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Started by Exterminator, April 20, 2009, 05:26:52 PM

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Sandy Eggo

There aren't words that I can find which would adequately express my sympathy. I can't even relate to such a huge loss in such a short period of time. I think I'd lose my mind. I'm sorry, Ex.  R.I.P Aldo
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Exterminator

Quote from: pariann on July 28, 2009, 03:24:26 PM
Didn't I see both of them out running around you when I came down to your friends house that time?  They were certainly beautiful, well mannered animals!!  :yes:

Yes, that was them and thank you!

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Anne

Ex, I am sorry for your loss. We had to put down our Cocker Spaniel we had for 15 years. First time I ever saw my husband cry. Pups are the best friends. They forgive almost anything.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Exterminator

Quote from: Anne on July 28, 2009, 05:06:05 PM
Ex, I am sorry for your loss. We had to put down our Cocker Spaniel we had for 15 years. First time I ever saw my husband cry. Pups are the best friends. They forgive almost anything.

Actually, they are willing to forgive virtually anything.  It's up to us as their people to never betray that confidence.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

jimdy

my chihuahua had brain cancer I had to have him put to rest last september.I send you good thoughts and silent prayer.I know exactly what you feel .

LOsborne

Ex, I am so sorry. There is nothing I can say, or any of us can say, to soften the blow. There simply ain't no justice.

Sandy Eggo

I'm unable to use the quote function when I post from my cell, but I thought about Ex's comment "...it's up to us as their people to never betray their confidence" everytime Benji looked up at me last night. He always has so much love, trust and happiness in his eyes and sadly, I don't always pause to notice how much he says with his eyes. I did last night and took him for an extra long walk, I took him off his leash at a safe point in the trail so that he could have a bit of freedom and I even let him run into the lake to tease the ducks a bit - which is his favorite game. I'm sure he may have wondered what he did to get a walk with ALL the extras, but I felt like he deserved it for being such a loyal friend and a mini-celebration b/c I'm fortunate to have him in my life. Maybe this wasn't the best place to put my comment, but I wanted to let you know how your comment effected us yesterday.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Exterminator

It's a perfect place to put your comment, Sandy, and I'm glad that something good came from my tragedy.  I'm reminded of the quote, "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."  If that's true, we pretty much suck and I am reminded of how badly every time I volunteer at the humane society...but that's a subject for another thread that I'll start after I've had the opportunity to upload some pictures to my web site.

While I don't plan to get another dog soon, I started the process of looking today.  I saw a dog at the North American Sieger Show last year that really impressed me and who seems to be producing good progeny.  I think I might want a pup from him so I called his breeder today in Delaware to introduce myself and begin what will probably be months of dialogue.  The pups aren't cheap and the waiting list is long but I can wait.  I guess it's to be expected from the dog who won such a prestigious event...for the second year in a row!


Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Santiago

Sorry for your loss.  I always send this tribute to my friends who lose a pet.

"Near this spot we deposited the remains
of one who possessed beauty without vanity, strength without insolence, courage without ferosity,
and all the virtues of man without his vices.  This praise, which would be unmeaning flattery if inscribed over human ashes, is but a just tribute to the memory of Boatswain, a dog."
                       --Alfred Lord Byron

Henry Hawk

Ex, serious question.

What is the motivating factor into buying an expensive dog, IF your only reason is to have a family pet?  Are there any REAL advantages?  I can understand if you are 'showing' or competing with a dog.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 31, 2009, 12:44:53 PM
Ex, serious question.

What is the motivating factor into buying an expensive dog, IF your only reason is to have a family pet?  Are there any REAL advantages?  I can understand if you are 'showing' or competing with a dog.

I do show and I train in schutzhund but in answer to your question, yes, there are real advantages.  The requirements for breeding a German Shepherd dog if you want its progeny to be recognized in my world are very stringent.  The dog has to be trained and titled in schutzhund which is a dog sport consisting of obedience, tracking and protection work; the dog has to have stood before a German judge for a Körung which is a breed survey in which the dog's physicall structure is rated against the international breed standard; the dog has to have completed an Ausdauerprüfung which is a 20 kilometer endurance test after which the dog cannot appear fatigued; the dog must have clear hips and elbows and the dog has typically been shown several times.   All of these things are intended to prove the dog has the physical structure, stamina and correct temperament to do the work for which is was intended and the process of training and campaigning a dog is time consuming and expensive itself.  In Germany, you simply don't get papers on your puppies if the breeder doesn't meet these requirements.  Here, of course, it is not mandatory but there are a lot of us out here who feel strongly enough about the breed that we hold ourselves to the same standard.

The advantages, then, are that even if you are buying a dog as a pet, you are getting a dog that has all of the attributes of a real German Shepherd dog, especially as it relates to temperament.  The dogs you see at Westminster are not held to these standards...they just have to be pretty and people like me wish they would create a different breed classification for them...maybe American Shepherds...because they aren't even the same dog really.  I've had both, trust me, there's a huge difference and I will never own another American bloodline dog.

So there you have it...long answer to a short question.   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

 Henry, go here and click on "We Believe".
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Pretty cool....very serious dog owners.  We "lost" our Golden Retriever last October.  I got it for my daughter, about a year and a half, prior.....and I became very close to it.  He vanished within a five minute period of time.  The gate to our backyard was left open.  But he never, ever ran off before.....I have NO idea what happened to him.  We searched the area for several days.  We had posters made.  Ran ads in the three different papers.  NOTHING.

I am considering getting another dog.  I have always liked German Shepard's, but my daughter is crazy about Golden Retrievers.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 31, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
I am considering getting another dog.  I have always liked German Shepard's, but my daughter is crazy about Golden Retrievers.

I think this has a lot to do with the whole German vs. American bloodlines issue.  A real German Shepherd is a working dog with a lot of energy and too much dog for many people...I think they really want a Golden Retriever in a German Shepherd body.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Sandy Eggo

Very interesting. Even in labs and goldens there's a distinct difference between those with American bloodlines vs Scotland/England/Newfoundland

I'm curious to know what you mean by "too much dog". Are you talking about personality qualities like stubbornness or sense of independence or their powerful physical attributes?

I like obedience training because I think it's necessary for a well mannered animal, but I don't do the trials. Our yellow lab was extremely compliant when it came to training. Benji, a golden retriever was also, but he still has a mischievous streak. :biggrin: I can see it in his eyes right before he tests the same limit he's tested from time to time throughout his young life. ;D

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous