Report: Black boxes show bomb brought down Russian jet
(CNN)European investigators who analyzed the two flight recorders from the Metrojet plane that went down last weekend in Egypt are categorically saying the crash is not an accident, CNN affiliate France 2 reported Friday.
The investigators said the cockpit voice recorder of Metrojet Flight 9268 shows an explosion and the flight data recorder confirms the explosion is not accidental -- there is no sign of mechanical malfunction during the initial part of the flight, France 2 reported.
Everything is fine during the first 24 minutes, then in a fraction of a second there is a blackout and no more cockpit conversation, convincing investigators there was a bomb on board, according to France 2.
CNN Aviation Analyst Richard Quest said there would have been different data on the black boxes if there was a catastrophic failure than if there was an explosion. The key is what happened just before the data suddenly stops, he said.
"It's this split second, and it's a millisecond, where you hear an explosion of some description," he said. "And you see all the parameters (on the recorders) go haywire before the power is completely lost. If this report is accurate, (investigators) have now analyzed that ... heard it and they can identify it."
If the plane had broken apart due to structural failure, there would have been more noise -- and for a longer time, he said.
France's air accident investigation agency, the BEA, told CNN that Egyptian officials will make an announcement about the crash investigation within the next 24 hours.
Meanwhile, an Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman said on Twitter that the Egyptian Ministry of Civil Aviation will hold a new conference at 5 p.m. local time (10 a.m. ET) Saturday. The Foreign Affairs Ministry did not provide any detail about the topic of Saturday's media briefing.
Also Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to suspend Russian air traffic with Egypt until the cause of the crash can be determined, the Kremlin said.
"Putin has accepted the recommendations of the National Anti-Terrorist Committee to suspend flights with Egypt. ... The President has also instructed to provide assistance to Russian citizens to return from Egypt. In addition, the President has instructed to engage with the Egyptian side to ensure the safety of air traffic," the Kremlin said.
The United States and Britain shared their intelligence with Russia concerning the Metrojet crash before Putin made the decision to suspend flights, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told CNN's Matthew Chance late Friday.
Putin spoke with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi about the security situation in Egypt.
"The two leaders agreed to strengthen cooperation between the relevant security authorities in the two countries," el-Sisi's office said. "It was agreed that Russian flights to Egypt would resume at the soonest time possible."
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Looks like the claims by ISIS of downing the jet may have some legitimacy after having been discounted early on. You would think that decades after Pan Am 103, that airport security would be such that it wouldn't be so easy to get a bomb onto an aircraft.
Quote from: Locutus on November 06, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Looks like the claims by ISIS of downing the jet may have some legitimacy after having been discounted early on. You would think that decades after Pan Am 103, that airport security would be such that it wouldn't be so easy to get a bomb onto an aircraft.
This doesn't surprise me. I suspected it from the onset.
Foreign travel is going to take a huge hit. . . :yes:
And I hate to say this, but my money says that Russia steps up its military initiative against ISIS across the board. WWIII begins . . .
Anyone surprised by this? I don't travel know what kind of security they have overseas, but it obviously has holes in it. (I'm sure our security has holes, too.) What does Russia do now?
In this day and time jets usually don't disintegrate in thin air for no reason other than a bomb.
I say Russia will destroy ISIS and large part of Syria in the coming days.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 09, 2015, 09:00:03 AM
In this day and time jets usually don't disintegrate in thin air for no reason other than a bomb.
I say Russia will destroy ISIS and large part of Syria in the coming days.
Yes Sir, I think ISIS has stepped on their dicks. Some years back a terrorist group was attacking Russians citizens torturing and killing them. Then all at once the terrorist where finding their family members dead along the roads with their private parts cut off and shoved into their mouths. :yes: :biggrin: Guess what happened, the terrorist stopped bothering Russian citizens. The word was out that the KGB was doing it. :yes: :laugh:
The Russians can be as brutal as ISIS, they proved that in WWII with the Germans and the Polish. :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on November 09, 2015, 06:09:26 PM
Yes Sir, I think ISIS has stepped on their dicks. . . .
The Russians can be as brutal as ISIS, they proved that in WWII with the Germans and the Polish. :yes:
You are absolutely correct, however I am thinking that the Russians will be subjected to war crime allegations of their own from the international community, should they repeat their WWII atrocities in this day and age.
I do strongly suspect you are correct though, despite the potential ramifications. (And deep down inside I admit to hoping they do go after ISIS with everything they have. . . I know it is morally wrong, but I feel that would be the only way of quelling this scourge upon humanity. And it shouldn't just be Russia administering the "justice" either in my opinion.)
Russia has now confirmed that a bomb brought down the jet. Putin is pissed and will likely step up his strikes against ISIS now..
Quote from: Locutus on November 17, 2015, 12:42:31 PM
Russia has now confirmed that a bomb brought down the jet. Putin is pissed and will likely step up his strikes against ISIS now..
One can only hope, not only that Russia does so, but the world as a whole. That is the ONLY way they will be stopped. Deprive them of life, of ownership of territory, of expansion, and wage endless war via the raining of hell-fire down upon them from afar.
:yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 09, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
You are absolutely correct, however I am thinking that the Russians will be subjected to war crime allegations of their own from the international community, should they repeat their WWII atrocities in this day and age.
I do strongly suspect you are correct though, despite the potential ramifications. (And deep down inside I admit to hoping they do go after ISIS with everything they have. . . I know it is morally wrong, but I feel that would be the only way of quelling this scourge upon humanity. And it shouldn't just be Russia administering the "justice" either in my opinion.)
Do you really think what the Russians care what others have to say about killing ISIS members. After all of the cutting off head of innocent people, killing people because of their religion. Lining up prisoners of war up and killing them. I think not and also do you think the Dutch have enough balls to try the Russian in their so call international court. :haha: This is what I would like to see. :biggrin: