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Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on July 18, 2013, 12:28:49 PM
I had two people drop due to heat stress in the last 3 days. I expect more to join them tonight.

But, "the weather is so nice".  :rolleyes:

They have absolutely no concept of how weather patterns work or the things that affect them...things like cooler sea water as the result of melting ice at the poles temporarily providing milder weather in some areas, for example.  Their view is limited only to what they can personally see and/or feel by sticking their heads outside; hence, my simpleton comment.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 18, 2013, 02:22:38 PM
They have absolutely no concept of how weather patterns work or the things that affect them...things like cooler sea water as the result of melting ice at the poles temporarily providing milder weather in some areas, for example.  Their view is limited only to what they can personally see and/or feel by sticking their heads outside; hence, my simpleton comment.

Why do you say such foolish crap?  Again, you prove you simply do not know what you are talking about.  Sure, you honestly think you do, but I am here to tell you, you ARE wrong.

I have read numerous articles and have watch dozens of videos on this topic.  I understand how it all works.  I just have the foresight to realize a con game when I see it.

I fully believe we 100% do have Climate Change.  That is the way this earth operates. It has been changing since its birth.

Man is NOT directly responsible for these changes.  Raising taxes and employing a governing body to regulate the do's and don'ts is NOT going to fix this.  There is corruption involved in the scientific world all in the name of greed.

Ruining economies at the sake of offsetting carbon credits is about the most foolish idea to strike this nation.

As I have stated a billion times.........I am all for being good stewards of this earth and making it a cleaner place to live, but I think we need to be realistic about it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2013, 01:08:03 PM
Compared to LAST year it is fantastic!  Last year we had only 3 days under 90.  This year we have had only two or three above 90.  Next week is supposed to be back in the low 80's.  So Yeah, it IS INDEED nice weather.
Not to mention we've almost, or have, made up for the deficit in rainfall last year.
Trump 2020

me

Quote from: Palehorse on July 18, 2013, 12:28:49 PM
I had two people drop due to heat stress in the last 3 days. I expect more to join them tonight.

But, "the weather is so nice".  :rolleyes:
It is normal for this time of year. 
Trump 2020

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2013, 02:35:36 PM
Man is NOT directly responsible for these changes.

Really?

Who or what has caused the deforestation of this country and the world?

Who or what has paved large areas causing them to be hotspots

Who or what has burned large amounts of fossil fuels thereby adding huge amounts of extra carbon to the atmosphere.

Insects?

Other primates?

Just who or what, Hank.

Think on that and you'll see just how ridiculous your statement is.

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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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me

Quote from: Y on July 18, 2013, 07:01:44 PM
Really?

Who or what has caused the deforestation of this country and the world?

Who or what has paved large areas causing them to be hotspots

Who or what has burned large amounts of fossil fuels thereby adding huge amounts of extra carbon to the atmosphere.

Insects?

Other primates?

Just who or what, Hank.

Think on that and you'll see just how ridiculous your statement is.
A company or person getting rich off of carbon credits so another company or person can pollute anyway while the rest of us are paying through the nose in taxes and for heat, lights, and water, is going to solve nothing.  And what about China where all the factories, or most of them, will move to and pollute more than they do now because there are no regulations there?  Things could end up worse simply because the government interfered in the wrong manner. 
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Y on July 18, 2013, 07:01:44 PM
Really?

Who or what has caused the deforestation of this country and the world?

Who or what has paved large areas causing them to be hotspots

Who or what has burned large amounts of fossil fuels thereby adding huge amounts of extra carbon to the atmosphere.

Insects?

Other primates?

Just who or what, Hank.

Think on that and you'll see just how ridiculous your statement is.



Y, there is NO proof that our weather pattern would be any different had we NEVER been here at all.....or that man made CO2 has cause significant changes.  NONE
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2013, 07:53:35 PM
Y, there is NO proof that our weather pattern would be any different had we NEVER been here at all.....or that man made CO2 has cause significant changes.  NONE

I'm sure that sounded better in your head. :no:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Locutus

Unbelievable stupidity.  It's almost unfathomable. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on July 18, 2013, 07:38:13 PM
A company or person getting rich off of carbon credits so another company or person can pollute anyway while the rest of us are paying through the nose in taxes and for heat, lights, and water, is going to solve nothing.  And what about China where all the factories, or most of them, will move to and pollute more than they do now because there are no regulations there?  Things could end up worse simply because the government interfered in the wrong manner.

Good call, the old "Kindergarden defense". "They do it so we can do it too".

The future of the world depends in the majority being smarter than that. :yes:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 18, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
Unbelievable stupidity.  It's almost unfathomable. 

Funny how some of the most intelligent people I know (the owner of my company, engineers that work here,  whole-hearted agree with me, spot on. As a mater of fact outside the few on here, and the libs on TV, the vast majority of people I know feel that way.

This nation is divided on so many levels it is incredible.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2013, 10:19:28 PM
Funny how some of the most intelligent people I know (the owner of my company, engineers that work here,  whole-hearted agree with me, spot on. As a mater of fact outside the few on here, and the libs on TV, the vast majority of people I know feel that way.

Even if that were true, being considered intelligent by someone who thinks George W. Bush is a pretty smart guy is not a compliment.

QuoteThis nation is divided on so many levels it is incredible.

Not really.  Let's take my dog club as a microcosmic example of the larger population as a whole.  It is ideologically split exactly on the line that is it educationally split.  Funny how that works out.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2013, 10:38:53 AM

Not really.  Let's take my dog club as a microcosmic example of the larger population as a whole.  It is ideologically split exactly on the line that is it educationally split.  Funny how that works out.


I generally find this to be true in my interactions with different segments of the population as well.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 19, 2013, 10:46:49 AM
I generally find this to be true in my interactions with different segments of the population as well.

Guys, even though you have this conception you are better than I am, because I don't always use proper grammer....I work with some amazingly intelligent people....on a daily basis, and at least in this area, the liberal mindset is very much frowned upon.  Even the liberals I know very well, are NOT impressed with this POTUS and his policies. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

^^

Uh oh!  I see an opening for Bo D on that one similar to the one he got on 'me' yesterday.  :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson