MODESTO, California (AP) -- Convicted killer Scott Peterson will be heading to trial again over the death of his pregnant wife, this time in civil court.
Scott Peterson is on California's death row for killing his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son.
The parents of Laci Peterson have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against him, seeking a multimillion-dollar judgment.
A Stanislaus County Superior Court judge has ruled that Peterson would have to stand trial in the civil case.
A jury found him guilty in 2003 of killing Laci Peterson and her fetus and dumping the body in San Francisco Bay on Christmas Eve 2002.
At a hearing Friday, Peterson's defense attorney cited in court a videotape made at San Quentin State Prison in which he maintains his innocence.
The judge stayed his ruling until June 23 to allow lawyers to appeal.
The trial is set to begin July 8.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/09/peterson.civil.ap/index.html
I'm left to wonder what the point of the civil suit may be. Unless he has certain assets to which they can attach, the outlook for his future earnings potential is quite bleak.
Quote from: Locutus on June 09, 2008, 11:43:26 PM
I'm left to wonder what the point of the civil suit may be. Unless he has certain assets to which they can attach, the outlook for his future earnings potential is quite bleak.
I think her family is doing it so he can't profit off her death. If they win ( I think they will) he wont be able to write a book, or receive payment from any interviews etc. That's the bottom line. I read somewhere that he will be forced to testify this time around. Mark Geregos isn't his lawyer anymore. I'm sure as soon as the money dried up, he probably dropped him like a hot potato. I can't stand Geregos or Gloria Allred, they make me wanna puke. I do feel sorry for what her family will have to endure a second time. It's their choosing, but I'm sure it is necessary. I sure wouldn't want the man that murdered my daughter and grandchild to profit from it. :no:
It looks like OJ is finally getting his just desserts too. I was thrilled to learn the proceeds of his book were going to the Goldman family. Infact, I bought the book. If the money would have went to OJ, I never would have bought it. :no:
Mark Hacking got caught selling his autograph ,and tracings of his hands, on murder auction. com. Her family caught wind of it,and put the kibosh on it.
I think they're right, people who kill people shouldn't profit from it. That's like victimizing them again IMO.
Okay, I'll be the odd woman out, but I don't think that OJ got a fair trial and because of his fame couldn't receive a fair trial. I honestly don't believe we're any closer to knowing if he truly killed his ex wife and friend than we were before the trial took place.
Quote from: PIYA on June 11, 2008, 12:44:00 AM
Okay, I'll be the odd woman out, but I don't think that OJ got a fair trial and because of his fame couldn't receive a fair trial. I honestly don't believe we're any closer to knowing if he truly killed his ex wife and friend than we were before the trial took place.
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Quote from: PIYA on June 11, 2008, 12:44:00 AM
Okay, I'll be the odd woman out, but I don't think that OJ got a fair trial and because of his fame couldn't receive a fair trial. I honestly don't believe we're any closer to knowing if he truly killed his ex wife and friend than we were before the trial took place.
PIYA, do you think he's innocent? Who do you think did it? IMO... the victims didn't get a fair trial. The whole trial was a circus. The jury was too star struck to have an unbiased opinion. I read somewhere that even Marcia Clark was in awe of him. Have you read the book? He laid it all out in the book. In his own words, he explained what happened. Supposedly, a friend of his told him that night that Nicole was selling drugs out of her home. It sent him into a rage, he was going to go talk to her, the friend went with him. She answered the door with a knife in her hand, because she was scared of him. They argued and he got ahold of the knife,and lost control and killed her. Enter Ron Goldman.... he saw the struggle, and tried to intervene, OJ over powered him and stabbed him repeatedly till he died, because he couldn't leave a witness. IMO... that's probably how it did happen. :yes:
Quote from: PIYA on June 11, 2008, 12:44:00 AM
Okay, I'll be the odd woman out, but I don't think that OJ got a fair trial and because of his fame couldn't receive a fair trial. I honestly don't believe we're any closer to knowing if he truly killed his ex wife and friend than we were before the trial took place.
From the bungling of the evidence, to the racist tendencies of certain parties, I have to agree there was little to no chance of OJ getting a fair trial. The publicity whack nutz on top of all this made it virtually impossible to obtain a fair trail.
LA CSI and the prosecutors office made the whole investigation look as if it were conducted by the three stooges.
I believe the jury did the only thing they could given the circus they were adjudicating. So many aspects of this trial, the evidentuary (sic) chain of possession, etc. cast reasonable doubt as to his guilt. The "if they don't fit you must acquit" was not only catchy but certainly applicable given the big picture. (And I'm not just talking about the gloves here).
Did he do it? Only he knows. But given he was judged not guilty by a jury, I guess he is the one that has to live with the reality of what really happened. Is he a murderer or a public figure who had his entire life taken from him due to an overzealous and unjust case of proctorial malfeasance? Again, only OJ knows for sure. . . And the courts have made sure he doesn't get to talk about it. . .
^ PH hit the nail on the head. That's exactly my thinking regarding the entire debacle. I never said that I thought he was innocent, but I didn't say that I think he's guilty. I really don't know.
Do you think he was tried by a jury of his peers? What about the court of public opinon? Was it biased in one way or the other before the trial even began? or for that matter, before he was even named as a suspect? Was he ever a suspect or went straight to guilty? Who else was investigated?
Too many variables were left without resolution.
IMO.... I think he did it. It just goes to prove.... if you have a bunch of money, you can get away with murder. Same with Robert Blake.... he is as guilty as OJ, and he had enough money ,to buy his way out of it. I truly believe that in both cases the jury could have been paid off. Stuff like that happens everyday in Hollywood. Money talks and BS walks. :yes: I think when they retry that nut Phil Specter he will also walk. God help the next gal that hooks up with him. I think his marriage is a scam, to make him appear to be normal, when he is far from normal. IMO... he ain't wired right. Society doesn't need any of those nuts wandering around. The real injustice is that they can do it again, and the cycle starts all over. Even if someone is rich they should be treated as any regular Joe would be. They're not above the law. If they do the crime... they do the time.
So you think out of all the people they questioned as a suspect in relation to Nicole and Ron's murder, OJ was the most likely? BTW, who were the other suspects?
Quote from: PIYA on June 12, 2008, 09:55:24 PM
So you think out of all the people they questioned as a suspect in relation to Nicole and Ron's murder, OJ was the most likely? BTW, who were the other suspects?
Faye Resnic and her druggie friends. In the beginning they thought it may be drug related. If I remember correctly they questioned a lot of her friends, but the only person with a motive was OJ. She didn't have enemies. It couldn't be traced back to Ron Goldman, because he just happened to have the horrible luck, of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Who do you think did it? :biggrin:
I think it could have been any of a number of people and motive is in the eye of the beholder. Not what we think it would be. :wink: I think the investigation pretty much shut down when they thought the could make a sensational case w/OJ.
It was tried in the court of public opinion before his feet ever touched the foyer of the police station.
Quote from: PIYA on June 12, 2008, 10:27:42 PM
I think it could have been any of a number of people and motive is in the eye of the beholder. Not what we think it would be. :wink: I think the investigation pretty much shut down when they thought the could make a sensational case w/OJ.
It was tried in the court of public opinion before his feet ever touched the foyer of the police station.
It was obvious from the get go, he had A LOT of support. An example of that would be his fans stationed along the freeway, holding signs during the slow speed Bronco chase.It seemed as if the African American community thought it wasn't a big deal that a black man killed a white woman. It was accepted because of his 'star' status. And she was just a white ho anyway...right? :wink: They did everything they could to drag her through the mud. OK.... she may not have had a Puritan lifestyle.... but she didn't deserve to be butchered by her crazed ex husband. And Ron Goldman's death was even more of a tragedy. He was being a good Samaritan,and returning a pair of sun glasses for cryin' out loud. :rolleyes: I think it's fun to watch Ron's family ruin his life as much as they can. I hope at his upcoming trail, they get a racially balanced jury, and have an actual trial this time.
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on June 13, 2008, 08:37:15 PM
It was obvious from the get go, he had A LOT of support. An example of that would be his fans stationed along the freeway, holding signs during the slow speed Bronco chase.It seemed as if the African American community thought it wasn't a big deal that a black man killed a white woman. It was accepted because of his 'star' status. And she was just a white ho anyway...right? :wink: They did everything they could to drag her through the mud. OK.... she may not have had a Puritan lifestyle.... but she didn't deserve to be butchered by her crazed ex husband. And Ron Goldman's death was even more of a tragedy. He was being a good Samaritan,and returning a pair of sun glasses for cryin' out loud. :rolleyes: I think it's fun to watch Ron's family ruin his life as much as they can. I hope at his upcoming trail, they get a racially balanced jury, and have an actual trial this time.
It was also obvious from the get go that he was found guilty before the trial even started. That's not how it's supposed to work. I think his "star" status actually worked against his getting a fair trial. IMO, there's reasonable doubt that he did it and reasonable doubt that he didn't.
Well, they took away everything OJ had and all that did was eliminate his resources for tracking down who really did the deed, if he didn't. A PI is about the only way anyone is going to find out the truth, and it is far too late for that now.
The law just seemed to drop the whole issue once he was found not guilty, thereby proving they had not even considered anyone else. By the time the jury told them they had the wrong guy the trail had gone stone cold, the evidence had been twisted to fit OJ, and there wasn't anything else to go on. They can't go after him again. . .
I don't know if he did it or not, but based upon what I saw during that circus the conclusion the jury reached was the only just conclusion.
But.... what happened to the PI that OJ was gonna hire to find out the "truth"? I believe OJ said, he would never stop looking for the person responsible for the murders? What happened with that? He never started looking for the person responsible for the murders, because he has no further to go, than to look in his mirror. I believe he was held accountable in the civil trial. They could use ALOT of the evidence, that wasn't admissible in the murder trial. The civil trial jury felt he "was" responsible. Another thing is this..... Why would he write a book about the case, and basically admit his guilt? Perhaps.... to make money? Perhaps.... because he can't be retried for the murders? Perhaps... to gloat and rub the victims families nose in the fact, that their loved ones will never see justice? I think it's all of those reasons. And confession is good for the soul. The truth shall set you free. :yes:
Bump :biggrin:
CNN had a story tonight about Scott Peterson having internet access from death row. Laci's Mom Sharon Rocha is upset that he can communicate outside of the prison walls. I agree. I think when somebody is put on death row, they shouldn't be allowed to do anything, but stare at the 4 walls. These people are the lowest of the low, and shouldn't be allowed any comforts whatsoever. The bad thing is.... there's nothing that can be done about it unless they change the laws. I look for Sharon Rocha to start a movement to get these laws changed. She is a VERY strong woman, and I'm behind her all the way.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 11, 2008, 12:44:00 AM
Okay, I'll be the odd woman out, but I don't think that OJ got a fair trial and because of his fame couldn't receive a fair trial. I honestly don't believe we're any closer to knowing if he truly killed his ex wife and friend than we were before the trial took place.
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I am glad Scot Petersons family did what they did.
Quote from: Isabelle on August 13, 2008, 01:30:19 AM
I am glad Scot Petersons family did what they did.
What did Scott Peterson's family do? :confused: I haven't heard anything recently.
I hadn't heard either.
Quote from: me on August 13, 2008, 09:47:27 PM
I hadn't heard either.
I know the hearing was coming up. I need to check around ,and make sure I'm not missing something. I followed that case pretty serious. I feel soooo bad for Sharon Rocha. I bought her book, and it was heartbreaking to read. I actually cried all the way through it. I hope she lives to see him executed. :yes:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on August 13, 2008, 09:53:27 PM
I know the hearing was coming up. I need to check around ,and make sure I'm not missing something. I followed that case pretty serious. I feel soooo bad for Sharon Rocha. I bought her book, and it was heartbreaking to read. I actually cried all the way through it. I hope she lives to see him executed. :yes:
I haven't followed it too closely so I don't even know what is going on about Sharon Rocha.
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on July 18, 2008, 08:21:25 PM
CNN had a story tonight about Scott Peterson having internet access from death row. Laci's Mom Sharon Rocha is upset that he can communicate outside of the prison walls. I agree. I think when somebody is put on death row, they shouldn't be allowed to do anything, but stare at the 4 walls. These people are the lowest of the low, and shouldn't be allowed any comforts whatsoever. The bad thing is.... there's nothing that can be done about it unless they change the laws. I look for Sharon Rocha to start a movement to get these laws changed. She is a VERY strong woman, and I'm behind her all the way.
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What did Scott Peterson's family do? I haven't heard anything recently.
I think people don't want Scott to have any contact with the outside world, because of his terrible act. Death row should be made to be horrible.
Quote from: Isabelle on August 14, 2008, 06:51:25 AM
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on July 18, 2008, 08:21:25 PM
CNN had a story tonight about Scott Peterson having internet access from death row. Laci's Mom Sharon Rocha is upset that he can communicate outside of the prison walls. I agree. I think when somebody is put on death row, they shouldn't be allowed to do anything, but stare at the 4 walls. These people are the lowest of the low, and shouldn't be allowed any comforts whatsoever. The bad thing is.... there's nothing that can be done about it unless they change the laws. I look for Sharon Rocha to start a movement to get these laws changed. She is a VERY strong woman, and I'm behind her all the way.
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What did Scott Peterson's family do? I haven't heard anything recently.
I think people don't want Scott to have any contact with the outside world, because of his terrible act. Death row should be made to be horrible.
I agree totally. They shouldn't have anything but 3 walls, and bars to look at all day. Of course some people think they deserve to have rights like the rest of society. :rolleyes: Charles Manson has a lot of stuff. His "fans" send him gifts, and money all the time. :rolleyes:
Charles Manson was also allowed to sell his "art work" until they pit a stop to that. What kind of a sick person would buy it?
I have heard that some of these people are being allowed to marry, with congenial rights.
That is just wrong.
Quote from: Isabelle on August 16, 2008, 05:48:19 AM
Charles Manson was also allowed to sell his "art work" until they pit a stop to that. What kind of a sick person would buy it?
I have heard that some of these people are being allowed to marry, with congenial rights.
That is just wrong.
You'd be surprised how many sick individuals buy stuff like that. :rolleyes: Charlie Manson has a very big following. There are members of his "family" that are still completely devoted to him. He's been in prison for over 30 years, and his "family"still follows him. :spooked: He must have given them some serious drugs to control their minds to this day. :spooked: I think he's the son of Satan himself. For him to still have this much power, over so many people, is just unreal. :spooked:
A lot of them have been married, and conceived children during their incarceration. Susan Atkins has been married I think 4 times. Leslie Van Houten has been married 2 or 3 times. Tex Watson has fathered 5 children while he has been in. IMO... they all should have been dead a looooong time ago. There should have never been any marriages, or conceiving children for those animals. Just think... there are 5 Tex Watsons running around loose, being a drain on society, and they could have the same "defect" he does. Scary huh? :spooked:
I heard that when these people were arrested, the children were adopted out. This has remained a big state secret. I would hate for the kids to know who they are. Maybe with a good home, these children may turn out to be ok. I hope the records are sealed and are never released.
But even with my faith, that love can cure almost anything, I worry that these children may have received some evil genes. They would be adults and we will never know if some of the heinous crimes we hear about were committed by them.
Quote from: Isabelle on August 16, 2008, 12:48:33 PM
I heard that when these people were arrested, the children were adopted out. This has remained a big state secret. I would hate for the kids to know who they are. Maybe with a good home, these children may turn out to be ok. I hope the records are sealed and are never released.
But even with my faith, that love can cure almost anything, I worry that these children may have received some evil genes. They would be adults and we will never know if some of the heinous crimes we hear about were committed by them.
Susan Atkins had a 2 year old son at the time of the murders. He was taken by the state. That I know of none of the other ones had children. Tex Watson's kids are still with their Moms. I think he got 5 different women pregnant since he has been incarcerated. Susan Atkins has been trying to get compassionate release. She has terminal brain cancer, and recently had a leg amputated. IMO... she doesn't deserve compassion, she didn't show any of her victims any compassion. Sharon Tate begged for her child's life to be spared, and look what she did. I am a very compassionate person but... she needs to die in prison.
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on August 16, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
Susan Atkins had a 2 year old son at the time of the murders. He was taken by the state. That I know of none of the other ones had children. Tex Watson's kids are still with their Moms. I think he got 5 different women pregnant since he has been incarcerated. Susan Atkins has been trying to get compassionate release. She has terminal brain cancer, and recently had a leg amputated. IMO... she doesn't deserve compassion, she didn't show any of her victims any compassion. Sharon Tate begged for her child's life to be spared, and look what she did. I am a very compassionate person but... she needs to die in prison.
I don't know near as much about this as you do. I thought there were a bunch of kids removed from the ranch.
I didn't know any were conceived while the women were in prison. What happened to them?
Yes Sharon Tate begged for her child life so the murderer can rot in jail, brain cancer or not. She deserves nothing.
What makes me sick is the people that "fall in love with these crazy serial killers and sometimes marry them. That needs to be stopped.
Quote from: Isabelle on August 16, 2008, 06:06:55 PM
I don't know near as much about this as you do. I thought there were a bunch of kids removed from the ranch.
I didn't know any were conceived while the women were in prison. What happened to them?
Yes Sharon Tate begged for her child life so the murderer can rot in jail, brain cancer or not. She deserves nothing.
What makes me sick is the people that "fall in love with these crazy serial killers and sometimes marry them. That needs to be stopped.
I don't know what happened to them. I know Susan Atkin's son was a ward of the state. Charlie Manson has at least 1 son that I know of. That son was born before his incarceration. He may have more children. I wouldn't be surprised if Susan Atkin's son was fathered by him too.
There is something very wrong with people who fall in love with serial killers. Those people aren't wired right IMO. :no: It makes you wonder... if birds of a feather flock together... are these people that far off from being serial killers themselves? :spooked:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on August 17, 2008, 04:05:59 PM
There is something very wrong with people who fall in love with serial killers. Those people aren't wired right IMO. :no: It makes you wonder... if birds of a feather flock together... are these people that far off from being serial killers themselves? :spooked:
I don't know if these people are potential serial killers but they sure do think a lot of themselves. As in.. They would never do that to me. or They were misunderstood and my love can save them. :rolleyes: Or maybe they just want the publicity. :confused: I don't know, but I do know that I would not even want to shake hands with the hands that did some of this cruel stuff. :mad:
There is all kinds of mental illness out there and maybe this is a form of one. :confused:
I don't think these people should even be allowed to see the light of day much less be allowed to have a relationship with anyone. :no:
Quote from: Isabelle on August 17, 2008, 06:48:18 PM
I don't know if these people are potential serial killers but they sure do think a lot of themselves. As in.. They would never do that to me. or They were misunderstood and my love can save them. :rolleyes: Or maybe they just want the publicity. :confused: I don't know, but I do know that I would not even want to shake hands with the hands that did some of this cruel stuff. :mad:
There is all kinds of mental illness out there and maybe this is a form of one. :confused:
I don't think these people should even be allowed to see the light of day much less be allowed to have a relationship with anyone. :no:
I think they should lock them up, and throw away the key. They've had it waaaay too good IMO. Ya know..... it's a wonder nobody has killed them in prison. Old Charlie has to be kept in isolation because there have been attempts made on his life. After he first entered San Quentin he was severely burned by a Harry Kirchner. He also had his throat slashed. He is also kept in isolation ,because of his violent actions towards guards. The three women have been in general population for most of their terms. I watched a documentary taken at San Quentin ,and they interviewed the prisoners. They said they would absolutely love to get ahold of Scott Peterson, and kill him. They said if somebody got ahold of him, and killed him ,that guy would be top dog of the whole prison.
Did you know that Richard Ramirez a.k.a The Night Stalker got married not too long ago? All of those scum have girlfriends. Those women must be whackjobs. :yes:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on August 17, 2008, 11:14:40 PM
I think they should lock them up, and throw away the key. They've had it waaaay too good IMO. Ya know..... it's a wonder nobody has killed them in prison. Old Charlie has to be kept in isolation because there have been attempts made on his life. After he first entered San Quentin he was severely burned by a Harry Kirchner. He also had his throat slashed. He is also kept in isolation ,because of his violent actions towards guards. The three women have been in general population for most of their terms. I watched a documentary taken at San Quentin ,and they interviewed the prisoners. They said they would absolutely love to get ahold of Scott Peterson, and kill him. They said if somebody got ahold of him, and killed him ,that guy would be top dog of the whole prison.
Did you know that Richard Ramirez a.k.a The Night Stalker got married not too long ago? All of those scum have girlfriends. Those women must be whackjobs. :yes:
I agree, lock the offender and the intended wife up with them, if they are so much in love.
I saw a documentary about people in prison getting married and having conjugal rights. That is really bad.
They maned some of the more popular prisoner's getting a lot of love letters, and that some of them were not safe.
The most I know about Charles Manson id when I read the book "Helter Skelter" and it scared me to death, all that creeping around in peoples homes while they were sleeping?
Quote from: Isabelle on August 18, 2008, 10:32:52 AM
I agree, lock the offender and the intended wife up with them, if they are so much in love.
I saw a documentary about people in prison getting married and having conjugal rights. That is really bad.
They maned some of the more popular prisoner's getting a lot of love letters, and that some of them were not safe.
The most I know about Charles Manson id when I read the book "Helter Skelter" and it scared me to death, all that creeping around in peoples homes while they were sleeping?
Yeah, they even ate food out of their victim's refrigerator after they killed them. One of the men even took a shower at one of the crime scenes. :spooked: How crazy is that? :spooked: