Democrats won't allow cimate scientist to testify with Gore

[mcgonser]

[Exterminator]

I do?  Where did I say that? 

In your post from 1:17.  What are you, senile?

I might have said it sarcastically like here.  If you're talking about the grape thing. 

No, the myth isn't about global cooling per se but about whether or not there was ever any sort of consensus amongst climatologists that it was an issue and most dismissed it as nonsense.

[me]

It was just as much a myth as the global warming thing is. 
Think about this Ex.  No where have I seen it mentioned about the world clock which is off by so many minutes every year which causes the calendar to actually become off.  The adjustment which was created by there only being 28 days in Feb isn't even enough so therefor the seasons would seem to change over a period of time when in all actuality the calendar is off not the season.  Now I know the scientists realize this but there is no money to be made if they say that but by screaming global warming or global cooling so they go with the flow of which ever politician is going to line their pockets and give them grants and maybe that 15 minutes of fame.  All they have to do is doctor a finding here and there and hope no one finds out information to the contrary which is seems someone always does.  Laugh if you will but there is so much conflicting information out there it's getting ridiculous. 

[LOsborne]

Think about this Ex.  No where have I seen it mentioned about the world clock which is off by so many minutes every year which causes the calendar to actually become off.  The adjustment which was created by there only being 28 days in Feb isn't even enough so therefor the seasons would seem to change over a period of time when in all actuality the calendar is off not the season.  Now I know the scientists realize this but there is no money to be.......

Now wait a minute. A year is 365.2423 days long. That's why we have a leap year every four years (except double zero years not divisible by four.) The year is determined by the amount of time it takes the earth to orbit the sun. A leap second is added now and then (approximately once every 18 months, but you have to look at a couple of centuries to get that average) to bring Greenwich Mean Time into sync with Solar Time. This is necessary because the earth is not completely uniform in its rotation. Two different causes, see? Orbit and rotation. The two don't accrue because they measure different things -- the amount of time it takes the earth to orbit the sun, and the amount of time it takes the earth to revolve on its axis. Regardless, the leap day and the leap second together keep the seasons running accurately enough for Microsoft. Granted the calendar gains a little time over the course of four years, and the clock gains a little over the course of 18 months. But then we put it back. The first day of spring will never be August 26th.

[me]

Leap year only takes care of part of the difference so it still is off. 

[LOsborne]

Leap year only takes care of part of the difference so it still is off.

Now look. 365.2423 days is just under one-fourth of a day too much. So every four years we add a day. Now after about a century or two .0077 day adds up to a day too much, skip the leap day for the year ending in double zero, and you are back to even. What is still off?

[me]

You're relying on the computer too much again.  Go back into some of the older books where things haven't been changed and see what it says.

[LOsborne]

You're relying on the computer too much again.  Go back into some of the older books where things haven't been changed and see what it says.

Excuse me? Are you saying that on-line information sites such as www.timeanddate.com and tf.nist.gov are less to be trusted than some book you read thirty years ago? If you have a source that contradicts my information, let's see it.

[me]

I have found that  certain events and things have been changed as time passes and younger people don't know and they think the older generation is full of it.  You might be about my age or not, I have no clue, but there have been things I know have happened and how they happened that I have looked for online and either found them changed or not there at all.  All online info cannot be trusted is what I'm saying.

[LOsborne]

If you think there is some vast internet conspiracy to distort something as easily proved as the length of time it takes for the earth to orbit the sun, or the earth to spin on its axis, you have bigger problems than why leap days and seconds exist.

I agree that many sites contain distortions of facts, but these sites are usually promoting some particular ideology. Look for your facts on fact-based sites, and always cross check. That is, get a second source. Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly do not count as separate sources. Neither do Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews.

And always remember -- shiny side out. Wear the tin-foil hat shiny side out.

[me]

Who the hell is Keith Olbermann and what does O'Reilley, Limbaugh, and Chris Mathews have to do with this? 

[Exterminator]

If you think there is some vast internet conspiracy to distort something as easily proved as the length of time it takes for the earth to orbit the sun, or the earth to spin on its axis, you have bigger problems than why leap days and seconds exist.

You're wasting your time.  See what I mean by 'these people shouldn't be allowed to breed'?

[Exterminator]

Now I know the scientists realize this but there is no money to be made if they say that but by screaming global warming or global cooling so they go with the flow of which ever politician is going to line their pockets and give them grants and maybe that 15 minutes of fame.  All they have to do is doctor a finding here and there and hope no one finds out information to the contrary which is seems someone always does.  Laugh if you will but there is so much conflicting information out there it's getting ridiculous.

No, there is not a lot of conflicting information.  The only people doctoring their findings to line their pockets are those "scientists" being paid by industry to refute global warming.  If you believe that virtually every climatologist in every country in the world is part of some major conspiracy to line his/her pockets by saying global warming exists when it does not, you're not only incredibly dumb but naive as well.

[LOsborne]

You're wasting your time.  See what I mean by 'these people shouldn't be allowed to breed'?

Uh-huh. Maybe you can give me some kind of signal next time you see me beating my head against a brick wall.

[me]

Now I know the scientists realize this but there is no money to be made if they say that but by screaming global warming or global cooling so they go with the flow of which ever politician is going to line their pockets and give them grants and maybe that 15 minutes of fame.  All they have to do is doctor a finding here and there and hope no one finds out information to the contrary which is seems someone always does.  Laugh if you will but there is so much conflicting information out there it's getting ridiculous.

No, there is not a lot of conflicting information.  The only people doctoring their findings to line their pockets are those "scientists" being paid by industry to refute global warming.  If you believe that virtually every climatologist in every country in the world is part of some major conspiracy to line his/her pockets by saying global warming exists when it does not, you're not only incredibly dumb but naive as well.

Hum, didn't Gore fire one of the scientists who disagreed with him on global warming?  Wasn't he paying his scientists to come to his conclusions?