Global Warming

[Henry Hawk]

That was considered one of the largest $$ corruption cases ever...then there was these...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Yakovlev_(diplomat)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6429003.stm
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/081zxelz.asp

also look up the following:

The UN failed to act in Liberia-200,000 people were butchered...
In 1994, the 270 UN peacekeepers sent to Rwanda failed to prevent the murder of 800,000 Rwandans...
The UN failed to condemn slavery in Sudan...
The UN failed miserably in Sierra Leone...
The UN failed to uphold the rights of white farmers in Zimbabwe
(which has resulted in a massive famine)....
The UN failed in Angola, in Kashmir, and in Colombia....
The UN failed to act against Saddam Hussein, claiming that diplomacy and inspections would provide the answer...
The UN has refused to discuss North Korea's nuclear brinkmanship and ignored human rights violations throughout the Near and Far East....

and yet the US and several other countries continue to give $$$$ for these guys to "handle" the worlds issues..

It is a corrupt organization....and we should not be a part of it..........at least that's MY opinion...

[Ghost of Jaco]

You can't persevere in a discussion using facts so you resort to wild-assed scenarios in which the U.N. is taking over the world!

So....the UN does NOT have a stake in world governance? "World taxes" have already been proposed, to be paid to the UN.
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=%22United+nations%22+taxation&sourceid=Mozilla-search&form=CHROME
Fortunately the 108th Congress didn't agree.

Please prove this assertion with verifiable sources and be prepared to be called names if your sources suck.

Still waiting for you to provide the same vis-a-vis your assertions that no one believed in global cooling and a coming ice age in the 1970's.

[Ghost of Jaco]

That was considered one of the largest $$ corruption cases ever...then there was these...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Yakovlev_(diplomat)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6429003.stm
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/081zxelz.asp

also look up the following:

The UN failed to act in Liberia-200,000 people were butchered...
In 1994, the 270 UN peacekeepers sent to Rwanda failed to prevent the murder of 800,000 Rwandans...
The UN failed to condemn slavery in Sudan...
The UN failed miserably in Sierra Leone...
The UN failed to uphold the rights of white farmers in Zimbabwe
(which has resulted in a massive famine)....
The UN failed in Angola, in Kashmir, and in Colombia....
The UN failed to act against Saddam Hussein, claiming that diplomacy and inspections would provide the answer...
The UN has refused to discuss North Korea's nuclear brinkmanship and ignored human rights violations throughout the Near and Far East....

and yet the US and several other countries continue to give $$$$ for these guys to "handle" the worlds issues..

It is a corrupt organization....and we should not be a part of it..........at least that's MY opinion...

Indeed, Henry, the worst abusers of human rights have a seat on the UN's Human Rights Council.

[dan foster]

http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-earth_ice_age-0

Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age

Yes, brought on by global warming.

[DannyBoy]

In my experience, I have usually found that when people resort to name calling and bullying they are usually trying to cover up their own inadequacies.

Tree huggers versus Industry......from either side there is enormous amounts of money being spent or lost.

I'm not going to research so slam me now.....I would assume that the TV manufacturers that were referenced....if they were in the USA, rather than retooling and rebuilding their plants here....they shut them down and are now making their flat screens in China.

Corporations are all about profit, I agree.  If they can operate cheaper, for a number of reasons including environment compliance costs, they will do so outside our borders.  You can't deny it has been going on for years....rather than rebuilding 30 year old factories....ship labor, construction, operations, taxes, etc overseas.

[Exterminator]

So....the UN does NOT have a stake in world governance?

Not really, no.

"World taxes" have already been proposed, to be paid to the UN.

And the proposal was poo-poo'ed; thank you for illustrating my point.

Still waiting for you to provide the same vis-a-vis your assertions that no one believed in global cooling and a coming ice age in the 1970's.

  Do your own research or remain ignorant, your choice.

[Exterminator]

That was considered one of the largest $$ corruption cases ever...then there was these...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Yakovlev_(diplomat)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6429003.stm
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/081zxelz.asp

A few bad apples doesn't prove that the entire organization is corrupt.  If it does, the U.S. government is so tainted as to require dismantling.  I'm betting we could probably find more than a few complaints against your employer...does that mean everyone in the company is a sheister?

also look up the following:

The UN failed to act in Liberia-200,000 people were butchered...
In 1994, the 270 UN peacekeepers sent to Rwanda failed to prevent the murder of 800,000 Rwandans...
The UN failed to condemn slavery in Sudan...
The UN failed miserably in Sierra Leone...
The UN failed to uphold the rights of white farmers in Zimbabwe
(which has resulted in a massive famine)....
The UN failed in Angola, in Kashmir, and in Colombia....
The UN failed to act against Saddam Hussein, claiming that diplomacy and inspections would provide the answer...
The UN has refused to discuss North Korea's nuclear brinkmanship and ignored human rights violations throughout the Near and Far East....

And the U.S. did what to stop these atrocities?  Oh, that's right...no oil, no potential new market, no action.

[Henry Hawk]

And the U.S. did what to stop these atrocities?  Oh, that's right...no oil, no potential new market, no action.

It is NOT the US job to to assure World Peace.....It IS the responsibilty of the UN tob facilitate peace, human rights and international security......and they have failed miserably.  We can argue all day.  Based upon my personal views of the UN....they are corrupt.  I do not trust them.....basicly like you do not trust Republicans.

[Exterminator]

It is NOT the US job to to assure World Peace....

Really?  We sure are more than willing to accept that role when it benefits us.

It IS the responsibilty of the UN tob facilitate peace, human rights and international security......and they have failed miserably...

Given their limited resources and authority, I think they've done quite a bit.

Based upon my personal views of the UN....they are corrupt.  I do not trust them.....basicly like you do not trust Republicans.

The obvious difference, of course, being that the Republicans are corrupt.

[Bo D]

http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-earth_ice_age-0

Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age

Yes, brought on by global warming.

Is it true? Is there really someone else here who understands the dynamics of the Gulf Stream and the Arctic ice sheet?

[Henry Hawk]

The obvious difference, of course, being that the Republicans are corrupt.

You are showing your incompetence when you make blanket statements like that.........thus making intelligent discussions unfounded and negated.....  your lack of education and your capacity to comprehend a higher form of intellectual discourse has exceeded your abilities to further communicate on a level that is acceptable to those of us who champion the art of contentious deliberations of sophisticated substance......sorry.....got a little carried away.

[Palehorse]

You are showing your incompetence when you make blanket statements like that.........thus making intelligent discussions unfounded and negated.....  your lack of education and your capacity to comprehend a higher form of intellectual discourse has exceeded your abilities to further communicate on a level that is acceptable to those of us who champion the art of contentious deliberations of sophisticated substance......sorry.....got a little carried away.

Careful Hank! You'll blow your cover! 

[Henry Hawk]

Careful Hank! You'll blow your cover! 

WHOOPS!!...

[Exterminator]

You are showing your incompetence when you make blanket statements like that.........thus making intelligent discussions unfounded and negated.....  your lack of education and your capacity to comprehend a higher form of intellectual discourse has exceeded your abilities to further communicate on a level that is acceptable to those of us who champion the art of contentious deliberations of sophisticated substance......sorry.....got a little carried away.

BWAHAHAHAHA!  That's pretty good for someone who can't conjugate the verb 'to be'; from whom did you copy it?

[Palehorse]

Some of you are underestimating ol Hank. . . He's far more intelligent than he reveals herein. . . I think on purpose!