Why we are at war.....

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.youtube.com/v/m9Yc3wYJOtI

This is kind of long, but it is an American war vet, who explains to soldiers, why they are doing the right thing, and not the wrong thing....

please listen to it....it is about 9 minutes long.

[Henry Hawk]

again, a little reminder from our democrats who want to cut and run...

Bill Clinton: "If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State: "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."

Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Advisor and Classified Document Thief: "[Saddam will] use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has ten times since 1983."

Harry Reid: "The problem is not nuclear testing; it is nuclear weapons. ... The number of Third World countries with nuclear capabilities seems to grow daily. Saddam Hussein's near success with developing a nuclear weapon should be an eye-opener for us all."

Dick Durbin: "One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that...Iraq...may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."

John Kerry: "If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me."

John Edwards: "Serving on the Intelligence Committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons, it's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."

Nancy Pelosi: "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons-inspection process."

Sens. Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry in a letter to Bill Clinton: "We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."

After President Bush was sworn into office in 2001, his administration was handed eight years worth of intelligence analysis and policy positions from the Clinton years — you know, the years of appeasement when Saddam was tolerated, when opportunities to take out Osama bin Ladin were ignored, as was the presence of an al-Qa'ida terrorist cell in the U.S. — which reared its head on 9/11.

In the weeks prior to the invasion of Iraq, Democrats, who had access to the same intelligence used by the Bush administration (much of which was compiled under the Clinton administration), were clear about the threat of Iraq's WMD capability.

Ted Kennedy: "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

John Kerry: "I will be voting to give the president of the U.S. the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security. ... Without question we need to disarm Saddam Hussein."

Hillary Clinton: "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile-delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including al-Qa'ida members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Carl Levin: "We begin with a common belief that Saddam Hussein...is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."

Al Gore: "We know that he has stored nuclear supplies, secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

Bob Graham: "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."


U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein
If one believes Iraq is a real threat, and I do, and if the United Nations fails to act, then the only alternative is military action led by the United States.

Ironically, this authorization of use of force may well prompt the Security Council to act. Because if they do not, the United Nations becomes a paper tiger unable to enforce its mandates and unwilling to meet the challenge of this new day of danger.


For the past 11 years, Saddam Hussein has prevaricated, manipulated, deceived and violated every agreement he has made to disarm.


If the past is prologue, this record means that arms inspections, alone, will not force disarmament.


The great danger is a nuclear one. If Saddam Hussein achieves nuclear capability, the risk increases exponentially and the balance of power shifts radically in a deeply menacing way.


As I said on this floor in earlier remarks, I believe that Saddam Hussein rules by terror and has squirreled away stores of biological and chemical weapons. He has used them on Kurdish villages and in his invasion of Iran.

Evidence indicates that he is engaged in developing nuclear weapons. However, today the best authorities I could find indicate he does not yet have nuclear capability. But this is only a question of time.



so now we want to pass a 20 billion pork filled budget and a time frame to pull our guys home, so you can get politcal points and a piss-load of pork...

[Henry Hawk]

c,mon, guys....Why are we at war?....ask the democrats....they can tell you....it is just not convienent any more...

[awol]

ok.  one more time.  i'm getting sick of having to tell you this, henry.

we are at war because being at war is PROFITABLE to a few, select, influential people.

[Henry Hawk]

ok.  one more time.  i'm getting sick of having to tell you this, henry.

we are at war because being at war is PROFITABLE to a few, select, influential people.

so would those people include the democrats I mentioned below as well as the United Nations?

[awol]

did you type this...?

i finally had enough of the republican BS!...i'm sick of them acting like one thing and doing another, and Bush...pfft...that's it............i'm seriously considering voting for Hillary!......we need a good health care system...and I'm thinkin it time for the wealthy to pick up the tab....let's bring the boys home from iraq...

[Henry Hawk]

did you type this...?

yes, and the mere site of it, makes me cringe with extreme pain...all for a tiny little chuckle on April fools day......oh, the tangled web I have weaved...

[awol]

yes, and the mere site of it, makes me cringe with extreme pain...all for a tiny little chuckle on April fools day......oh, the tangled web I have weaved...

isn't it funny how things you have said in the past, when taken out of context can come back to bite you in the ass?

(are you learning anything?)

[Henry Hawk]

isn't it funny how things you have said in the past, when taken out of context can come back to bite you in the ass?

(are you learning anything?)

mine was a joke on a forum.....others were elected officials telling Americans what needs to be done.......nice try awol, it aint working.....what those guys said was NOT taken out of context in any way shape or form......they are freakin politicians who, are trying to cover their butt and point fingers....period....

(are YOU remotely learning anything yet?....)

[Henry Hawk]

Hillary Clinton: "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock. His missile-delivery capability, his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including al-Qa'ida members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

how is this taken out of context?

[awol]

oddly enough, when i google that quote, i get a string of right wing propoganda sites.

that was quoted before the war, and was based on misinformation.

whether that misinformation was accidental or not...

[Henry Hawk]

oddly enough, when i google that quote, i get a string of right wing propoganda sites.

that was quoted before the war, and was based on misinformation.

whether that misinformation was accidental or not...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

it was the SAME information that Bush had....and here snope's stating the truths


awol, this is such an obvious case of double standards and politicians trying to cover their butts, the bottom line is, we went to war, things went bad, and the dems are trying to say it was "lies, and pre-arranged" everything, to try to smear Bush....

and Bush has stood strong through all of this....