An Essay on Hypocrisy -- by Timothy McVeigh

[Palehorse]

This land is their land, and we will pay for it until we die, and then our heirs will continue to pay for it or they will take it back! 

[The Troll]

PH, is even that statement true today? What are the current figures on percentage of the population eligible to vote, who actually do? It's fashionable to claim this disinterest on the part of voters is due to laziness, but I have a suspicion it is also due to a feeling the exercise is pointless. No matter who wins, it's going to be the same bunch of privileged career pols, who pursue agendas designed to enrich their own pockets, while dazzling the populace with meaningless calls to arms. For instance, what ever happened to that constitutional amendment to ban flag-burning? That was a real meaty issue, with far reaching ramifications, wasn't it.

It makes no difference why the blessed U S of A says it does anything. The stated reason will have no connection with truth, and the truth won't be known by anyone outside the beltway. This land may still be your land, but it doesn't bear much resemblance to my land.

  Using the great Troll brain, I think I know how the solve the present problem in Washington.  I think the problem is lawyers.

  If we would  make in a law that no one with any lawyer training, especially a person with a law degree "can not" hold a public office.  Other than town, city, county lawyer and prosecutor, in other words lawyers "can not" make laws.  This is the only profession that their diploma is a licence to steal when they graduate.

  These people while they write laws for the government, put hidden loopholes in the laws so they can make millions of dollars of them.  Especially if you know where they are hidden in the law.

  Kick out the Lawyers and I think the government would get better.

[Anne]

Make a list of the lawyers in office and see if you really mean that, troll.

[The Troll]

Make a list of the lawyers in office and see if you really mean that, troll.

  For the number one spot is, Obama. does that make you happy.  But 98% of the top Republican leader are lawyers too.  Can you tell me what top Republican leader are not lawyers.  You want to give a long list of non-lawyer Republicans.  I don't think George W. or Dick Cheney was, but look at their record.        and you voted for them twice.      Then John McCain and the ever so smart, Sara Palin.        Give me a break.

[Anne]

Let's see, Mr. Reagen, Mr. George H. W. Bush, Mr. Eisenhower. I'm not sure about Mr. Ford. Democrats who you throw out, Mr. Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, President Obama, Mrs. Obama. Those are just a short list. If you want more you will have to look them up yourself. You are the one who said to throw out all the lawyers.

[Exterminator]

Ever notice how many people who lean to the right and claim Reagan as their hero can't even spell his name correctly?  Just sayin'...

[followsthewolf]

Aw, cheeeze, Edith, don't make no nemma mind witch ever ways it gets writ 'er spoke --nobuddy ever thinks enny buddy is not smart 'cuz a da way they talks 'er spelz.

When they duz that, they's just common folk -- you know -- one a tha real peeple.

[Anne]

Ever notice how many people who lean to the right and claim Reagan as their hero can't even spell his name correctly?  Just sayin'...

Don't ever remember saying Mr. Reagan was my hero, is he yours?

[followsthewolf]

On the value of arguing:

". . . when there are values so firmly and so consistently held by genuinely conflicting interests that the conflict cannot be resolved by logical analysis and factual investigation, then the role of reason in that human affair seems at an end. We can clarify the meaning and the consequences of values, we can make them consistent with one another and ascertain their actual priorities, we can surround them with fact -- but in the end we may be reduced to mere assertion and counter-assertion; then we can only plead or persuade. And at the very end, if the end is reached, the final form of power is coercion.

        "We cannot deduce -- Hume's celebrated dictum runs -- how we ought to act from what we believe is. Neither can we deduce how anyone else ought to act from how we believe we ought to act. In the end, if the end comes, we just have to beat those who disagree with us over the head; let us hope the end comes seldom. In the meantime, being reasonable as we are able to be, we ought all to argue."

                         -- C. Wright Mills, The Sociological Imagination.  1959

[The Troll]

Let's see, Mr. Reagen, Mr. George H. W. Bush, Mr. Eisenhower. I'm not sure about Mr. Ford. Democrats who you throw out, Mr. Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, President Obama, Mrs. Obama. Those are just a short list. If you want more you will have to look them up yourself. You are the one who said to throw out all the lawyers.

Well, wonder of wonder, George Washington wasn't a lawyer.

  Hell, I don't care what has happen in the past. 

[The Troll]

  Over 90% of the people in politics is a lawyer.  This in my opinion, is the cause of our problems today.

  Anne you can beat up Clinton all you want.   Believe me Sweetheart, what you say about Clinton doesn't bother me at all.   But you don't have to be a lawyer to f**kup and what your wonderful Republican Party and George W. did to this country.  But we don't need lawyers to make laws and put built-in loopholes in them.  Plain and simple.

  Got any better ideas than cutting taxes and giving the corporations and the rich everything that they want.  Please put it down.