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Cover sheets for Bush's intelligence briefings.

Started by Locutus, May 18, 2009, 05:02:00 PM

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Gryphon

well we can all just wait for O Reilly, well known and respected document authenticator, to put his mark of approval on these cover sheets so the matter can be put to rest.

ROFLMAO!


me

Hum, I don't recall saying that but then you guy's seem to be real good at putting words into peoples mouths.  Bo asked a question and I answered it nothing more nothing less.
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Gryphon

Quote from: me on May 21, 2009, 02:13:27 PM
Hum, I don't recall saying that but then you guy's seem to be real good at putting words into peoples mouths.  Bo asked a question and I answered it nothing more nothing less.

putting words into your mouth? Do my eyes deceive, or did you not say, just a few lines up that you didn't believe Obama's birth certificate was real until told so by Mr. O'Reilly?

me

Quote from: me on May 21, 2009, 01:44:03 PM
The topic is "Cover sheets for Bush's intelligence briefings."  It is not what is your opinion of the Cover sheets for Bush's intelligence briefings.  My question is "do you know for sure they are real and, if so, how do you know, what proof do you have.  Seems like a perfectly legit question to me before everyone gets bent out of shape and is discussing something that don't matter like it's a life or death thing.   Shove it under the rug with Obama's birth certificate which, btw, O'Reilley says is the real thing, and forget it.

No, I did not say that.  If you read that into what I said you'd be wrong. :razz:
Quote from: Gryphon on May 21, 2009, 02:21:15 PM
putting words into your mouth? Do my eyes deceive, or did you not say, just a few lines up that you didn't believe Obama's birth certificate was real until told so by Mr. O'Reilly?
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Gryphon

Bo asked: Oh ... so now that O'Reilley says it, you finally believe it? Pray tell, how did he prove it to you?

And you answered:It has been my experience that he don't say it if he can't prove it and he has retracted some things.  He has a copy of the actual document and showed it on the air.  Ya'll listen far too much to the O'Reilley haters to actually give him a chance.

Now, forgive me, but what can a person take from that exchange other than O Reilly proved to you the authenticity of the birth certificate?

Your choice of words may not have expressed what you meant, but as none of us are mind readers, they are all we have to go by. I fail to see  how anyone put words in your mouth...

mcgonser

Quote from: Exterminator on May 21, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
Here's a clue: you, of all people, don't get to decide for everyone else what is or is not important.  If you have no opinion to offer, please feel free to STFU.


We could say the same to you Ex:
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

me

Quote from: Gryphon on May 21, 2009, 04:25:15 PM
Bo asked: Oh ... so now that O'Reilley says it, you finally believe it? Pray tell, how did he prove it to you?

And you answered:It has been my experience that he don't say it if he can't prove it and he has retracted some things.  He has a copy of the actual document and showed it on the air.  Ya'll listen far too much to the O'Reilley haters to actually give him a chance.

Now, forgive me, but what can a person take from that exchange other than O Reilly proved to you the authenticity of the birth certificate?

Your choice of words may not have expressed what you meant, but as none of us are mind readers, they are all we have to go by. I fail to see  how anyone put words in your mouth...
Where did I say the words "I didn't think it was real?".  I made a statement I did not give an opinion one way or the other on that statement.  You are putting words in my mouth.
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mcgonser



This is the cover they need for this reports! lol
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Gryphon

Is English your second language, me?
Of course those weren't your exact words. But let me add to your vocabulary with todays word:

Main Entry: in·fer·ence 
Pronunciation: \ˈin-f(ə-)rən(t)s, -fərn(t)s\
Function: noun
Date: 1594
1: the act or process of inferring: as a: the act of passing from one proposition, statement, or judgment considered as true to another whose truth is believed to follow from that of the former b: the act of passing from statistical sample data to generalizations (as of the value of population parameters) usually with calculated degrees of certainty
2: something that is inferred ; especially : a proposition arrived at by inference
3: the premises and conclusion of a process of inferring


When someone asks how OReilly proved something to you, and you go on to explain how he did so, you reasoning for trusting his word on the matter, and state "he has a copy of the actual document and showed it on the air", what can any reasonable person infer anything from that conversation OTHER THAN OReilly proved it to you? (and if you didnt believe it was fake, he had nothing to prove, did he?)


me

Quote from: Gryphon on May 21, 2009, 06:41:01 PM
Is English your second language, me?
Of course those weren't your exact words. But let me add to your vocabulary with todays word:

Main Entry: in·fer·ence 
Pronunciation: \ˈin-f(ə-)rən(t)s, -fərn(t)s\
Function: noun
Date: 1594
1: the act or process of inferring: as a: the act of passing from one proposition, statement, or judgment considered as true to another whose truth is believed to follow from that of the former b: the act of passing from statistical sample data to generalizations (as of the value of population parameters) usually with calculated degrees of certainty
2: something that is inferred ; especially : a proposition arrived at by inference
3: the premises and conclusion of a process of inferring


When someone asks how OReilly proved something to you, and you go on to explain how he did so, you reasoning for trusting his word on the matter, and state "he has a copy of the actual document and showed it on the air", what can any reasonable person infer anything from that conversation OTHER THAN OReilly proved it to you? (and if you didnt believe it was fake, he had nothing to prove, did he?)
Then there is interpretation and I didn't interpret it to mean me and only me I took it to mean the collective you as in his audience therefor I was answering how he proved it only not meaning he proved it to me personally.  You're diverting away from the subject at hand again ya know... :razz:
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dan foster

Quote from: mcgonser on May 19, 2009, 05:57:59 PM
I care because this is sensitive material and should not be in others hands.
I doubt that it was anyone from the Bush admin. I imagine this came from the someone else.
I don't concern myself with what could of but did not happen. That is past. I live more in the present and future.

OK, let's try this a little slow this time; they are COVER sheets.  They contain no intel information because they are made to COVER the data, not present the data.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

Quote from: mcgonser on May 21, 2009, 06:33:50 PM


This is the cover they need for this reports! lol

Like all reports to bush admin folks, they needed really big crayons to produce them and the cover sheets were all too important to bush, himself, as he couldn't read and the pictures were the only thing he could understand.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

And I ask again......Were they really the cover sheets or something someone made up? 
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dan foster

Quote from: me on May 31, 2009, 03:53:08 PM
And I ask again......Were they really the cover sheets or something someone made up?

I can't authenticate them, at the moment, but I don't doubt they are real as I even heard other gov't officials talk about doing "god's work" in Iraq.  Just freaking bizzare.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

Well, I'm not taking your word for it any more than you would take mine without evidence.  :razz:
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