The following is from the Opinion page of yesterday's Washington Post. It is strong stuff from well-respected columnist and Pulitzer Prize winner, Eugene Robinson, who is a black man -- something I would not ordinarily mention up front or at all, except that the person he's writing about is a famous black doctor who, according to Robinson, "truly seems to have lost his mind."
"Opinions
The GOP's scariest candidate
Ben Carson, famed neurosurgeon, running for president
The conservative star has confirmed that he will seek the Republican nomination in 2016.
By Eugene Robinson Opinion writer
October 12 at 7:31 PM
The craziest thing about the Republican presidential contest isn't that Donald Trump is in the lead. It's that Dr. Ben Carson — who truly seems to have lost his mind — is in second place and gaining fast.
Trump may be a blowhard, but Carson has proved himself to be a crackpot of the first order. Of all the GOP contenders, he's the scariest.
"I say this as a longtime admirer of Carson for his stellar medical career. As the head of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Carson not only saved lives in the operating room but also inspired countless young people to overcome rough beginnings and reach for the stars.
That sounds like a cliche, but I've seen the effect Carson has on a room full of low-income African American students when he tells the story of how he escaped a childhood of poverty in Detroit to graduate from Yale University, study medicine at the University of Michigan and become one of the most acclaimed surgeons of our time. Carson's message — if I can do it, so can you — has a powerful impact on young people. I wish he were still delivering it.
Instead, alas, he is running for president. And despite spouting more utter nonsense than the law should allow, Carson has the support of 18 percent of GOP voters, according to the RealClearPolitics poll average — five points behind Trump and miles ahead of the rest of the field.
Carson: Americans need guns to defend themselves against government
Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told CBS's "Face the Nation" that Americans need to be armed in case "we have the wrong people in office." (Reuters)
Carson speaks softly, slowly, thoughtfully. Much of what he says, however, is dangerously wrong.
His most recent burst of blather was over gun control in the wake of the Oregon massacre. As recently as Sunday, on "Face the Nation," Carson was defending his assertion that the Holocaust would have been "greatly diminished" if Jews had been able to keep firearms in their homes. Gun control laws enacted by the Nazi regime, he contends, were a prelude to genocide.
To say that experts disagree is an understatement. As Jonathan Greenblatt, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, wrote in the Huffington Post: "It is mind-bending to suggest that personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany's Jews (about 214,000 remaining in Germany in 1938) could have stopped the totalitarian onslaught of Nazi Germany when the armies of Poland, France, Belgium and numerous other countries were overwhelmed by the Third Reich."
Greenblatt added that it is "wholly inappropriate and offensive" to "manipulate the history of the Holocaust and use it to score political points."
It is equally beyond the pale, in my view, for Carson to have written on Facebook that while he saw the horror of gun violence as a youth in Detroit and as a doctor in emergency rooms, "I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away." Or to have implicitly criticized the victims in Oregon by saying that "I would not just stand there and let him shoot me," stating that people who find themselves in such circumstances should rush the gunman.
Carson's story of a personal encounter with firearms is just weird. "I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeyes organization," he told an interviewer, referring to the fried chicken chain. "Guy comes in, put the gun in my ribs. And I just said, 'I believe that you want the guy behind the counter.' "
It is unclear what happened next. And it is unclear to me, frankly, that this really happened, though Carson swears it did. For one thing, Carson is a vegetarian; his campaign says he went to Popeyes for french fries. I wonder if he also goes to KFC to get coleslaw.
Carson defends stance on guns and Holocaust
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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson defended comments that the Holocaust would have been "greatly diminished" if the Jewish people had been armed. (Reuters)
Disturbingly, Carson is a fan of dark conspiracies. Witness his claim that Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Russian President Vladimir Putin got to know each other in Moscow in 1968. All of them, he claims, were at Patrice Lumumba University at the time. PolitiFact looked into the matter and found one meager shred of evidence that Abbas might have attended the university, though no indication of when; zero evidence that Khamenei ever studied in Moscow; and the inconvenient fact that Putin was 16 at the time. PolitiFact's verdict: "Pants on Fire!"
Carson has compared the Affordable Care Act to slavery. He has called President Obama a psychopath. He disbelieves established science on evolution and climate change.
I could go on and on, but I struggle to keep up with the good doctor's mouth."
Eugene Robinson writes a twice-a-week column on politics and culture, contributes to the PostPartisan blog, and hosts a weekly online chat with readers. In a three-decade career at The Post, Robinson has been city hall reporter, city editor, foreign correspondent in Buenos Aires and London, foreign editor, and assistant managing editor in charge of the paper's Style section.
Read more from Eugene Robinson's archive, follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his updates on Facebook. You can also join him Tuesdays at 1 p.m. for a live Q&A.
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First of all, I am trying very hard to getting into any political debates on here, for it is worthless....
BUT,
Eugene Robinson is a liberal and this is nothing more than a HIT PIECE on Carson....based upon his OPINION. Which happens to be wrong...
Carson is very, very correct with his comments about guns. It is based upon what our Forefathers feared enough to make it a 2nd Amendment in our Constitution.
He is also getting knocked around for making a very interesting comment about Hitler have a much less chance, HAD the people their been armed.
The citizens of Germany had been disarmed by their very own government in the late 1930s. By the mid 40s, Hitler and his regime had slaughtered over six million Jews and several other citizens whom they considered "inferior".
All by making laws, to have guns removed from innocent citizens, the Nazis were able to carry out their evilness with very little resistance.
THAT is a very truthful FACT not an opinion. So, I am on Carson's side when he says "Americans need guns to defend themselves against government"....there is NOT ONE DAMN THING WRONG WITH THAT STATEMENT...
That so-called small group of ARMED Citizens may have very well been enough, to make some of those cowardly NAZI BASTARDS to rethink their EVIL INTENTIONS.
Of coarse we will NEVER KNOW, because the REGIME got their way by disarming its citizens.
But this DICKHEAED Robinson, is doing NOTHING but propagating his UN-truthful opinion to try to sway people against Carson.
Carson is merely demanding that we must NOT ever allow ourselves to be disarmed....OR....well, we KNOW what happened and that could happen again.
My 2 cents. :yes:
I'm guessing you didn't take the time to actually research the history of gun control laws in Germany before you posted this ridiculous tripe.
Then, of course, there's the whole subject of how completely ineffective personal firearms would be against the largest and best equipped military on the planet...another ridiculous assertion. :rolleyes:
Carson's a whack job...that's a fact.
Ben Carson is just another 9-9-9. :haha: :haha: Just the man for the Bird Boy. :yes: :haha: :haha:
You all are just being racist.
Quote from: Exterminator on October 14, 2015, 02:35:53 PM
Carson's a whack job...that's a fact.
Racist!! c'mon, just admit it!
You're idiots; c'mon, just admit it! :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on October 15, 2015, 08:19:10 AM
You're idiots; c'mon, just admit it! :biggrin:
No, no....I do believe it is YOU whom the idiocy lies.... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 15, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
No, no....I do believe it is YOU whom the idiocy lies.... :yes:
...says the guy who can't form a cohesive sentence.
Quote from: Exterminator on October 15, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
...says the guy who can't form a cohesive sentence.
He speaks the truth though. You are racist as well as an idiot.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
Quote from: Exterminator on October 15, 2015, 11:56:39 AM
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
Isaac was spot on when he said that. It's demonstrated here almost daily, and sadly, this is a microcosm of society as a whole.
Quote from: Locutus on October 15, 2015, 12:43:45 PM
Isaac was spot on when he said that. It's demonstrated here almost daily, and sadly, this is a microcosm of society as a whole.
:yes:
I couldn't agree more.... :yes:
OK, y'all, and especially you, HH. let's see what you think about the following, written by another black columnist, who decided to visit Johns Hopkins. From today's Washington Post:
At Johns Hopkins, there's little to show Ben Carson worked there
By Courtland Milloy Columnist October 27 at 7:19 PM
During a recent visit to Johns Hopkins Children's Center in Baltimore, I expected to find some kind of tribute to Ben Carson. After all, before he became a GOP candidate for president, he'd reigned as king of pediatric neurosurgery at the venerable institution for 29 years.
Perhaps I'd discover a mural in the lobby depicting Carson's hands, reaching from the clouds, healing children around the world. "Gifted Hands," as in the title of his autobiography. Or "God-guided hands," as he calls them on the campaign trail.
Not there.
Maybe there would be a "Gentle Ben" doctor doll in the gift shop.
Not there, either.
I began asking employees and even visitors whether Hopkins was showing proper respect to the acclaimed brain surgeon. A receptionist looked at me as if I'd lost my mind.
Most of the people I talked to were African American, like Carson. And nearly all of them were as socioeconomically conservative as Carson. They, too, expressed an ardent belief in hard work, personal responsibility, a loyalty to family and, above all, faith in God.
Such a group might have been easy pickings for a Republican Party looking to become more racially diverse. But not a GOP that continues to move closer to the far right and backs policies that seemingly do more harm than good to America's black citizens.
For a different view of Carson, I called Reginald Davis and Donlin Long, neurosurgeons who were on the team that in 1987 pioneered the first successful separation of twins conjoined at the head. That was the case that made Carson famous.
"Ben is like a brother to me, and Donlin is our neurosurgical father," explained Davis, who is director of research at the Laser Spine Institute in Tampa. He went on to say: "Some of what comes out of Ben's mouth, I might not have said it that way. But the feelings behind it are sincere, and there is usually a kernel of truth to it.
"
Carson's personal journey — from black kid raised in a Detroit ghetto to world-famous brain surgeon — had been so compelling that few ever learned that Davis, chief resident of neurosurgery at the time, is also black.
Despite Carson's effort to share the limelight, he ended up getting virtually all of the credit while the 70-member team he led was all but forgotten. One man, perceived by millions to have accomplished with a single pair of "gifted hands" what could only have been done by a multitude of medical experts.
Had that ego-boosting narrative fermented delusions of being leader of the free world?
"Ben is not the typical neurosurgeon with a very large ego," said Long, a retired chief of neurosurgery at Hopkins now in private practice in Lutherville, Md.
"If his story was being promoted, it did not come from him. Not only were African Americans anxious to have a hero like Ben, I think lots of Americans were anxious to see his success as a sign that years of injustice were being addressed and we were really doing something to allow African Americans to accomplish what they were able to accomplish."
Maybe Carson no longer wanted to be seen as "having been allowed" to do anything. Too liberal, perhaps, too much credit owed to affirmative action. "A person can do anything on his own" has become the mantra of the most fervent members of the GOP. All it takes is guts, guns and God.
On the second floor of the hospital, a "milestones in medicine" timeline stretches along a hallway wall. I finally came across a tribute to Carson. It was a small photo located on the bottom of the timeline, in a row set aside for people who had received awards.
Most other surgeons had larger photographs accompanying citations of their pioneering work. There's one of Levi Watkins, for instance, an African American heart surgeon who, in 1980, "introduces a surgical procedure that will save the lives of hundreds of thousands of people."
I asked an African American couple perusing the timeline if they thought that Carson's photograph ought to be enlarged. The woman held up a hand, thumb and index fingers about a half-inch a part.
"Smaller," she said.
Funny thing about this thread is that Carson has jumped to the top spot in a lot of national Republican polls since Libby first started it. :rolleyes:
Scary.
It seems to me the article CLEARLY suggests that those at Johns Hopkins are extremely biased and politically motivated by the left. The question in my mind jumps out...why ISN'T Carson celebrated by Hopkins?
Carson's story is a tremendous one....
If Carson was a democrat, I would only imagine that there would be statues and portraits of him all over that place.....
Some one suggested he had a "God Complex", and maybe he did, does, I really don't know. I haven't heard anything to come from his mouth that would indicate this. I haven't read anything that suggests this.
I see a man, who is extremely intelligent, who is concerned about the path this nation is going down. I believe he feels he can turn this country around in the right direction. He is a man who is extremely articulate and who thinks about what he wants to say carefully before he speaks. How refreshing! A leader, who has enough knowledge to assimilate intelligent people around him, to give him advice, to do the right things to become a strong POTUS.
I am a huge fan of Mr. Carson.
The reason he is jumping to near the top of many polls is that finally people are getting a chance to actually listen to him, and not the media trying to demonize him, like they LOVE to do to anybody, who is conservative.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2015, 08:07:07 AM
I am a huge fan of Mr. Carson.
That would be DOCTOR Carson to you, peasant! And if you ever got a chance to talk to him in person, he would quickly remind you of that.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2015, 08:07:07 AM
It seems to me the article CLEARLY suggests that those at Johns Hopkins are extremely biased and politically motivated by the left. The question in my mind jumps out...why ISN'T Carson celebrated by Hopkins?
Carson's story is a tremendous one....
If Carson was a democrat, I would only imagine that there would be statues and portraits of him all over that place.....
Some one suggested he had a "God Complex", and maybe he did, does, I really don't know. I haven't heard anything to come from his mouth that would indicate this. I haven't read anything that suggests this.
I see a man, who is extremely intelligent, who is concerned about the path this nation is going down. I believe he feels he can turn this country around in the right direction. He is a man who is extremely articulate and who thinks about what he wants to say carefully before he speaks. How refreshing! A leader, who has enough knowledge to assimilate intelligent people around him, to give him advice, to do the right things to become a strong POTUS.
I am a huge fan of Mr. Carson.
The reason he is jumping to near the top of many polls is that finally people are getting a chance to actually listen to him, and not the media trying to demonize him, like they LOVE to do to anybody, who is conservative.
Hey Bird Boy, I'll bet you a $100 that your Doctor O0 won't win shit after they catch on to how "SLOW" and stupid he really is. :haha: :haha: He's as slow as you are. :mama:
Quote from: The Troll on October 29, 2015, 07:54:23 PM
Hey Bird Boy, I'll bet you a $100 that your Doctor won't win shit after they catch on to how "SLOW" and stupid he really is. He's as slow as you are.
He will never get the nomination. The conservative base is primarily comprised of uneducated, aging, rural, white voters who will
never vote for a person of color and the Republican establishment knows it.
I have never been around a bunch "hateful" people like you guys.......talk about afraid. ;D
The liberals I know are the most hateful and rude people I know....that is a fact. :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 30, 2015, 08:59:10 AM
I have never been around a bunch "hateful" people like you guys.......talk about afraid.
Afraid of what, exactly?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 30, 2015, 10:26:41 AM
Conservatives.
Well, I guess that's true. We're afraid of you crashing the economy again, of passing laws based on your warped religious fantasies, of destroying the planet, of starting unnecessary wars and of just overall douchebaggery.
We are exactly the same. Both want what is best. You are just as dramatic to think as you do and you claim I do.
Except you are hateful about it. :yes:
btw,
I know nothing good is going to follow this post....but had to say it.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 30, 2015, 12:32:07 PM
We are exactly the same. Both want what is best. You are just as dramatic to think as you do and you claim I do.
Except you are hateful about it. :yes:
btw,
I know nothing good is going to follow this post....but had to say it.
I don't even know what this post says. :confused:
see! :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2015, 08:07:07 AM
It seems to me the article CLEARLY suggests that those at Johns Hopkins are extremely biased and politically motivated by the left. The question in my mind jumps out...why ISN'T Carson celebrated by Hopkins?
Carson's story is a tremendous one....
If Carson was a democrat, I would only imagine that there would be statues and portraits of him all over that place.....
Some one suggested he had a "God Complex", and maybe he did, does, I really don't know. I haven't heard anything to come from his mouth that would indicate this. I haven't read anything that suggests this.
I see a man, who is extremely intelligent, who is concerned about the path this nation is going down. I believe he feels he can turn this country around in the right direction. He is a man who is extremely articulate and who thinks about what he wants to say carefully before he speaks. How refreshing! A leader, who has enough knowledge to assimilate intelligent people around him, to give him advice, to do the right things to become a strong POTUS.
I am a huge fan of Mr. Carson.
The reason he is jumping to near the top of many polls is that finally people are getting a chance to actually listen to him, and not the media trying to demonize him, like they LOVE to do to anybody, who is conservative.
Really? Henry, would you like to ... uh, er, restate some, most of what you wrote above? If you have been watching your hero in action you're either too embarrassed or in denial.
I waited this long to answer you because, although I was offended by your dismissal of not only Johns Hopkins the institution, but also the personnel, past and present, from physician to cleaning lady, who had the audacity to NOT be praising one of their own who took a different path (God and politics) :confused:).
I also took what you wrote personally because I recently had the good luck to have a doctor who ... well, read on:
Not long ago I saw my doctor, an Internist/Dermatologist, about a troublesome place on my forehead above my right eye, and he said he wanted to refer me to someone else. When I learned the location of his office -- in a busy area of Northern Virginia about an hour from my home -- I asked if he could refer me to someone closer, and he said, "No. He's the best in the field. Call him now. Make an appointment. Today." I did, and got an appointment 4 weeks hence.
Turned out he's a Johns Hopkins specialist who was chosen for the University of Pennsylvania's prestigious fellowship training in MOHS Micrographic Surgery and all other aspects of dermatologic surgery. He is a Fellow of ACMS who has his own Outpatient Surgical Hospital. My visit was preceded by a package with complete instructions on how to get there, what to expect, before, during, and after.
(I think we are all familiar with what surgery in a busy hospital is like, so I prayed and shivered and expected (what?) :spooked: and was completely surprised. No pain medication. Just a quick sensation of cold. And then,
there we were, me, the Doctor (who was introduced to me earlier) and his assistant.
During the surgery, the Doctor and nurse chatted with me, explained what was being done, asked me questions about my background, my work, if I had any questions, etc. Then I was taken to a patient waiting room where there were snacks and drinks, and the most :smile: interesting thing of all happened: the Doctor & Assistant walked in with a pleasant overweight smiling woman, and introduced her as someone whose husband (also :biggrin: a patient) was from Princeton, W.VA) and stayed a minute or two to chat with us!
Oh well, HH, I've strayed from the original subject, but I think you get the idea.
What in the hell makes Trump think he's so special that he should get $5mil to do a debate anyway. If I even had a remote idea of voting for him it's certainly gone now. :rant: :mad:
Quote from: me on December 02, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
What in the hell makes Trump think he's so special that he should get $5mil to do a debate anyway. If I even had a remote idea of voting for him it's certainly gone now. :rant: :mad:
He isn't going to get a penny.... CNN is going to make a TON of money from the debate..........he wants the $5 MILL to go to veterans groups. And like it or not, the viewership is UP because of Trump. I think he has a very valid point and a GREAT idea.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/09/media/donald-trump-letter-to-cnn/
Quote from: me on December 02, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
What in the hell makes Trump think he's so special that he should get $5mil to do a debate anyway. If I even had a remote idea of voting for him it's certainly gone now. :rant: :mad:
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Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 02, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
He isn't going to get a penny.... CNN is going to make a TON of money from the debate..........he wants the $5 MILL to go to veterans groups. And like it or not, the viewership is UP because of Trump. I think he has a very valid point and a GREAT idea.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/09/media/donald-trump-letter-to-cnn/
A microcosm of the party itself! 😁
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 02, 2015, 12:12:27 PM
He isn't going to get a penny.... CNN is going to make a TON of money from the debate..........he wants the $5 MILL to go to veterans groups. And like it or not, the viewership is UP because of Trump. I think he has a very valid point and a GREAT idea.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/09/media/donald-trump-letter-to-cnn/
My problem with it mostly is the fact we have a POTUS now who's a narcsistace we sure don't need another one.
Quote from: me on December 02, 2015, 01:25:12 PM
My problem with it mostly is the fact we have a POTUS now who's a narcsistace we sure don't need another one.
LMAO! WTF?
:rolleyes: No, our President is not a narcissist. He is a lawyer and a gentleman, and, as Dr. Charles Krauthammer (R), one of Obama's fiercest critics, said before he was elected POTUS, he has the intellect to be President.
Quote from: libby on December 02, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
:rolleyes: No, our President is not a narcissist. He is a lawyer and a gentleman, and, as Dr. Charles Krauthammer (R), one of Obama's fiercest critics, said before he was elected POTUS, he has the intellect to be President.
Then you haven't been paying attention. He is very much an egotist. He thinks he has all the answers and listens to no one and then blames everyone else when things go wrong.
:roll eyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on December 03, 2015, 08:46:22 AM
I know; right?
Hahaha, oh my!! The funniest of that comment!!
Quote from: Exterminator on December 03, 2015, 08:46:22 AM
I know; right?
I couldn't even find adequate words to respond to tripe like that.
Quote from: Locutus on December 03, 2015, 09:03:23 AM
I couldn't even find adequate words to respond to tripe like that.
Me neither.
Quote from: me on December 02, 2015, 01:25:12 PM
My problem with it mostly is the fact we have a POTUS now who's a narcsistace we sure don't need another one.
Quote from: libby on December 02, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
:rolleyes: No, our President is not a narcissist. He is a lawyer and a gentleman, and, as Dr. Charles Krauthammer (R), one of Obama's fiercest critics, said before he was elected POTUS, he has the intellect to be President.
Quote from: me on December 03, 2015, 01:36:51 AM
Then you haven't been paying attention. He is very much an egotist. He thinks he has all the answers and listens to no one and then blames everyone else when things go wrong.
:rolleyes: OK. So you're saying our President is a
narcsistace narcissistic egotist?
Quote from: libby on December 03, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
:rolleyes: OK. So you're saying our President is a narcsistace narcissistic egotist?
If the shoe fits...and it does....very well.
Quote from: me on December 03, 2015, 12:40:44 PM
If the shoe fits...and it does....very well.
Now you're a psychologist?
Quote from: Exterminator on December 03, 2015, 02:45:56 PM
Now you're a psycho logist?
There ... that's better. :smile:
Quote from: Exterminator on December 03, 2015, 02:45:56 PM
Now you're a psychologist?
Like HH says, I must have hit the nail on the head since ya'll are now going for the personal attack.
Quote from: me on December 03, 2015, 07:33:16 PM
Like HH says, I must have hit the nail on the head since ya'll are now going for the personal attack.
Not at all. I kinda feel sorry for republicans. How embarrassing it must be to watch/listen to the top 2 republican candidates: Donald Trump (just try to imagine him as POTUS :eek:), and Dr. Carson, who apparently has not yet figured out that being able to perform surgery with a team of others assisting does not qualify him to run a country. He apparently is convinced God will tell him what to say and do when presented with foreign policy decisions and all that other stuff :rolleyes: that presidents do.
Quote from: libby on December 03, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
Not at all. I kinda feel sorry for republicans. How embarrassing it must be to watch/listen to the top 2 republican candidates: Donald Trump (just try to imagine him as POTUS :eek:), and Dr. Carson, who apparently has not yet figured out that being able to perform surgery with a team of others assisting does not qualify him to run a country. He apparently is convinced God will tell him what to say and do when presented with foreign policy decisions and all that other stuff :rolleyes: that presidents do.
Actually, I think Carson is still waiting to see if the grain is in the pyramids.
Quote from: libby on December 03, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
Not at all. I kinda feel sorry for republicans. How embarrassing it must be to watch/listen to the top 2 republican candidates: Donald Trump (just try to imagine him as POTUS :eek:), and Dr. Carson, who apparently has not yet figured out that being able to perform surgery with a team of others assisting does not qualify him to run a country. He apparently is convinced God will tell him what to say and do when presented with foreign policy decisions and all that other stuff :rolleyes: that presidents do.
And being a community organizer does?????
Quote from: me on December 03, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
And being a community organizer does?????
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on December 03, 2015, 08:59:26 PM
Actually, I think Carson is still waiting to see if the grain is in the pyramids.
:biggrin:
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on December 03, 2015, 08:59:26 PM
Actually, I think Carson is still waiting to see if the grain is in the pyramids.
Hold on Lady, they think they found another room in King Tut's vault. Maybe that's where the grain is. :wink: :haha:
Quote from: me on December 03, 2015, 07:33:16 PM
Like HH says, I must have hit the nail on the head since ya'll are now going for the personal attack.
Or maybe your comments are simply so asinine they don't warrant any other response?
Quote from: The Troll on December 04, 2015, 10:46:30 AM
Hold on Lady, they think they found another room in King Tut's vault. Maybe that's where the grain is. :wink: :haha:
Hahaha. Troll, possibly so.
Quote from: libby on December 03, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
Not at all. I kinda feel sorry for republicans. How embarrassing it must be to watch/listen to the top 2 republican candidates: Donald Trump (just try to imagine him as POTUS :eek:), and Dr. Carson, who apparently has not yet figured out that being able to perform surgery with a team of others assisting does not qualify him to run a country. He apparently is convinced God will tell him what to say and do when presented with foreign policy decisions and all that other stuff :rolleyes: that presidents do.
Quote from: me on December 03, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
And being a community organizer does?????
:rolleyes: Obama was a community organizer before he got his law degree.
Quote from: libby on December 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM
:rolleyes: Obama was a community organizer before he got his law degree.
