Losing our heads (literally) over multiculturalism

[Henry Hawk]

It seems to me everybody is making a bigger deal out of this than what it is.......

the story was about a man who preached multi-culturism....on his tv show....he was against the stero-typing of muslims........THEN he cuts his wifes head off..............it is just, to me, an ironic story....that's all.

[Sandy Eggo]

IMO I don't think for the most part it matters how the article is written there are going to be some people who will lump all of any religion, race, or whatever into the same category as the person being written about. 

On the contrary, when there are still people in the world who cannot discern the difference between opinion and fact,  the way something is written is vitally important. The fact that you were able to table the bigotry and just read the actual story is a good thing, but not everyone can do that.

The original article wasn't just about the man beheading his wife.

[me]

With the exception of this one sentence:

"I just do not feel it was an honor killing," Sanders added. "I think it was domestic abuse that got out of control."

I see nothing in the other article to lead anyone to believe it is written in such a way as to not do the same thing you're saying the other article might do.  How many people are going to read that one sentence to see it might have been something other than an honor killing practiced by his religion?  How many are going to see it and say, "ya right out of hand domestic dispute".  Maybe the entire story should have been ignored as racial or religious profiling.  How about if no one refers to age, race, religion, hair color, or education in articles of this nature in the future?  Let's be politically correct to the nth degree. 

[Exterminator]

With the exception of this one sentence: I see nothing in the other article to lead anyone to believe it is written in such a way as to not do the same thing you're saying the other article might do.  How many people are going to read that one sentence to see it might have been something other than an honor killing practiced by his religion?  How many are going to see it and say, "ya right out of hand domestic dispute".  Maybe the entire story should have been ignored as racial or religious profiling.  How about if no one refers to age, race, religion, hair color, or education in articles of this nature in the future?  Let's be politically correct to the nth degree.

How about we just call a spade a spade and let it go at your reading comprehension isn't good enough for you to be able to discern the difference in tone between the two articles?

[Sandy Eggo]

With the exception of this one sentence: I see nothing in the other article to lead anyone to believe it is written in such a way as to not do the same thing you're saying the other article might do.  How many people are going to read that one sentence to see it might have been something other than an honor killing practiced by his religion?  How many are going to see it and say, "ya right out of hand domestic dispute".  Maybe the entire story should have been ignored as racial or religious profiling.  How about if no one refers to age, race, religion, hair color, or education in articles of this nature in the future?  Let's be politically correct to the nth degree. 

Did we read the same article? I started highlighting phrases that clearly indicates the author's intent to paint Muslims as evil and beheadings as common in their culture as changing socks. I stopped because I would end up highlighting the entire article. How did you miss this?

You don't normally hear about beheadings in the United States.

But perhaps you should prepare yourself to hear more about them in the future.

The day before Valentine's Day, which has always been a holiday associated with maximum repression against women in the Islamic world, a Muslim TV executive in New York decapitated his wife.

what I call, "divorce Islamist-style."

My guess is he never reported how common beheading is in his former homeland of Pakistan or throughout the Islamic world.

Just a week ago, Taliban terrorists in that country beheaded a Polish geologist abducted in an effort to arrange a prisoner swap.


An American U.N. worker, John Solecki, is currently facing a similar fate at the hands of Islamic terrorists in that country.


Terrorists in Pakistan video recorded the beheading of American reporter Daniel Pearl.

[me]

But isn't that all fact? 

[Sandy Eggo]

But isn't that all fact? 

Well, pat yourself on the back. I'm utterly speechless and I can't say that happens very often.

[me]

Isn't it the reporters observations of facts?

[Henry Hawk]

Isn't it the reporters observations of facts?

But, c'mon me...........YOU GOT to be POLITICALY correct.....somebody MIGHT get hurt feelings...even if it is 100% true.....

again, this was a pretty simple story.............and it seemed like ALL everyone could do is turn this into a ....bigoted and mean story.....

[me]

But, c'mon me...........YOU GOT to be POLITICALY correct.....somebody MIGHT get hurt feelings...even if it is 100% true.....

again, this was a pretty simple story.............and it seemed like ALL everyone could do is turn this into a ....bigoted and mean story.....

Seems as how they've had their common sense educated right out of them.  Of course that's only my uneducated humble opinion....

[Sandy Eggo]

I'm going to give this another try:

When I read, unless it's intended to be fiction. I only want the facts, not personal observations or opinions of the authors.

The connection between any of these "facts" is fallacious and intended to influence the reader's view of Muslims in general.

Why exactly SHOULD we, as Americans, become more accustomed to witnessing beheadings in America?

How is the connection to these other isolated incidents germane to the story about the man beheading his wife?

Why tie the holiday into the equation? I'm not sure that Muslims observe Valentine's day. If not that doesn't mean they're repressed and certainly has nothing to do w/this murder.

[Sandy Eggo]

But, c'mon me...........YOU GOT to be POLITICALY correct.....somebody MIGHT get hurt feelings...even if it is 100% true.....

again, this was a pretty simple story.............and it seemed like ALL everyone could do is turn this into a ....bigoted and mean story.....

It's not, the second article posted is a reporting of the facts that pertain to the incident. The first one is biased tripe.

I find people who can't tell the difference frightening. It makes  you an easy target for anything that an author wants you to think.

[Sandy Eggo]

Seems as how they've had their common sense educated right out of them.  Of course that's only my uneducated humble opinion....

How do you make a connection between your being wrong and "us" not having common sense? That doesn't even PASS the common sense test.

If you and Henry aren't willing or able to read critically then that's to your own detriment. I'm tired of trying to explain to you and help you understand why it's important.

[me]

I find it amazing that no one read the article as anything but what it meant except for you Dems.  Those of us on the other side read nothing more than what the other article expressed. Why is that?  Do you think no one but you, not meaning you personally, can tell the difference between a writers opinion and the actual story?  Why is it so wrong for WND to do what the NYT does daily in a lot of their stories? 

[Exterminator]

How do you make a connection between your being wrong and "us" not having common sense? That doesn't even PASS the common sense test.

If you and Henry aren't willing or able to read critically then that's to your own detriment. I'm tired of trying to explain to you and help you understand why it's important.

No, no; they're right and we're wrong.  From this we can discern that, vis a vis Ted Haggart, all Christians are meth-snorting pole-smokers.