Logical Fallacies, or, everything I shoulda learned but haven't so far

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September 18, 2006, 07:37:12 PM
From Merriam-Webster online

Logical;
1 a  (1) : of, relating to, involving, or being in accordance with logic  (2) : skilled in logic b : formally true or valid : ANALYTIC, DEDUCTIVE
2 : capable of reasoning or of using reason in an orderly cogent fashion <a logical thinker>

Fallacy:

1 a obsolete : GUILE, TRICKERY b : deceptive appearance : DECEPTION
2 a : a false or mistaken idea <popular fallacies> b : erroneous character : ERRONEOUSNESS
3 : an often plausible argument using false or invalid inference    


There, the first rule of debate...define your topic!

Alan Cohen:

    It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.

Cookie Parker

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September 21, 2006, 08:43:21 PM
Expected news...I lost so far with the judgment of two of the three judges in my debate tournament, round one.   I am sure to lose with the third judge as well, as these guys are very precise and they really judged with excellent feedback.  I was told I did a good job, however, which made me smile....

One judge pointed out specfically what he is looking for and gave examples....

I was not surprised and there were not logical fallacies this young man used...so see, Y, I do need to study...
Alan Cohen:

    It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.

Fatcats Mom

#2
September 22, 2006, 12:19:13 AM
Quote from: Cookie Parker on September 21, 2006, 08:43:21 PM
Expected news...I lost so far with the judgment of two of the three judges in my debate tournament, round one.   I am sure to lose with the third judge as well, as these guys are very precise and they really judged with excellent feedback.  I was told I did a good job, however, which made me smile....

One judge pointed out specfically what he is looking for and gave examples....

I was not surprised and there were not logical fallacies this young man used...so see, Y, I do need to study...



The thing is, you got out there and debated. Your first big debate, and the judges think you are good enough to explain in detail to you.

Seems to me you kicked ass! :yes:

Cookie Parker

#3
September 22, 2006, 05:04:54 AM
Ah, FatCat'sMom.  Thanks for the words of encouragement.  I like doing it.  It's cool and fun and challenges the brain.

Again, you're so very nice to comment.  Thanks!!!
Alan Cohen:

    It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.

Fatcats Mom

#4
September 22, 2006, 06:17:05 PM
I left these teachings awhile back; I would like to jump in again to find answers. I would like to open my questions to the teachers here by asking: What do you call a poster who attacks others when there is no reason or rhythm?

When a poster contacts another poster just to tear them down, what is that poster called? What right do they have to tell another how to post or how others perceive them. Also when they do this in a manner of concealing them what is that called?

What is the proper manner in which to retaliate?  What is the proper way to respond to their post?

Cookie Parker

#5
September 22, 2006, 07:43:26 PM
Honey, what are you talking about?  Who did this?  Where?  I can get on the HAG is I have to....I'll find them a new place to drain...where are they?

Generally they are trolls and if they have hidden under a new name they are a troll using a sock....

Tell me where that person is FatCat'sMom and I'll show them what a sock troll is!!!!!! :icon_evil: :icon_twisted:
Alan Cohen:

    It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.

Cookie Parker

#6
September 22, 2006, 07:44:31 PM
Now, I've been gulity of that, too....don't let me act holier than thou....so if it's me and you've seen it liet me know who I need to apologize to, also, OK?
Alan Cohen:

    It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.

Fatcats Mom

#7
September 22, 2006, 07:46:57 PM
Cookie, you would never do this to me. I posted it in Frigging Morons. Take a look and you will understand.

Cookie Parker

#8
September 22, 2006, 08:28:04 PM
Sorry honey about the 2 x 4 across my head to see that....never hesitate to contact me again here about crap like that....I'm quick to anger and get over it fast, too....but hurt someone I like and I'll go to blind rage and won't wake up til the person knows they've been in a fight...LOL!!!
Alan Cohen:

    It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.

Fatcats Mom

#9
September 23, 2006, 07:59:47 AM
Quote from: Cookie Parker on September 22, 2006, 08:28:04 PM
Sorry honey about the 2 x 4 across my head to see that....never hesitate to contact me again here about crap like that....I'm quick to anger and get over it fast, too....but hurt someone I like and I'll go to blind rage and won't wake up til the person knows they've been in a fight...LOL!!!



Thanks my friend. :smile:
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