Explained to them countless times over the last 7 years. They still don't get it and never will. I know people that achieved doctoral degrees within a shorter amount of time! :biggrin:
Holy shit! He's number one again! Number one scariest candidate, that is ...
http://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/ (http://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/)
Quote from: Bo D on December 10, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
Holy shit! He's number one again! Number one scariest candidate, that is ...
http://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/ (http://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/)
Yep! :spooked:
Quote from: Bo D on December 10, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
Holy shit! He's number one again! Number one scariest candidate, that is ...
http://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/ (http://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-shut-internet/)
How is he even REMOTELY scarier than Hillary Clinton??? I will answer that.....HE IS NOT! Not even CLOSE.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 11, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
How is he even REMOTELY scarier than Hillary Clinton??? I will answer that.....HE IS NOT! Not even CLOSE.
Seriously?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 11, 2015, 11:11:22 AM
As a FREAKIN heart attack!
Well, you're a special kind of stupid then. :rolleyes:
And by the way, your boy signed a loyalty pledge to the GOP on September 3 saying that he would not run as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination and yesterday he threatened to do just that so he's a f'ing liar too!
Quote from: Exterminator on December 11, 2015, 01:01:10 PM
And by the way, your boy signed a loyalty pledge to the GOP on September 3 saying that he would not run as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination and yesterday he threatened to do just that so he's a f'ing liar too!
I never believed Trump when he signed that pledge anyway. His ego is just too big.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 11, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
Well, you're a special kind of stupid then. :rolleyes:
And the
scariest thing is that he and countless other Trump supporters believe that Hillary is scarier than Trump.
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YES!!!!!!
Quote from: libby on December 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM
:rolleyes: Obama was a community organizer before he got his law degree.
And so????? How may years did he actually practice law after he got his degree? By that I mean in a law firm or his own office not by going into politics.
Like Stephen King is a voice of reason and normalcy? He is a great writer, but he is NOT a person that normal people seek advice from.....so....yeah.
Quote from: Locutus on December 11, 2015, 01:03:42 PM
And the scariest thing is that he and countless other Trump supporters believe that Hillary is scarier than Trump.
IMO they're equally as scary but for different reasons.
Hillary is only scary because we're going to have to listen to that voice for at least four years! :biggrin:
This is the final paragraph in an article on CNN this morning, the title of which is "Know whose ideas about Muslims are scarier than Trump's?" It fits in quite well with the meme that Ex posted above about the ugly underbelly of conservatives in America today. Here is the paragraph:
Trump has become one-stop shopping for the far-right. He may lose this election, but he has shown the country something important about itself: that the greatest threat to America, as we know it, may not be foreign threats but un-American ideologies right here at home.
This is the link to the entire thing is anyone wants to read it. It's quite scary when you look at the beliefs of the majority of Trump supporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/opinions/obeidallah-trump-muslims/index.html
Quote from: Exterminator on December 11, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
Hillary is only scary because we're going to have to listen to that voice for at least four years! :biggrin:
:biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 11, 2015, 01:31:51 PM
Like Stephen King is a voice of reason and normalcy? He is a great writer, but he is NOT a person that normal people seek advice from.....so....yeah.
And Trump is any different? Seriously?
What's his qualifications surrounding his candidacy for the position of Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces of this Nation?
Do you seriously believe he gives one damn about anyone other than himself and other millionaires in this country?
Do you for one second believe he can get any one item on his long list of tripe through congress any faster, and quicker, and at a higher success rate that the sitting POTUS has done over the last 7 years? (If so you are clearly delusional and need to take five or six steps away from that pitcher of kool-aid you're chugging from).
The only reason our sitting POTUS has not been more successful than he has been is because he refused to join the good ol' boy network in congress. (And racism but we'll table that as it has been discussed beyond reason).
The reality is that is exactly how it goes for any newly elected POTUS. S/he runs on a platform that gains popularity with the voting public, and then once they get elected they spend the first 6 weeks of their time in office being "taken aside" and informed how things really work.
Show me a successful presidency and I'll show you an individual that joined the good ol' boys network. (Either that or they spent their term(s) in office fighting congress and using executive orders to get the job done).
Trump is an Assclown. A side show freak that is doing nothing more than proving P.T.' s ". . there's one born every minute. . " to be nothing but the unabashed truth so many decades after he first uttered the phrase.
This nation is full of sheep. Chock full of them. And Trump proves it.
Myself, I agree with disqualifying him over his stance on immigration.
I have a response and will do so, but I am still at the hospital and it would take me forever to respond from my iPhone .... But I will indeed respond.