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Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life

Started by Locutus, November 13, 2009, 12:20:49 AM

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dan foster

Quote from: Palehorse on November 15, 2009, 06:18:51 PM
Well, it was kind of pointy anyway. . . .

Close, but there are plenty of rappers that wear a hood, so not unique, or funny enough...

However, why would the Vatican be looking for alien life?  Is it to throw folks off the fact that the Vatican is full of alien life.  You think this guy is an earthly hominid?

"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

LOsborne

Quote from: dan foster on November 15, 2009, 07:48:05 PM
  You think this guy is an earthly hominid?

Large eyes, triangular face... I think he's a gray! He's had surgery to enlarge the mouth, and the ears are obviously artificially attached. At least the one that shows is. Oh damn. I don't know what to do. There aren't any Paranoid People of Vatican City.

pariann

Quote from: Olias on November 13, 2009, 09:43:22 AM
"Ancient Vulcans practiced a polytheistic faith. Among their gods were the gods of War, Peace and Death (TNG: "Gambit, Part 2").

Spock, traveling back in time to save his own life, presents himself to his parents as a cousin making a ritual journey "to honor our gods". Both Sarek and Amanda let this pass without comment, indicating that at least some Vulcans maintained the traditional faith even after the advent of Surak (TAS: "Yesteryear")."

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/religion.htm

:biggrin:

I almost have a problem with that statement.  One human parent and one vulcan parent.  Surely being human there was some kind of Christian influence.  Are the Vulcan's so domineering that a human wouldn't blink an eye and just agree to the Vulcan God(s)? 

Thankfully this is just a fictional show. LOL
Looks like I've come full circle.

followsthewolf

But, the point is, would fundamentalists accept non-humans as legitimate forms of life, with their own "religions"?
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Bo D

Quote from: followsthewolf on November 16, 2009, 04:35:24 PM
But, the point is, would fundamentalists accept non-humans as legitimate forms of life, with their own "religions"?

Fundamentalists? Probably not. But not all spiritual people are fundamentalists.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Palehorse

Quote from: Olias on November 16, 2009, 05:14:46 PM
Fundamentalists? Probably not. But not all spiritual people are fundamentalists.

No. . . but more and more it seems the ones that control the reins of power are. . . :rolleyes:
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Bo D

Quote from: Palehorse on November 16, 2009, 05:44:50 PM
No. . . but more and more it seems the ones that control the reins of power are. . . :rolleyes:

I agree. But why is that? Is it some sort of least common denominator factor at play?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: Olias on November 17, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
I agree. But why is that? Is it some sort of least common denominator factor at play?

That's a rhetorical question; right?   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Exterminator on November 17, 2009, 09:17:22 AM
That's a rhetorical question; right?   :biggrin:

Only partially. Are we as a society so stupid? Keep in mind, please that I am a believer (but probably not in the sense that you despise, and definitely not fundamentalist.)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

followsthewolf

Agreed, Olias.

Can we be that stupid?

Ask those in post-WWII Germany if a society can be stupid enough to be led around by ANY kind of person or persons with an axe to grind.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Bo D

Quote from: followsthewolf on November 17, 2009, 10:25:43 AM
Agreed, Olias.

Can we be that stupid?

Ask those in post-WWII Germany if a society can be stupid enough to be led around by ANY kind of person or persons with an axe to grind.


Depressing isn't it?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Palehorse

Quote from: Olias on November 17, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
I agree. But why is that? Is it some sort of least common denominator factor at play?

Centuries of preconditioning to blindly accept that unless you do what the leadership says you should do, you will burn in a lake of fire for eternity! (For the most part). Blind Faith!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

dan foster

Quote from: Palehorse on November 17, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
Centuries of preconditioning to blindly accept that unless you do what the leadership says you should do, you will burn in a lake of fire for eternity! (For the most part). Blind Faith!

Probably more at work than a mob mentality, or herding instincts.  Suggest Faces in the Clouds by Guthrie to explain fundamental genetic pre-disposition of humans to believe.  Those of us that don't, or can't believe are probably evolving past the "neanderthals" that do.   :wink:

"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke