opinion of how I feel about it.

[Palehorse]

House passed it but now it has to run the gauntlet within the senate. And one senator at least has said of this bill's arrival; "Dead on arrival", which pretty much sums up where it is likely to go from there. . . 

[Bo D]

Here's a study with a pre-ordained outcome!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/15/AR2009111503159.html?hpid=topnews

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and an assortment of national business groups opposed to President Obama's health-care reform effort are collecting money to finance an economic study that could be used to portray the legislation as a job killer and threat to the nation's economy, according to an e-mail solicitation from a top Chamber official.

The e-mail, written by the Chamber's senior health policy manager and obtained by The Washington Post, proposes spending $50,000 to hire a "respected economist" to study the impact of health-care legislation, which is expected to come to the Senate floor this week, would have on jobs and the economy.

Step two, according to the e-mail, appears to assume the outcome of the economic review: "The economist will then circulate a sign-on letter to hundreds of other economists saying that the bill will kill jobs and hurt the economy. We will then be able to use this open letter to produce advertisements, and as a powerful lobbying and grass-roots document."

[Bo D]

I was reading this article this morning about a letter written in 1787 by George Washington urging ratification of the Constitution, and the parallels to the health care debate struck me.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/18/AR2009111803917.html

"If . . . the Union of the whole is a desirable object, the parts which compose it must yield a little in order to accomplish it," he writes.

He notes that the Constitution is not free of flaws. "These were not to be avoided," he writes. But he says the Constitution contains mechanisms through which it can be adjusted and is confident that future generations will do so wisely.

Isn't that what former President Clinton said recently about the health care bill?

The paragraphs near the end of the article were especially foreboding ....

In the letter, Washington assails critics of the Constitution.

They "would endeavor to give it an unfavourable complexion, with a view to biass the public mind," he writes. They seek to "rouse the apprehensions of the ignorant & unthinking . . . [with] objections . . . better calculated to alarm the fears, than to convince the judgement of their readers."

What goes around comes around.

[Exterminator]

[Bo D]

I was reading this article this morning about a letter written in 1787 by George Washington urging ratification of the Constitution, and the parallels to the health care debate struck me.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/18/AR2009111803917.html

"If . . . the Union of the whole is a desirable object, the parts which compose it must yield a little in order to accomplish it," he writes.

He notes that the Constitution is not free of flaws. "These were not to be avoided," he writes. But he says the Constitution contains mechanisms through which it can be adjusted and is confident that future generations will do so wisely.

Isn't that what former President Clinton said recently about the health care bill?

The paragraphs near the end of the article were especially foreboding ....

In the letter, Washington assails critics of the Constitution.

They "would endeavor to give it an unfavourable complexion, with a view to biass the public mind," he writes. They seek to "rouse the apprehensions of the ignorant & unthinking . . . [with] objections . . . better calculated to alarm the fears, than to convince the judgement of their readers."

What goes around comes around.

Guess I wasted my time on this, huh?

[Exterminator]

I found it interesting!   

[Locutus]

So did I.  The problem is that those who should find it interesting won't.

[Sandy Eggo]

and who would that be?

I should comment more when I enjoy reading something

[Henry Hawk]

So did I.  The problem is that those who should find it interesting won't.

fwiw....i find it very interesting...but not ready to say it is profound...

[Doc]

They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright.

[followsthewolf]

They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright.

I'd love to see anyone defend this statement.

[Palehorse]

They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright.

Wonder how you'd feel about this after your first stoning?

[Anne]

The laws are different from the punishment, but I think the world is more complex and the "laws" of the bible won't cover everything in todays world. Maybe we should just go with kindergaten rules: Play nice and share.

[followsthewolf]

Would that it were that simple.

There's always that nasty little brat who wants all the toys for him/her self.