an article by G. Gordon Liddy....on the indoctrination of our Public Schools....long, but interesting (at least it was to me..)
Children as young as two years of age are in the bull's-eye of coming changes in California's school curriculum, which "gay rights" advocates now admit will alter the very foundation of information presented to public school classrooms.
A list of school resources, sponsored by a homosexual-advocacy group called Safe Schools Coalition, suggests that for those who are only two years old, there's "Felicia's Favorite Story," which tells how she was "adopted by her two mothers."
The list also promotes a book called "Are You a Girl or a Boy?" by Karleen Jiminez, a resource for children ages 4-8 when advocating homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism and other alternative lifestyle choices.
It's described as "A sweet book about a gender-different kid."
Other resources being promoted in light of California's adoption of SB 777 as state law include books authored by officials for Planned Parenthood and the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network.
One book, called "Tackling Gay Issues in School," is for kindergarten through grade 12, and offers a "rationale (for the inclusion of les/bi/gay/trans issues in school)." It features recommended "extracurricular" activities for classes.
The promotion of such materials has coincided with the recent admission by Equality California, a homosexual advocacy group that worked to have SB 777 passed by lawmakers and signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that the bill really does edit all school curricula in California.
For months while California lawmakers discussed Senate Bill 777, opponents worried about its usefulness in censoring public school curricula to include a pro-homosexual bias. Supporters, however, steadfastly maintained that it only clarified anti-discrimination laws already on the books. They still hold that stance, with statements this week from both Schwarzenegger's office and Equality California.
Sabrina Lockhart, a spokeswoman for the governor, insisted it is a "technical bill" intended to clarify anti-discriminations laws.
"It simply takes anti-discrimination language used in other areas of [state law] such as employment and puts that in the education code," she said.
And Ali Bay of Equality California told WND the new law "doesn't require that any specific curriculum be included in California's classrooms."
Technically it is correct that the law doesn't "require inclusion." But opponents say it does now ban anything that can be "perceived" as being discriminatory, up to and including references to "mom" and "dad" or "husband" and "wife."
"The terms 'mom and dad' or 'husband and wife' could promote discrimination against homosexuals if a same-sex couple is not also featured," said Meredith Turney, the legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute.
"Parents want the assurance that when their children go to school they will learn the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic – not social indoctrination regarding alternative sexual lifestyles. Now that SB 777 is law, schools will in fact become indoctrination centers for sexual experimentation," she said.
The new law demands, "No teacher shall give instruction nor shall any school district sponsor any activity that promotes a discriminatory bias because of a characteristic [including perceived gender.]"
And Karen England, a spokeswoman for Capital Resource who is a primary organizer behind the Save Our Kids plan to put the issue before voters and ask them to reject it, noted that even Equality California's own materials are assuring constituents the law will ban curriculum that fails to meet the pro-homosexual standard cited.
"All along, Capitol Resource Family Impact has maintained that the true agenda behind SB 777 is to infuse school curriculum with pro-homosexual, and other controversial lifestyles, propaganda. The proponents of the bill countered that this was not true and the law would merely 'streamline' anti-discrimination laws for schools. Based on our 20-year experience with the homosexual lobby, we know that a common tactic is to maintain innocence and then utilize vague language to push a radical agenda. We expected the same of SB 777 and we are already witnessing the same pattern," England said.
"Last week the sponsor of SB 777, homosexual rights group Equality California, released their 2007 legislative scorecard. The scorecard featured a description of the each of the bills the group sponsored or considered homosexual-friendly," she said.
"For the first time, the group admitted that SB 777 'prohibits curriculum that is discriminatorily biased against LGBT people.' Understand that the entire time the group was pushing this bill through the legislature, they vehemently denied that it would affect curriculum. After the bill had passed, they now reveal their true agenda," England said.
The report card specifically said SB 777 "prohibits curriculum that is discriminatorily biased against LGBT people and other protected groups."
"In fact, SB 777 will affect curriculum and public education programs. The proponents lied to lawmakers and to the public," England said.
"One website features curriculum programs for teachers to use in introducing 'homosexual history' to their students as young as 5," she said.
Among titles now being recommended for use in public schools is "A Family Counting Book," intended specifically for those students in pre-kindergarten who are yet learning to count, she noted.
The recommended resources address "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender issues that schools are encouraged to have in their collection. All of these are suitable for classroom and library use to address the prescribed learning outcomes ... or any effort to make your school a (sic) affirming space for all students, staff, and families," according to the website.
Another "resource" is about "A 10-year-old [who] asks her lesbian grandmother a heartwarming question," "What's a lesbian?"
Others feature stories about a boy who makes a card for his mother "and her partner" for Mother's Day, and another for "pre-kindergarten" is a coloring book called "Beach Party with Alexis" which is described as "a super story with people of color and gay/lesbian parents."
For older children, such as those in fifth grade, there's a book called "Coping With ... Your Sexual Orientation" and it is "especially designed for the public school system."
For those as young as age 3, there's "The Different Dragon," which "shows how the wonderful curiosity and care of a little boy, along with some help from one of his moms, leads to magical and unexpected places ..."
There also are offered several elementary school "lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender" lesson plans, produced by the Buena Vista Lesbian and Gay Parents Group, among others.
Rounding out the multimedia offerings are videos such as "Different and the Same," a series of nine videos which is described as good, but not great because none of the videos specifically condemns "homophobia."
GLSEN also has produced another resource, "Tackling Gay Issues in Schools," substantiating the "rationale" for including such teachings in California classrooms.
WND already has reported how the Gay Straight Alliance has forwarded instructions to its California chapters with information on how to make sure homosexuality is taught in public schools, and its warning having students and parents simply "tolerate" homosexuality is not enough.
"Tolerance education is an important first step, but we need to push further," the instructions said. "Infuse LGBTQ curriculum into history, social science, and literature classes," is the organization's plan.
WND also has reported how thousands of requests for information about homeschooling and Christian school are bombarding organizations that support those efforts.
A spokeswoman for a ministry called Considering Homeschooling said she already has seen an overwhelming increase in requests for information about homeschooling.
As a result, spokeswoman Denise Kanter told WND that her group is sending out 5,000 DVD packages to churches around the state that include basic "how-to" information to provide parents a direction to turn when they choose to protect their children from the new school agenda.
Another group's website, Discover Christian Schools, has been getting almost 4,000 visits per day as parents seek alternatives, co-founder Harold Naylor Jr. said.
Besides the referendum being pursued by England's organization, WND also has reported on work by the non-profit Advocates for Faith and Freedom to file a lawsuit challenging a SB 777
Didn't site your source, Henry
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59259
The World Nut Daily isn't to be taken seriously.
When I was a child, children w/disabilities, be it physical such as being deaf or blind or learning disabilities were segregated into other schools away from the children w/out similar limitations. Because of this, as a child, I was uncomfortable around someone who had a disability. The children whose parents had a disability were treated as if it extended to them. There was a time, not long before that, when children of different races were segregated.
I'm not equating homosexuality w/a disability, but just using disabilities and segregation as an example of what can happen to the mindset of a child who is taught, even when it's unspoken, that different isn't a good thing. The best time to teach someone acceptance and tolerance is when they are children. Families come in all shapes and sizes, Henry.
My children go to California schools. They are exposed to same gender literature, however, neither of them have taken "How to be homosexual 101" yet. :rolleyes:
despite what your opinion of wnd..........it is an opinion BASED on facts..........you don't take it serious because you don't agree with it.......
it does NOT make it any less of a point of view that MANY share.....
the schools are not THERE to teach kids tolerance..........THAT is the problem with Public Schools and our Government.........it IS as much of their business as the liberals say it is none of the Christians business to wanting Prayer in School...........an absolute double standard.. :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 11:19:09 AM
despite what your opinion of wnd..........it is an opinion BASED on facts..........you don't take it serious because you don't agree with it.......
it does NOT make it any less of a point of view that MANY share.....
the schools are not THERE to teach kids tolerance..........THAT is the problem with Public Schools and our Government.........it IS as much of their business as the liberals say it is none of the Christians business to wanting Prayer in School...........an absolute double standard.. :yes:
No way is it a double standard. Not even close. Kim may be more qualified to chime in on this, but socialization is a huge part of what the schools have become responsible for. If the kids are more comfortable and less antagonistic then they learn better and the job should be easier for the teachers. What's wrong with children learning to be accepting of diversity in school a diverse place sending these children out into a diverse world? Education is about WAY more than reading, writing and arithmetic.
I imagine all those parents against racial integration felt the same way as you do. I imagine the people who came up w/the the exclusion idea for the challenged students felt that way too.
As for the "World Nut Daily" there is nothing factual about teaching our children homosexuality. Nothing.
Quote from: PIYA on December 27, 2007, 11:34:51 AM
I imagine all those parents against racial integration felt the same way as you do. I imagine the people who came up w/the the exclusion idea for the challenged students felt that way too.
that is a raciest statment Piya.........and a discrimatory statement.........simply because I do NOT want Gov. employees telling my kid that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle or that the words "Mommy and Daddy" MIGHT be hurtfull..........this is why home schooling is growing at a rapid rate....
you comparing people like myself to those who opposed of racial integration is raciest .. itself...that is wrong.........comparing race to a persons lifestyle is wrong..........
IT IS a Double Standard...................you don't want Christian Values taught and I don't want Homosexual Values taught....PERIOD.....but, that is what is goning on in SOME of our Public Schools at this time...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 11:48:45 AM
that is a raciest statment Piya.........and a discrimatory statement.........simply because I do NOT want Gov. employees telling my kid that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle or that the words "Mommy and Daddy" MIGHT be hurtfull..........this is why home schooling is growing at a rapid rate....
Are you denying that there were people who thought that schooling more than one race under the same roof "might be hurtful"? What would be the reason for segregating children who are challenged? Who is that hurting?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 11:48:45 AM
you comparing people like myself to those who opposed of racial integration is raciest .. itself...that is wrong.........comparing race to a persons lifestyle is wrong..........
My point, which you're missing is that isn't any different. Intolerance is intolerance. Period.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 11:48:45 AM
IT IS a Double Standard...................you don't want Christian Values taught and I don't want Homosexual Values taught....PERIOD.....but, that is what is goning on in SOME of our Public Schools at this time...
Values? Is this an example of your Christian values? Intolerance? You can keep it. Aside from that it's not the same thing. There's a huge difference between indoctrination of one set of religious beliefs and incorporating reality. Are you so narrow-minded that you think negating the negative perceptions through awareness is the same as teaching values?
As I said, families come in all shapes and sizes and until children are taught that different is okay and it's wrong to judge someone based on their lifestyle or worse the lifestyle of their parents, then there's never any hope for peace. Funny, the Christian can't seem understand that.
Ya know, being a Christian does NOT mean being tolerant...........it means that there IS a RIGHT and a WRONG....
I can tolerate people not agreeing with me and I can tolerate putting up with someone I don't particulary like..........but, according to the left or those who anti-Christian.....I HAVE to tolerate everybody's lifestyle and beliefs.....and that don't cut the mustard for me........this does NOT equate hate towards those people, but do NOT tell me I have to accept that ALL beliefs are equal.....and try to make people believe that this world will be a better place IF we would JUST tolerate EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING....
as a Christian, I WILL do my best to love EVERYBODY.....it does not mean I have to LIKE everybody....I WILL STAND FIRM on the values that God has taught me through His word....and I will not sit back and condone what I believe is WRONG....I'm not going to shoot nobody, and I'm Thankful we live in a land where we can disagree .... peacefully.....
and VALUES that we used to hold dear in this country...........is slippiing away......and it seems that we are sinking in a cess pool....imo
:rolleyes: So much for leaving judgment in the hands of God.
Tolerance simply avoids offending someone; we must help our children live in love, which actively seeks to promote the good of another person.
Tolerance says, "You must approve of what I do."
Love responds, "I must do something harder; I will love you, even when your behavior offends me."
Tolerance says, "You must agree with me."
Love responds, "I must do something harder; I will tell you the truth, because I am convinced 'the truth will set you free.' "
Tolerance says, "You must allow me to have my way."
Love responds, "I must do something harder; I will plead with you to follow the right way, because I believe you are worth the risk."
Tolerance seeks to be inoffensive; love takes risks. Tolerance glorifies division; love seeks unity. Tolerance costs nothing; love costs everything.
Josh McDowell...
Quote from: PIYA on December 27, 2007, 01:09:36 PM
:rolleyes: So much for leaving judgment in the hands of God.
I'm not judging ANYBODY....eternal life is up to GOD..........not me...never implied it.. :no:...........but, there are TRUTHS, that GOD gave us......and you can CHOSE not to believe it or you can CHOSE TOO believe it.........I, based on personal decisions have CHOSE TOO....
I'm not telling NOBODY how to live...........God already DID....................
don't tell me how my kids should live or even suggest HOW they SHOULD live.....
JUDGEMENT IS IN THE HANDS OF GOD............... :yes:
Piya, lets go to my bar and have a drink................on me of course......... :)
and I WON"T TALK RELIGION.... ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 01:05:38 PM
Ya know, being a Christian does NOT mean being tolerant...........it means that there IS a RIGHT and a WRONG....
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Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 01:17:02 PM
I'm not telling NOBODY how to live...........God already DID....................
What is this, then?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 01:17:02 PM
"Tolerance says, "You must allow me to have my way."
Love responds, "I must do something harder; I will plead with you to follow the right way, because I believe you are worth the risk.""
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 27, 2007, 01:17:02 PM
don't tell me how my kids should live or even suggest HOW they SHOULD live.....
Have you even read SB 777. It doesn't mandate any of the crap you listed from nutjob, felony convicted liar, G. Gordon Liddy. SB 777 only adds sexual orientation as a "protected class" within the education system.
Methinks thou dost protest too much about gays taking over. You aren't one of those closet republicans like Larry Craig, are you? He hates those people, too.... :eek: :smile:
I think it is time to inject another round of Protection of Marriage Act stuff into the next election. We don't want anymore clean cut Republicans converting to homosexuality because gays are being "tolerated".
Quote from: dan foster on December 27, 2007, 05:25:56 PM
It doesn't mandate any of the crap you listed from nutjob, felony convicted liar, G. Gordon Liddy.
You forgot thong-aficianado.
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Quote from: PIYA on December 27, 2007, 11:34:51 AM
No way is it a double standard. Not even close. Kim may be more qualified to chime in on this, but socialization is a huge part of what the schools have become responsible for. If the kids are more comfortable and less antagonistic then they learn better and the job should be easier for the teachers. What's wrong with children learning to be accepting of diversity in school a diverse place sending these children out into a diverse world? Education is about WAY more than reading, writing and arithmetic.
I imagine all those parents against racial integration felt the same way as you do. I imagine the people who came up w/the the exclusion idea for the challenged students felt that way too.
As for the "World Nut Daily" there is nothing factual about teaching our children homosexuality. Nothing.
Two things - I am not comfortable with ANY group who wants equal treatment by pushing their agenda into public schools. It doesn't allow any such group to be looked upon as equal but special since we have to take special measurements ie: placing certain books in the classroom, have tolerance classes, afterschool groups, etc... HOWEVER, I do agree that children are the first to overlook things about each other that us stubborn adults can't or won't. I don't think that is something that is out right taught in school, but more of a social adaptation that all kids go through while placed in a situation where people are not always like themselves. We do have more classes and lessons on character traits, but I think that is because they took the Golden Rule out of school and had to replace it with something more PC.
Quote from: kimmi on January 01, 2008, 08:11:09 PM
Two things - I am not comfortable with ANY group who wants equal treatment by pushing their agenda into public schools. It doesn't allow any such group to be looked upon as equal but special since we have to take special measurements ie: placing certain books in the classroom, have tolerance classes, afterschool groups, etc... HOWEVER, I do agree that children are the first to overlook things about each other that us stubborn adults can't or won't. I don't think that is something that is out right taught in school, but more of a social adaptation that all kids go through while placed in a situation where people are not always like themselves. We do have more classes and lessons on character traits, but I think that is because they took the Golden Rule out of school and had to replace it with something more PC.
I agree with most of your point. School should be for an education and not a political football. However, I think the guidelines don't do anything more than tell teachers they can't just write off whole groups of students because the teachers "don't like those kind". I also don't think anyone "took the golden rule" out of school. We just no longer promote a mystical version of that. Kids learn the golden rule on the basis of common human decency, as you pointed out, as well.
Quote from: C91 on January 01, 2008, 07:25:42 PM
You forgot thong-aficianado.
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Nice sandles...
The pic makes me think liddy is just another one of "those": closet GOP'er like gannon, haggard, craig, foley, allen, ...........
Quote from: dan foster on January 02, 2008, 10:31:13 AM
I agree with most of your point. School should be for an education and not a political football. However, I think the guidelines don't do anything more than tell teachers they can't just write off whole groups of students because the teachers "don't like those kind". I also don't think anyone "took the golden rule" out of school. We just no longer promote a mystical version of that. Kids learn the golden rule on the basis of common human decency, as you pointed out, as well.
Most people (notice I said most) that go into teaching are not the kind of people who "write off" groups of people because we don't like their kind. We like all kinds and that is why we teach and others don't.
Quote from: kimmi on January 02, 2008, 12:24:55 PM
Most people (notice I said most) that go into teaching are not the kind of people who "write off" groups of people because we don't like their kind. We like all kinds and that is why we teach and others don't.
Agree. It is like everything else; only takes a few to cause the problem and cause the "rules" to be laid down. I am sure most laws on the books don't pertain to most of us.