this space reserved for hypothetical situation debates and conversations. mostly odd thoughts i have about distant future/science fiction situations.
for instance: can you imagine the homocides, suicides and wars that will plauge the first generation of telepaths?
if you could "hear" exactly what your parents, spouse, or even best friend thought about you?
how about lawsuits? "i have to hear what they think of me at work all day!!"
any thoughts? :think:
How many careers will/could become obsolete or downsized with the expansion & eased access of the internet?
Well, we all wish to be a fly on the wall at one point or another but, as they say, becareful what you wish for. Do you think aluminum foil on the head would prevent them from 'hearing'?
What's going to happen to the Price of Right when Bob Barker dies?
What would daytime television be like without all of these darn Judge shows? Judge Judy...Alex...Stephanie...there's a whole list of them!
1. When Barker dies, he'll have to spin the wheel. If he hits a dollar, he goes to heaven. No dollar, hell.
2. I'm waiting for Judge Smartass. She pulls the lever and both parties drop down to compete with Barker at the wheel spin.
That answer, my friend, just won you an applause! :biggrin:
Olde English saying:
"Be careful of listening at keyholes, lest ye be vexed."
I'm not sure any of us would want to know what everybody thinks of us all the time.
:o
lemme set the scene. couple married 15 years. three children, 13, 8, and 6. life is good, but dull. the guy's sex drive is down, just as the woman's is peaking. one of the little ironic practical jokes by the creator. so lets just say it has been a while. she succombs one night to the advances of someone she has known casually for a while, while hubby is out with the kids visiting grandma. she realizes her mistake in the morning, confesses to her priest, and decides to never let it happen again. but she discovers six weeks later that she is knocked up.
so, tell the hubby, have the baby, divorce, divide and destroy the home?
abort a sack of cells?
explain.
k, if you don't like that one, here's another.
if you recieved a clear message from the hereafter, and that message was "it doesn't matter what you do, you're going to hell", how would your life change?
Quote from: awol on November 23, 2006, 08:37:53 PM
k, if you don't like that one, here's another.
if you recieved a clear message from the hereafter, and that message was "it doesn't matter what you do, you're going to hell", how would your life change?
This one is a little easier I think. With the previous one...I know what I would do, but that may or may not be the right decision, let alone one that someone else should consider.
On this question...Growing up I was sent to a church that basically taught this. You're more than likely going to hell anyway, BUT if you live a live according to the word of God then there's a slight chance you may be accepted. As a child, my daughter's age or younger, I thought to myself...why bother? If my chances are that slim then I'm not going to skip all the fun just on a "small chance". I'm not saying to be Christian you have to "skip all the fun", but in this particular church that was the case. We even had a list of products that we weren't supposed to use. No laughter or joy in this church what-so-ever, so I couldn't see it for myself. Still....
Working on your theory that there is a hereafter and I get the message, then I don't see my life changing that much. I haven't based my morals and values on the promise of going someplace special when I die. I live a fairly "good" life and I hope that if there is a hereafter that is taken into consideration, but even if I were going to hell...I'd live the same life. Mainly because it's me that has to live with it right now.
would you bother going to church anymore? why?
Um, don't know. I don't go on a regular basis as it is. I haven't had a "home" church since that time period when I was a child. So, to answer your question, maybe, but probably not any more or any less. Is the point that you're trying to get at along the lines of when people realize their own mortality/demise/end then they are more likely to go to church? The thought being that perhaps they can change the future outcome...in the hereafter?
no, not really. my point is that the connection between morality and religion is loose at best. even guaranteed an eternity of damnation, i doubt anyone would alter their lifestyle much.
This is a good and thought provoking idea awol and I'm hoping that more chime in on it, because I agree with you on one-hand, in fact my position is the same. I don't see it changing my lifestyle too much. Yet, you look at the events after a major tragedy and you'll find that more people are attending church and claiming to believe in God. So, a message such as you described, would cause that reaction on a larger scale...I think. Then you have those that would think it was party time. "I'm going to hell anyway so I may as well live it up" kind of thought process.
No, but trying to convince lots of people to do so, or at least comforting pathetic attempts, gives lots of preachers a job.
And it gives others a fulfillment to believe that they have done fine work and, thereby, get the gold ticket to the pearly gates.
followsthewolf .. I am not very good at this but I will try to explain how I feel about this. Everyone (I think) knows that I have found a church and that I am happy. My life has not changed much. I am still the same person, doing the same things. I was a good person before I found this church and I think I was going to heaven. For me the church is like a home. I wouldn't want to go to work everyday and not know where I was going to sleep that night, no matter how nice the place I slet was. I like to have a home and know that is where I will be at the end of the day.... always the same place.
My church is like that to me.. it is like a home and I know where I will be. The people in the church are like a family.. I am sure they have spats and some don't always get along.. that is the nature of people, but I will be kind to everyone and do my best to make this "home" a happy home.
I would never tell anyone else to go to church any more than I would tell them what kind of a home to buy or how to live there lives.
I hope this explains how I feel and I don't want to take away from anything you feel.
For what it's worth, I think you have found the faith that fits you.
