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Henry Hawk

Quote from: incognito on July 25, 2008, 02:03:42 AM
i am not questioning your beliefs. I also have my standards of beliefs. but i don't expect my belief system to rule the lives and beliefs of others. i am open to the beliefs of others. i just don't want theirs imposed upon me any more than you do.

what i perceived from your post is :

ALL AMERICA  SHOULD BE RULED BY CHRISTIAN EDICT AND DETERMINATION.

all i am saying is:

as a non-christian----I----WHOLE HEARTEDLY--- disagree


why should i, a non-christian, be judged and ruled by christians. when i was born with supposed freedom of religion and CHOICE :confused:

and why should i, a Christian, want to be judged by non-Christians?...(just because that is the decent thing to do?      0.....as long as i got a voice and the choice....i will vote for what----I----feel is best for me and my family.................i'm just one voice...............if the majority of the people like myself in this country happen to feel the same way...................is THAT wrong?.............

I'm not talking about MAKING people become Christians......or forcing anybody to be religious.........i'm AM talking about leaders who have faith in God, and willing to put God first.........like our forefathers did..........
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

incognito

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2008, 08:14:57 AM
and why should i, a Christian, want to be judged by non-Christians?...(just because that is the decent thing to do?      0.....as long as i got a voice and the choice....i will vote for what----I----feel is best for me and my family.................i'm just one voice...............if the majority of the people like myself in this country happen to feel the same way...................is THAT wrong?.............

I'm not talking about MAKING people become Christians......or forcing anybody to be religious.........i'm AM talking about leaders who have faith in God, and willing to put God first.........like our forefathers did..........

I have my faith and that faith is in GOD. the ONE(1) GOD, THE GOD OF MOSES, ABRHAM AND THE SONS OF ABRHAM THE FATHERS OF THE EARTHLY RELIGIONS.

THE SAME GOD CHRIST PRAYED TO BEFORE AND FROM THE CROSS. THE GOD THAT DELIVERED THE WORD TO THE PROPHET MOHAMMAD

IF THE RULES and IDEOLOGY OF THESE UNITED STATES ARE CONTROLLED BY CHRISTIAN

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW I AM NOT BEING FORCED TO LIVE BY CHRISTIAN EDICT

YOU MAKE THE LAWS BASED ON YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR RELIGION ONLY

IS THAT NOT ENSLAVEMENT TO THE CHRISTIAN FAITH? :confused: 
DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA

Henry Hawk

Quote from: incognito on July 25, 2008, 03:28:56 PM
YOU MAKE THE LAWS BASED ON YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR RELIGION ONLY

how else should we base laws upon?.........our forefathers used the Bible as a moral compass.......i think, most modern societies used it as well....

should we now, just use man's logic and keep on being politicaly correct?..............

should i just bow down to others, because i might offend someone..........should i teach my kids that they SHOULD never stand up for what they think is right, because you might offend somebody else?

incognito, i'm not following you........isn't this country all about people being able to stand up for what THEY believe in?............it seems now days, that is not an acceptable way of living...........just let everybody do what they want, and nobody has to be accountable for thier actions?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

incognito

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 28, 2008, 10:11:34 AM
how else should we base laws upon?.........our forefathers used the Bible as a moral compass.......i think, most modern societies used it as well....

should we now, just use man's logic and keep on being politicaly correct?..............

should i just bow down to others, because i might offend someone..........should i teach my kids that they SHOULD never stand up for what they think is right, because you might offend somebody else?

incognito, i'm not following you........isn't this country all about people being able to stand up for what THEY believe in?............it seems now days, that is not an acceptable way of living...........just let everybody do what they want, and nobody has to be accountable for thier actions?


isn't this country about the rights of all people?

what makes christians right?

the basic concept of the ten commandments is a good moral compass. but i don't happen to agree with the stringency of SOME of it.

i see christianity as a stepchild religion. ABRAHM had 2 sons, FATHERS OF THE 2 EARTHLY RELIGIONS. JUDAISM AND ISLAM .CHRISTIANS DICTATED A CHANGE THROUGH THEIR BELIEFS IN JESUS BEING THE MESSIAH. I SEE JESUS AS A PROPHET AND THE DELIVERER OF THE WORD OF GOD. THE SON OF GOD IN THE MANNER WE ALL ARE.

I AM NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR HEAVEN. WHY SHOULD I BE JUDGED BY YOUR RULES HERE ON EARTH?

I DON'T HAVE YOUR DISDAIN/MISTRUST OF MUSLIMS. WHY MUST I SLEEP IN THE SAME BED

THE NATIVE AMERICAN GOD/GODS RULES THIS LAND.

YOUR RELIGION IS THE INTRUDER! :o :confused:
DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA

incognito

 :trustme:


USING PAT BUCHANAN(MSNBC) as an EXAMPLE

THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY. I LIKE THE GUYS PERSONA  and HIS INDIVIDUALITY. BUT,

I THINK HIS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY SUCKS!

DOESN'T MAKE HIM A BAD AMERICAN! BUT


HE SHOULD ALLOW OTHERS THE SAME LATITUDE.

HE DOESN'T (imho)!

VERY UN-AMERICAN (imho)

not the individual BUT, THE IDEOLOGY! 8) :wink:

DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA

Henry Hawk

Quote from: incognito on July 31, 2008, 08:08:23 PM
:trustme:


USING PAT BUCHANAN(MSNBC) as an EXAMPLE

THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY. I LIKE THE GUYS PERSONA  and HIS INDIVIDUALITY. BUT,

I THINK HIS POLITICAL IDEOLOGY SUCKS!

DOESN'T MAKE HIM A BAD AMERICAN! BUT


HE SHOULD ALLOW OTHERS THE SAME LATITUDE.

HE DOESN'T (imho)!

VERY UN-AMERICAN (imho)

not the individual BUT, THE IDEOLOGY! 8) :wink:



that is the way i feel about obama..........i have no reason to not like him.........he seems like a great guy....nice family........but, i don't like his ideology...

okay hillary........i don't like... :no:

mccain....i like better....i think he is a good guy...war hero...served honorably...not crazy about all of his ideology.......but some things are not too bad.....at least through my eyes.... :wink:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

incognito

Quote from: incognito on July 28, 2008, 02:19:04 PM

isn't this country about the rights of all people?

what makes christians right?

the basic concept of the ten commandments is a good moral compass. but i don't happen to agree with the stringency of SOME of it.

i see christianity as a stepchild religion. ABRAHM had 2 sons, FATHERS OF THE 2 EARTHLY RELIGIONS. JUDAISM AND ISLAM .CHRISTIANS DICTATED A CHANGE THROUGH THEIR BELIEFS IN JESUS BEING THE MESSIAH. I SEE JESUS AS A PROPHET AND THE DELIVERER OF THE WORD OF GOD. THE SON OF GOD IN THE MANNER WE ALL ARE.

I AM NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR HEAVEN. WHY SHOULD I BE JUDGED BY YOUR RULES HERE ON EARTH?

I DON'T HAVE YOUR DISDAIN/MISTRUST OF MUSLIMS. WHY MUST I SLEEP IN THE SAME BED

THE NATIVE AMERICAN GOD/GODS RULES THIS LAND.

YOUR RELIGION IS THE INTRUDER! :o :confused:


these kind of DIFFERENCES cost the NATIVE AMERICANS this HEMISPHERE


the lack of UNITY and TRUST of EACH OTHER had them
DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA

incognito

Quote from: incognito on July 28, 2008, 02:19:04 PM

isn't this country about the rights of all people?

what makes christians right?

the basic concept of the ten commandments is a good moral compass. but i don't happen to agree with the stringency of SOME of it.

i see christianity as a stepchild religion. ABRAHM had 2 sons, FATHERS OF THE 2 EARTHLY RELIGIONS. JUDAISM AND ISLAM .CHRISTIANS DICTATED A CHANGE THROUGH THEIR BELIEFS IN JESUS BEING THE MESSIAH. I SEE JESUS AS A PROPHET AND THE DELIVERER OF THE WORD OF GOD. THE SON OF GOD IN THE MANNER WE ALL ARE.

I AM NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR HEAVEN. WHY SHOULD I BE JUDGED BY YOUR RULES HERE ON EARTH?

I DON'T HAVE YOUR DISDAIN/MISTRUST OF MUSLIMS. WHY MUST I SLEEP IN THE SAME BED

THE NATIVE AMERICAN GOD/GODS RULES THIS LAND.

YOUR RELIGION IS THE INTRUDER! :o :confused:


CONTINUE;

FIGHTING EACH OTHER ALONG WITH FOREIGN INVADERS
DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA