The Pied Piper

[Henry Hawk]

Henry, I want to read more into this, but one thing jumps out at me right away...

The bill that repealed that act was introduced by a REPUBLICAN,  and passed (along party lines, natch)by REPUBLICAN controlled houses of congress.
Surely you all dont presume to wash the right of any responsibility?

Nope not at all....   there are many on both sides with blood on their hands....

[Gryphon]

well we agree there...theres a lot that could have been done, should have been done (and shouldnt have been done)
but hindsite is 20/20, the better question now is how to fix it...and I dont think anybody has a real good answer for that one.

[Henry Hawk]

well we agree there...theres a lot that could have been done, should have been done (and shouldnt have been done)
but hindsite is 20/20, the better question now is how to fix it...and I dont think anybody has a real good answer for that one.

I think the fundemental difference that I have is I think we have got to get government out of MOST of our business....we are in a situation where Government has got to take a role, but it has to be one where it put's the power back into the free market of the people...being able to fail or suceed is part of what makes this country great...this should be a lessoned learned by ALL the people of this country......to live within our means.....I have paid dearly by my failures, and I am determined to NEVER allow myself or my family to be in that situation again....and urging my congress to accept the same is vitale....honest, hard work and ethics is what American needs right now.

[Exterminator]

Nope not at all....   there are many on both sides with blood on their hands....

That's what you claim every time one of your asinine slurs against dems fails you.

[Henry Hawk]

That's what you claim every time one of your asinine slurs against dems fails you.

are you doing illecit drugs?.....

[Exterminator]

I think the fundemental difference that I have is I think we have got to get government out of MOST of our business....we are in a situation where Government has got to take a role, but it has to be one where it put's the power back into the free market of the people...being able to fail or suceed is part of what makes this country great...

So, first you blame Clinton for the housing meltdown due to the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act (i.e., less government intrusion into the free market) and now you're for less government intrusion?  Do you even know what you think?

[Henry Hawk]

So, first you blame Clinton for the housing meltdown due to the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act (i.e., less government intrusion into the free market) and now you're for less government intrusion?  Do you even know what you think?

First of all, I'm not saying it was only Clinton, ..someone wanted to know How Clinton was involved, and I pointed it out.....we have gotten ourselves into a mess, where there HAS to be some sort of regulation...and some regulation can be a good thing....but what our governement is doing now, is a bad thing....imo..there are too many crooks running things now.

[Exterminator]

are you doing illecit drugs?.....

Can you spell 'illicit'?

[Exterminator]

First of all, I'm not saying it was only Clinton, ..someone wanted to know How Clinton was involved, and I pointed it out.....we have gotten ourselves into a mess, where there HAS to be some sort of regulation...and some regulation can be a good thing....but what our governement is doing now, is a bad thing....imo..there are too many crooks running things now.

You're avoiding the question...should the government be involved or not?

[Henry Hawk]

You're avoiding the question...should the government be involved or not?

Should they?.....as little as possible...is the best answer you will get from me.  Of course there HAS to be SOME regulations, but can you deny that they HAVE overstepped their boundries?...I'm not talking about dems or repubs...I'm talking about Congress in general.

[Exterminator]

Should they?.....as little as possible...is the best answer you will get from me. 

Then the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act must be a good thing by definition?

[Henry Hawk]

Then the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act must be a good thing by definition?

Well by definition, you would be correct....but things are so screwed up, too much damage had already been done, simply repealing it at that point in time, without proper oversite...with 20/20 hindsite...was a bad thing.

[Exterminator]

You're missing the larger point...you can't have it both ways and in the complete absence of any controls, the free market is nothing but a free-for-all where those in control are free to fuck everyone else at will.

[Henry Hawk]

You're missing the larger point...you can't have it both ways and in the complete absence of any controls, the free market is nothing but a free-for-all where those in control are free to fuck everyone else at will.

That is not true....and never said that either.......there should always be a LIMITIED role, and laws put into place for checks and balances...but government seems to have taken on an unlimited role and there are no checks to balance anymore....