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Palehorse

2 on the east, 2 on the west coast. A 5th forming.

HURRICANE
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Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on September 19, 2017, 11:05:37 AM
2 on the east, 2 on the west coast. A 5th forming.

HURRICANE

Thankfully it looks like Maria is headed out to sea once it kicks Puerto Rico's ass.  :yes:  I feel sorry for the people there.  The last time they had a major hurricane make a direct hit on the island was 1928.  The population then was half of what it is now. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on September 19, 2017, 06:15:48 PM
Thankfully it looks like Maria is headed out to sea once it kicks Puerto Rico's ass.  :yes:  I feel sorry for the people there.  The last time they had a major hurricane make a direct hit on the island was 1928.  The population then was half of what it is now.

I trust very little surrounding those projections most of the time. Nature knows no bounds. . . 😳
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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me

Climate change not as threatening to planet as previously thought, new research suggests
The Telegraph   
Henry Bodkin
,The Telegraph•September 18, 2017
The world has warmed less than predicted - AFP

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Climate change poses less of an immediate threat to the planet than previously thought because scientists got their modelling wrong, a new study has found. New research by British scientists reveals the world is being polluted and warming up less quickly than 10-year-old forecasts predicted, giving countries more time to get a grip on their carbon output.

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An unexpected "revolution" in affordable renewable energy has also contributed to the more positive outlook.

Experts now say there is a two-in-three chance of keeping global temperatures within 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels, the ultimate goal of the 2015 Paris Agreement.

They also condemned the "overreaction" to the US's withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord, announced by Donald Trump in June, saying it is unlikely to make a significant difference.

According to the models used to draw up the agreement, the world ought now to be 1.3 degrees above the mid-19th-Century average, whereas the most recent observations suggest it is actually between 0.9 to 1 degree above.

We're in the midst of an energy revolution and it's happening faster than we thought
Professor Michael Grubb, University College London

The discrepancy means nations could continue emitting carbon dioxide at the current rate for another 20 years before the target was breached, instead of the three to five predicted by the previous model.

"When you are talking about a budget of 1.5 degrees, then a 0.3 degree difference is a big deal", said Professor Myles Allen, of Oxford University and one of the authors of the new study.

Published in the journal Nature Geoscience, it suggests that if polluting peaks and then declines to below current levels before 2030 and then continue to drop more sharply, there is a 66 per cent chance of global average temperatures staying below 1.5 degrees.

The goal was yesterday described as "very ambitious" but "physically possible".

Another reason the climate outlook is less bleak than previously thought is stabilising emissions, particularly in China.

More
Renewable energy has also enjoyed more use than was predicted.

China has now acquired more than 100 gigawatts of solar cells, 25 per cent of which in the last six months, and in the UK, offshore wind has turned out to cost far less than expected.

Professor Michael Grubb, from University College London, had previously described the goals agreed at Paris in 2015 as "incompatible with democracy".

But yesterday he said: "We're in the midst of an energy revolution and it's happening faster than we thought, which makes it much more credible for governments to tighten the offer they put on the table at Paris."

He added that President Trump's withdrawal from the agreement would not be significant because "The White House's position doesn't have much impact on US emissions".

"The smaller constituencies - cities, businesses, states - are just saying they're getting on with it, partly for carbon reduction, but partly because there's this energy revolution and they don't want to be left behind."

At a glance | Paris climate accord

The new research was published as the Met Office announced that a "slowdown" in the rate of global temperature rises reported over roughly the first decade of this century was now over.

The organisation said the slowdown in rising air temperatures between 1999 and 2014 happened as a result of a natural cycle in the Pacific, which led to the ocean circulation speeding up, causing it to pull heat down in the deeper ocean away from the atmosphere.

However, that cycle has now ended.

Claire Perry, the climate change and industry minister, claimed Britain had already demonstrated that tackling climate change and running a strong economy could go "hand in hand".

"How is the time to build on our strengths and cement our position as a global hub for investment in clean growth," she said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/immediacy-threat-climate-change-exaggerated-175817468.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on September 20, 2017, 03:37:08 AM
Climate change not as threatening to planet as previously thought, new research suggests
The Telegraph   
Henry Bodkin
,The Telegraph•September 18, 2017
The world has warmed less than predicted - AFP

More

Climate change poses less of an immediate threat to the planet than previously thought because scientists got their modelling wrong, a new study has found. New research by British scientists reveals the world is being polluted and warming up less quickly than 10-year-old forecasts predicted, giving countries more time to get a grip on their carbon output.

Related Searches
Climate Change DefinitionClimate Change FactsWhat Is Climate ChangeHarvey Climate ChangePope Climate Change
An unexpected "revolution" in affordable renewable energy has also contributed to the more positive outlook.

Experts now say there is a two-in-three chance of keeping global temperatures within 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels, the ultimate goal of the 2015 Paris Agreement.

They also condemned the "overreaction" to the US's withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord, announced by Donald Trump in June, saying it is unlikely to make a significant difference.

According to the models used to draw up the agreement, the world ought now to be 1.3 degrees above the mid-19th-Century average, whereas the most recent observations suggest it is actually between 0.9 to 1 degree above.

We're in the midst of an energy revolution and it's happening faster than we thought
Professor Michael Grubb, University College London

The discrepancy means nations could continue emitting carbon dioxide at the current rate for another 20 years before the target was breached, instead of the three to five predicted by the previous model.

"When you are talking about a budget of 1.5 degrees, then a 0.3 degree difference is a big deal", said Professor Myles Allen, of Oxford University and one of the authors of the new study.

Published in the journal Nature Geoscience, it suggests that if polluting peaks and then declines to below current levels before 2030 and then continue to drop more sharply, there is a 66 per cent chance of global average temperatures staying below 1.5 degrees.

The goal was yesterday described as "very ambitious" but "physically possible".

Another reason the climate outlook is less bleak than previously thought is stabilising emissions, particularly in China.

More
Renewable energy has also enjoyed more use than was predicted.

China has now acquired more than 100 gigawatts of solar cells, 25 per cent of which in the last six months, and in the UK, offshore wind has turned out to cost far less than expected.

Professor Michael Grubb, from University College London, had previously described the goals agreed at Paris in 2015 as "incompatible with democracy".

But yesterday he said: "We're in the midst of an energy revolution and it's happening faster than we thought, which makes it much more credible for governments to tighten the offer they put on the table at Paris."

He added that President Trump's withdrawal from the agreement would not be significant because "The White House's position doesn't have much impact on US emissions".

"The smaller constituencies - cities, businesses, states - are just saying they're getting on with it, partly for carbon reduction, but partly because there's this energy revolution and they don't want to be left behind."

At a glance | Paris climate accord

The new research was published as the Met Office announced that a "slowdown" in the rate of global temperature rises reported over roughly the first decade of this century was now over.

The organisation said the slowdown in rising air temperatures between 1999 and 2014 happened as a result of a natural cycle in the Pacific, which led to the ocean circulation speeding up, causing it to pull heat down in the deeper ocean away from the atmosphere.

However, that cycle has now ended.

Claire Perry, the climate change and industry minister, claimed Britain had already demonstrated that tackling climate change and running a strong economy could go "hand in hand".

"How is the time to build on our strengths and cement our position as a global hub for investment in clean growth," she said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/immediacy-threat-climate-change-exaggerated-175817468.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb

Did you even read this?
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Yes I did and it means Gore can go suck an egg with his gloom and doom crap he's still spouting. Industry is doing what needs done without all the government intervention making it more costly on everyone and lining Gore's pockets with his carbon credit crap.

QuoteClaire Perry, the climate change and industry minister, claimed Britain had already demonstrated that tackling climate change and running a strong economy could go "hand in hand".

Yes, I read this part.
QuoteThe new research was published as the Met Office announced that a "slowdown" in the rate of global temperature rises reported over roughly the first decade of this century was now over.

The organisation said the slowdown in rising air temperatures between 1999 and 2014 happened as a result of a natural cycle in the Pacific, which led to the ocean circulation speeding up, causing it to pull heat down in the deeper ocean away from the atmosphere.

However, that cycle has now ended.
Would that also account for the ice caps melting and, since the cycyle is over, wouldn't the cycle start over again? Mother Nature in action.
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libby

Here's something, another point of view: it's neither religion nor Greek mythology. It's science fiction, from a book and a short story written probably 40 years ago, when sci fi was written by real scientists. The interesting thing is that the earth in that science fiction tale  was pretty much like it is now.

Gaia: "The hypothesis that the living and nonliving components of earth function as a single system in such a way that the living component regulates and maintains conditions (as the temperature of the ocean or composition of the atmosphere) so as to be suitable for life; also, this system as a single organism."

Source: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition


All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Palehorse

Quote from: me on September 20, 2017, 03:10:11 PM
Yes I did and it means Gore can go suck an egg with his gloom and doom crap he's still spouting. Industry is doing what needs done without all the government intervention making it more costly on everyone and lining Gore's pockets with his carbon credit crap.

Yes, I read this part.   Would that also account for the ice caps melting and, since the cycyle is over, wouldn't the cycle start over again? Mother Nature in action.

Cherry picking again. . . 🙄
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Puerto Rico is completely without power. The whole island dark except for those few that have generators. 😳
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

libby

The scary thing is, what if we've gotten closer to or reached the point of no return where this beautiful blue planet's weather is concerned? I really hope I worry too much because I read so much about it -- during years of  reading nothing but science fiction. But the melting glaciers, the warming of oceans ... the hurricanes nd fires in California....
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Palehorse

Quote from: libby on October 12, 2017, 11:22:28 PM
The scary thing is, what if we've gotten closer to or reached the point of no return where this beautiful blue planet's weather is concerned? I really hope I worry too much because I read so much about it -- during years of  reading nothing but science fiction. But the melting glaciers, the warming of oceans ... the hurricanes nd fires in California....

The exact same scenarios have been in my head for most of this year and last. . .  :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on October 13, 2017, 11:26:32 AM
The exact same scenarios have been in my head for most of this year and last. . .  :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
And how was this year was  different from some other years in the past?
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on October 13, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
And how was this year was  different from some other years in the past?

It was the warmest on record for starters.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on October 13, 2017, 03:42:12 PM
It was the warmest on record for starters.
That's BS I've lived through warmer, colder, rainer, and dryer years than this one and so have you if you'd think about it.
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libby

Quote from: me on October 13, 2017, 05:36:40 PM
That's BS I've lived through warmer, colder, rainer, and dryer years than this one and so have you if you'd think about it.   
That's not the point. There will always be variations in weather. BUT, just try to imagine what would have to be going for the glaciers to be melting!  :spooked:  :eek: 
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn