The bully pulpit...

[Bo D]

Hum, let me see.  She didn't say it but, even though it's unconstitutional, they're going to start taxing at a 90% rate for those bonuses that were given by AGI.  One example of, "we can do what we want".  Actually it's any bonuses "they" feel is excessive given by any company that receives TARP money.  These are contracted bonuses that they knew existed and should have dealt with them before this TARP money was given not now after the fact. No, those companies should not have given those bonuses but that is no way to rectify something that was an oversight on their part to begin with.  There is no thought behind anything that's going on in Congress lately it's just we have to get this passed before people find out what's really in it.  Seems to be total chaos and self serving and they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.  Meetings behind closed doors, bills being rushed through and Obama being pressured into signing them and him just grinning and signing taking their word for what's in them and us finding out after the fact.  Don't give me that "but Bush" crap.  If he had been letting this kind of crap go on you all would have been screaming like banshee's and you know it.

I don't recall you questioning our tax money being paid out to corrupt individuals when the Treasury gave AIG $85 BILLION on September 16, 2008. Or when we gave them an $37.8 billion in October, 2008.

[me]

I thought the bailout was just as wrong then as I do now and I think Bush was just as wrong for signing it as I think Obama was wrong to sign it.  It was still the same people in Congress and the Dems kept saying "Bush needs to sign this",...."the Republicans are being obstructionist's", "Bush just don't care".  Had he not signed it the Dem's would have just vetoed his veto but I still would rather he hadn't then all you bashers couldn't pin any part of this BS on him.

[Bo D]

I thought the bailout was just as wrong then as I do now and I think Bush was just as wrong for signing it as I think Obama was wrong to sign it.  It was still the same people in Congress and the Dems kept saying "Bush needs to sign this",...."the Republicans are being obstructionist's", "Bush just don't care".  Had he not signed it the Dem's would have just vetoed his veto but I still would rather he hadn't then all you bashers couldn't pin any part of this BS on him.

Why must we keep going over this?


"Congress and the Dems" had NOTHING TO DO with the bailout of AIG in September and October of 2008.

It was a unilateral decision by the Bush administration to direct the Federal Reserve Board to bail them out.

[me]

Guess I just dreamed all that stuff about Obama staying on the campaign trail  and McCain going back to Washington for meetings then huh?  Guess I just dreamed that Pelosi was on TV with her court jesters saying "we finally got this passed".

[Bo D]

Guess I just dreamed all that stuff about Obama staying on the campaign trail  and McCain going back to Washington for meetings then huh?  Guess I just dreamed that Pelosi was on TV with her court jesters saying "we finally got this passed".

Different issue. You certainly slept through this ...

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/20080916a.htm

[me]

Oh you mean the FDIC insurance

[Exterminator]

Different issue. You certainly slept through this ...

Un-freakin-believable!

[Exterminator]

I didn't realize that the Supreme Court had already ruled on this.

They haven't but she's a Constitutional scholar, dontcha know.

[Exterminator]

Oh you mean the FDIC insurance

No.

[me]

Article 1, Section. 8.
Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Article I, Section. 9.
Clause 4: No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

Is 90% uniform or in proportion?

[Bo D]

Oh you mean the FDIC insurance

Here ... do this ....

Take your mouse ... roll it so that the pointer is on top of this link (it's the same link I posted above) ...
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/20080916a.htm

Click the left button .... and read this (I'll give you the first paragraph.)

Release Date: September 16, 2008
For release at 9:00 p.m. EDT

The Federal Reserve Board on Tuesday, with the full support of the Treasury Department, authorized the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to lend up to $85 billion to the American International Group (AIG) under section 13(3) of the Federal Reserve Act. The secured loan has terms and conditions designed to protect the interests of the U.S. government and taxpayers.

.........

Now I know why people like Rush get paid so much money. Spoon-feeding people with no comprehension is HARD WORK!

[me]

I DO NOT LISTEN TO RUSH I DO NOT LIKE RUSH.  I also read that paragraph and that still has nothing to do with whats going on now.

[Bo D]

I DO NOT LISTEN TO RUSH I DO NOT LIKE RUSH.  I also read that paragraph and that still has nothing to do with whats going on now.

Rush, O'Reilly, Coulter, Malkin ... choose your poison.

You were the one that tried to tie that issue into what is going on now.

Let's recap, shall we since you seem to have the attention span of a rock.

I don't recall you questioning our tax money being paid out to corrupt individuals when the Treasury gave AIG $85 BILLION on September 16, 2008. Or when we gave them an $37.8 billion in October, 2008.

I thought the bailout was just as wrong then as I do now and I think Bush was just as wrong for signing it as I think Obama was wrong to sign it.  It was still the same people in Congress and the Dems kept saying "Bush needs to sign this",...."the Republicans are being obstructionist's", "Bush just don't care".  Had he not signed it the Dem's would have just vetoed his veto but I still would rather he hadn't then all you bashers couldn't pin any part of this BS on him.

Why must we keep going over this?


"Congress and the Dems" had NOTHING TO DO with the bailout of AIG in September and October of 2008.

It was a unilateral decision by the Bush administration to direct the Federal Reserve Board to bail them out.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/20080916a.htm

And then a totally unbelievable comment ...

Oh you mean the FDIC insurance

[me]

Whatever dude.  It's all a crock and they should have been allowed to sink or swim any way you shake it.

[Bo D]

Whatever dude.  It's all a crock and they should have been allowed to sink or swim any way you shake it.

Oh? So that's how it is, huh?

You are shown to be woefully ignorant on the subject and your answer is "whatever?"