I am very happy for you. Not many people do.
Too many go to church to be seen there.
I congratulate you on your finding the right "fit."
None of what I said was meant to be critical of your decision.
I apologize if it appeared that way.
No, not at all and I didnt mean to imply that I even thought you were talking about me. I was just trying to say, well lol its been so long ago that I forgot what I was trying to say.
I was just trying to explain how I felt. I respect your stand also. I would never tell anyone else what to do.
I am still new here and I was just trying to get to know people and to let them know me.
Thank you for your kind reply.
No problem. :biggrin: :biggrin:
I admire your process of starting to think about the universe and the place each of us has in it.
I admire critical thinking of all kinds.
You are a very welcome addition to the forum. :yes: :yes:
Thinking critical. Hmmm. I should probably do more of that myself. ;)
Thanks followsthewolf. I enjoy reading your posts and hearing your ideas. In my mind, there is always room for new ideas.
how much would you pay to save the life of a complete stranger?
situation: you've found a ransom note with clear directions on where to leave the money and when, but the ammount is missing.
you have never met the person, you will never meet the person, and the person will die if you do nothing...
seeing as how I'm flat busted, I reckon the complete stranger will die unless I pass the note on to someone else. I think FTW would part wtih a couple of bucks for a complete stranger, so I'll give the note to him.
I'd definitely shell out more for someone I knew, as opposed to a stranger.
I know that sounds a bit callous, but, how do I know that I wouldn't be saving Charles Dahmer or Adolf Hitler? Could reverse that, and say that I'd be saving the person who found a cure for cancer.
Anyway, what I'd pay is directly dependent on what financial condition my family was in at the time.
Very protective of my family.
Sorry to be a skeptic, but if I'm never to meet the person, how do I know they exist and the note isn't bogus? :confused:
I had that thought too. And was thankful that I am flat busted. :biggrin:
This may sound mean but have you ever been handed a note that says someything like.. I have 10 kids and I am blind... deaf... crippled.. what ever and I need some money. I hate those notes and for some reason they just don't move me. I don't understand why they don't tug at my heart strings but they don't.
Maybe they should try handing one of those notes over to a bank teller and see how far they get.
My understanding was that we were to assume the note was legitimate, and we were to examine our own moral and ethical codes to determine just how dear we hold human life.
And I believe that many of us would, while doing so, entertain the thought that it was fraudulent. It's all part of the hypothetical.
Good point. We live in a fraudulent world.
And Madonna is a "fraudulent girl."
(I know, it's a stretch. :smile:)
LOL, you just keep on stretching. :)
:eek:
eleven replies. not one red cent. pathetic.
Well awol. what about you? how much are you willing to part with ?
any amount i post now would just come under scrutiny by non-believers.
but, for the sake of a figure
$87.53
i could live without cable for a month if it meant someone else lived.
LOL, and that is all this strangers life is worth to you? Let's hope the kidnappers just want to have dinner at Red Lobster or someplace like that. :wink:
you said you couldn't spare a dime, so eat me.
And I will tell you...exactly as I just recently told my guy when he asked me to do the same thing......you don't have the proper equipment for that type of dining.
I'd pay a couple hundred bucks if I knew it was legit. Then if the fella or gal turned out to be an asshole, I'd demand compensation or kill 'em myself.
Quote from: IYT IYT IYT on January 10, 2007, 11:24:40 AM
I'd pay a couple hundred bucks if I knew it was legit. Then if the fella or gal turned out to be an asshole, I'd demand compensation or kill 'em myself.
you know, IYT, i jest loooove you.
funny funny :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
new hypothetical;
would any religion have survived had there been no written language?
hmmm....guess that would depend on just when religion started and how long it was before there was written language. Unless religion started AFTER there was written language. Then again, aren't cave drawings a written language? Seen any religious symbols in them? hmmm....things that make you go...
one directed at the black and white (non)thinkers...
yer all about absolutes are ya?
all for 'home defense'?
how about 'criminal rights'? way against that, right?
soooooooooooo...
let's say lil' poopiehead is coming home for the holidays with his sweetie to surprise you, and loses control of the family truckster on a patch of ice. horrible wreck, he's bruised and battered, but his sweetie is unconscious. his cell phone is in pieces, but there's a farmhouse down the road about a quarter mile, so he hoofs it over. he knocks but there's no answer, cuz ma and pa kettle are makin' a little kettle. he figures nobody's home, he's desperate to get to a phone, and get help, so he shoulders the door.
should pa kettle be totally in his right (and therefore practically obligated) to come downstairs and shoot lil' poopiehead in the chest until he stops twitchin'?
should you be able to sue pa kettle?
no
Quote from: awol on July 06, 2007, 09:02:50 PM
no to which question?
no, poopiehead should not be able to sue pa kettle....
I don't think poopiehead could sue pa kettle. He's no longer twitching.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 06, 2007, 10:32:37 PM
no, poopiehead should not be able to sue pa kettle....
but dontcha think that laws that make it
possible to sue pa kettle might make him hesitate before he splatters lil' poopieheads guts all over the kitchen?