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Palehorse

#60
February 18, 2009, 06:18:51 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 17, 2009, 08:23:44 AM
Stimulus Bill Broke 7 Obama Promises....

7 Broken Promises in Record Time
1. Make government open and transparent.

2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.

3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.

5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.

6. You'll know what's in it.

7. We will put every pork barrel project online.

Funny, but not one of Mr. Obama's promises were met with the most expensive spending bill in our nation's history


Obama breaks five-day pledge

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ARRA_public_review/

http://www.recovery.gov/

Done. . . If you'll read through the entire bill you will note that many of its provisions do not begin until a 90 day period has expired. Whatever it is within this bill that you find objectionable needs to be communicated PDQ in order to get our responsive representation to react to it.

Better get busy reading because this thing is going to kill a lot of trees when folks start printing it out.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

dan foster

#61
February 18, 2009, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2009, 06:18:51 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ARRA_public_review/

http://www.recovery.gov/

Done. . . If you'll read through the entire bill you will note that many of its provisions do not begin until a 90 day period has expired. Whatever it is within this bill that you find objectionable needs to be communicated PDQ in order to get our responsive representation to react to it.

Better get busy reading because this thing is going to kill a lot of trees when folks start printing it out.

Oh no.  You mean this is really online, with time for public comment.  Holy Shit.  Wonder which liar said it wasn't.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

#62
February 18, 2009, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: dan foster on February 18, 2009, 07:01:49 PM
Oh no.  You mean this is really online, with time for public comment.  Holy Shit.  Wonder which liar said it wasn't.
It was there in bits and pieces before but it wasn't put up in its entirety until after it had been signed.
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#63
February 18, 2009, 09:06:23 PM
Quote from: me on February 18, 2009, 08:19:07 PM
It was there in bits and pieces before but it wasn't put up in its entirety until after it had been signed.

Very few are reading it anyway, so what's the diff? (Aside from the fact that "they" are soliciting input and have put a 90 day delay on many of its provisions. . .)

And let me tell you this thing is like reading contract law, so I doubt many "Joe the Plumbers" are clamoring to kill trees in order to read what they have an ice cubes chance in hell of comprehending!  :razz: :biggrin:

(EDIT: Wonder how long before "Greenfleece" protests all the trees this bill is killing?)  :biggrin:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#64
February 18, 2009, 09:30:35 PM
Depends on how many people they figure are printing it out.  I started to print out some of it and thought better of it 'cause my ink cartridges cost a wad and you can't buy just one you have to buy the whole package of colors.  I might decide later to do it though if I run across something I really want to check out good.   
Trump 2020

dan foster

#65
February 18, 2009, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2009, 09:06:23 PM
Very few are reading it anyway, so what's the diff? (Aside from the fact that "they" are soliciting input and have put a 90 day delay on many of its provisions. . .)

And let me tell you this thing is like reading contract law, so I doubt many "Joe the Plumbers" are clamoring to kill trees in order to read what they have an ice cubes chance in hell of comprehending!  :razz: :biggrin:

(EDIT: Wonder how long before "Greenfleece" protests all the trees this bill is killing?)  :biggrin:

You aren't a millennial if you have to print it out to read it.  Most have  already been through it on their crackberry... :biggrin:
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Palehorse

#66
February 19, 2009, 07:20:21 AM
Quote from: dan foster on February 18, 2009, 10:43:42 PM
You aren't a millennial if you have to print it out to read it.  Most have  already been through it on their crackberry... :biggrin:

I hate to think of how long it would take to read it on a crackberry!  :spooked:

"Newsprint" template makes you go up and down to read three columns.

I also started to print it out but thought better of it. Last thing I need is to burn through 2 reams of paper and an ink cartridge !  :rolleyes: I'll just sit and read in spurts as time allows. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

#67
February 19, 2009, 09:01:16 AM
Quote from: me on February 18, 2009, 10:41:32 AM
And I suppose you're going to tell me that you've read and understand all of them, I assume you clicked the link and noticed there were several in there.

No, unlike you I am willing to admit I don't understand all of it so I am not in a position to ridicule it either.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#68
February 19, 2009, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 18, 2009, 03:13:45 PM
First of all, I would have criticized McCain, Bush, Pence, or BHO....

Bullshit!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

#69
February 19, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: me on February 18, 2009, 08:19:07 PM
It was there in bits and pieces before but it wasn't put up in its entirety until after it had been signed.


More bullshit!

The bill has been posted all along. Along with all the changes. You yourself posted an article from that hack hired gun from the Hudson Institute last week with links to the bill.

http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13277.msg299119#msg299119

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#70
February 19, 2009, 09:40:17 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 19, 2009, 09:09:49 AM
Bullshit!

gazootite.....

that is a fact my friend.........I am a Conservative NOT a republican....and any Conservative would be sicken by this package......now, I agree there will NEVER, ever be a perfect bill....I have criticized Bush and especially McCain....in the past. 

Look, I honestly hope this works.... I really do..............I just disgree with this much spending during a time of huge bailouts to the banks and auto industry.............I worry about where...ALL of this money is going to come from.

I am resigning myself, temporarily from this issue.................if I can!..... :spooked:......It is time to see what happens... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#71
February 19, 2009, 02:11:42 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2009, 03:24:11 PM
The truth is I have sincere doubt that anything we are going to do or have done is going to accomplish anything more than stalling the eventual and total economic collapse of this country.

What we are going through is remarkably similar to that which Yugoslavia endured up to its eventual collapse and disappearance. ( Research Ivan Pongracic - Former Director of the Economy - Yugoslavia). And I strongly suspect that we are headed toward a total failure of astounding proportions.

I hope that you are wrong but I fear that you may not be and if that happens, it is going to get very ugly indeed.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#72
February 19, 2009, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 19, 2009, 02:11:42 PM
I hope that you are wrong but I fear that you may not be and if that happens, it is going to get very ugly indeed.

Nothing would please me more than to be wrong about this!  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

#73
February 19, 2009, 03:04:13 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2009, 02:52:11 PM
Nothing would please me more than to be wrong about this!  :spooked:

Me either but buying ammo is still prudent.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#74
February 19, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 19, 2009, 03:04:13 PM
Me either but buying ammo is still prudent.

:smile: :yes: Yep!  8)

That initiative has been under way for awhile now!  :wink:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville
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