Broken Promises and Lies..

[Henry Hawk]

I invite you, Henry, to scrutinize that article and point out to the class which parts are factually incorrect.

Somebody needs to take control of your lives because you people obviously aren't smart enough to figure it out on your own.  Too bad they didn't do it before you were allowed to breed.

You're a liar because you continue to spread the same tripe after it has been proven that what you are spreading is not true.

again, you are an ass, whoops, I'm sorry an Ass (capital A)......the republicans are hyping this up to bring attention to a Bill, that the dickheads wanted passed a week ago....nobody knows exact WHAT the hell this bill is going to bring to the table....we have ALREADY seen some of the moronic crap from the "stimulus bill".....i.e. cash for clunkers.

If I am a liar then so are you....all you seem to care about is trying to make yourself LOOK like something that you are not.

try having a little class once in a while....if that is possible.

[LOsborne]

Henry, me, you both say "check it out" but neither of you (nor Ex) provides a non-partisan link in able for us to do so.

Happily, I am able to repair your oversight. These links are from factcheck.org, which doesn't rely on party-line hype, or emotional prose to dissect the issue. Why not read them before shooting off your mouth on what you "know" is true?

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/surgery-for-seniors-vs-abortions/

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/false-euthanasia-claims/

[dan foster]

Henry, me, you both say "check it out" but neither of you (nor Ex) provides a non-partisan link in able for us to do so.

Happily, I am able to repair your oversight. These links are from factcheck.org, which doesn't rely on party-line hype, or emotional prose to dissect the issue. Why not read them before shooting off your mouth on what you "know" is true?

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/surgery-for-seniors-vs-abortions/

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/false-euthanasia-claims/

Won't help, LO.  It is easier to just regurgitate the "party" line than it is to think for one's self.  Why else do you think Hank is a religious nutjob?  He has decided to let jesus think for him, on all issues, so he doesn't have to.

[Henry Hawk]

Henry, me, you both say "check it out" but neither of you (nor Ex) provides a non-partisan link in able for us to do so.

Happily, I am able to repair your oversight. These links are from factcheck.org, which doesn't rely on party-line hype, or emotional prose to dissect the issue. Why not read them before shooting off your mouth on what you "know" is true?

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/surgery-for-seniors-vs-abortions/

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/false-euthanasia-claims/

My whole point Lo, is that we HAVE to slow down on these Bills and spending....Let's see what is in it before we throw another TRILLION dollars AWAY.....I agree there IS politics being played here, but it is from BOTH parties....I personally do not TRUST the democrat party, and the republican party is not far behind them in my book......

[LOsborne]

Let's see what is in it before we throw another TRILLION dollars AWAY...

That is precisely why I recommended researching the bill on factcheck.org. The site discusses the "talking points" based on the actual text of the bill, as opposed to the spin put on it by both parties. Read it, and make draw your own conclusions, rather than believing what is spoon-fed to you by whichever pundit is currently fashionable with you. Think for yourself. Be a trend-setter.

[Henry Hawk]

That is precisely why I recommended researching the bill on factcheck.org. The site discusses the "talking points" based on the actual text of the bill, as opposed to the spin put on it by both parties. Read it, and make draw your own conclusions, rather than believing what is spoon-fed to you by whichever pundit is currently fashionable with you. Think for yourself. Be a trend-setter.

I admit I listen to Limbaugh from time to time and Hannity...but, I also do a great deal of reading and I spend a lot of time on here, and, as much as I hate to admit it, I actually take Ex's opinion 'somewhat' serious....and I ALWAY's regard Palehorse's opinions as worthy....just because I do not agree with exactly what they have to say, it either confirms my stance or it pushes me to do more research....Lo, I am 100 times more open minded on MOST issues now, than I was when I first started on here.....and I LOVE to argue, and LOVE to play the devil advocate, especially when it "tick's" off Ex... 

[Exterminator]

I just noticed the title of this thread again...is this another god sucks topic because if you want to talk about broken promises and lies, religion takes the fuggen' cake!

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html

atta boy, build that bridge between the two parties, liked you bragged that you WOULD do...

[LOsborne]

atta boy, build that bridge between the two parties, liked you bragged that you WOULD do...

Oh hell, Henry. The only thing he could do that you would approve of is kill himself.

The Swiftboaters and the Birthers have proved the right-wing lunatic fringe isn't going to fight fair. So when y'all start hollering about euthanizing old folks and similar absurdities, we know from experience now, the only way to fight is with the truth: these objections are staged and scripted by those with money to lose -- the insurance company corporate suite members and the doctors who specialize in treating catastrophic diseases (on referral only), and those who have invested in their companies. They use time-proven methods of "the big lie" and playing on the racial fears which this country only pretends don't exist any more. And they'll drop in "Nazi" now and then, too, just for shiggles.

http://chattahbox.com/us/2009/08/07/violent-right-wing-town-hall-mob-linked-with-group-promoted-by-glenn-beck/

http://www.examiner.com/x-7910-DC-Capitol-Hill-Examiner~y2009m8d7-Birthers-health-reform-opposition-nutcases-give-protest-a-bad-name

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/anti-health-care-reform-protester-encourages-physical-violence-use-of-firearms.php

No, Henry, I don't want any president "building a bridge" of understanding to people who think calling for bloodshed is a reasonable form of protest.

[Henry Hawk]

he is a typical, crooked, chicago, thug politician.......he sucks!!!...

Have I mentioned that lately?   

[LOsborne]

typical, crooked, chicago, thug politician

The word "politician" is synonymous with "crooked" and "thug." And maybe with "Chicago."

Why do you hold him to higher standards than your guys?

[Henry Hawk]

The word "politician" is synonymous with "crooked" and "thug." And maybe with "Chicago."

Why do you hold him to higher standards than your guys?

he is the piece of poop president, who was suppose to bring HOPE and CHANGE.....well, he sure has brought CHANGE.........and I now have HOPE for a NEW President....

[me]

Oh hell, Henry. The only thing he could do that you would approve of is kill himself.

The Swiftboaters and the Birthers have proved the right-wing lunatic fringe isn't going to fight fair. So when y'all start hollering about euthanizing old folks and similar absurdities, we know from experience now, the only way to fight is with the truth: these objections are staged and scripted by those with money to lose -- the insurance company corporate suite members and the doctors who specialize in treating catastrophic diseases (on referral only), and those who have invested in their companies. They use time-proven methods of "the big lie" and playing on the racial fears which this country only pretends don't exist any more. And they'll drop in "Nazi" now and then, too, just for shiggles.

http://chattahbox.com/us/2009/08/07/violent-right-wing-town-hall-mob-linked-with-group-promoted-by-glenn-beck/

http://www.examiner.com/x-7910-DC-Capitol-Hill-Examiner~y2009m8d7-Birthers-health-reform-opposition-nutcases-give-protest-a-bad-name

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/anti-health-care-reform-protester-encourages-physical-violence-use-of-firearms.php

No, Henry, I don't want any president "building a bridge" of understanding to people who think calling for bloodshed is a reasonable form of protest.

Angry mobs of older people who weren't being allowed in because they had questions about the health care bill and weren't in agreement with it.  Go to that other thread and start checking out those videos I posted and other links and quit basing your opinion on the ones posted by news groups and partial reporters.  I think you'll find out that these aren't the "organized" groups you have been lead to believe they are but rather concerned private citizens who are attending of their on accord not because some one organized and bused them there.

[Henry Hawk]

Angry mobs of older people who weren't being allowed in because they had questions about the health care bill and weren't in agreement with it.  Go to that other thread and start checking out those videos I posted and other links and quit basing your opinion on the ones posted by news groups and partial reporters.  I think you'll find out that these aren't the "organized" groups you have been lead to believe they are but rather concerned private citizens who are attending of their on accord not because some one organized and bused them there.

Me, you are right, these are everyday folks, who are fed up with this government....a MISTAKE has finally be realized....there is a march in Washington next month.....THAT is going to show the true colors of America....

[Sandy Eggo]

Henry and "me" wouldn't know an impartial source if it bit them on the arse b/c if a source is contrary to what they want to believe they label it as either "biased" or "liberal"...to hell with the truth it's all about the fact the lost and they're pissed.