Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 26, 2015, 06:54:05 PM
Yet. I can about guarantee that if you ever needed one or had something happen, you would be calling them! You can be an ass all you want but the fact remains that many who have been shot by cops were breaking the law!
Your damn right I'd call them, that's their job. That is why I pay taxes. You're the ass when you say that it is all right to kill an unarmed person. Running is not a capital murder offense. You're the people who have cause all of the bad cop killing by defending them. :doh: :dizzy2: :mooning: :kooks:
Nobody has said it it alright to kill an unarmed person. But, you act as if this is a problem that is out of control. It happens, and if and when it does, we need to throw the book at those guys. Cops are by and large, FANTASTIC human beings.
It sickens me to read comments like the Troll leaves....I find it very disturbing that people actually think that way.
Quote from: The Troll on April 26, 2015, 09:44:56 PM
Your damn right I'd call them, that's their job. That is why I pay taxes. You're the ass when you say that it is all right to kill an unarmed person. Running is not a capital murder offense. You're the people who have cause all of the bad cop killing by defending them. :doh: :dizzy2: :mooning: :kooks:
Where have I ever said that it is right for police to kill an unarmed person? I haven't and I never will but some of the ones who have been killed and tased were breaking the law and aiming to kill law officers. You pay taxes just like I do but that doesn't mean that any person whether they are law officers, fire personnel, garbage workers or street sweepers deserve to be abused and mistreated by the public.
If one of those kids wreaking havok in Baltimore were mine they would be grounded 'til they were 50. That is unreal and totally uncalled for. :rant: :rant: :mad:
Quote from: me on April 27, 2015, 06:17:52 PM
If one of those kids wreaking havok in Baltimore were mine they would be grounded 'til they were 50. That is unreal and totally uncalled for. :rant: :rant: :mad:
Yes, and I have heard that the two gangs the Bloods and the Crips are out to kill the cops!
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 27, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
Yes, and I have heard that the two gangs the Bloods and the Crips are out to kill the cops!
Yep, it started when school let out and the biggest part of the people there are teenagers.
Quote from: me on April 27, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
Yep, it started when school let out and the biggest part of the people there are teenagers.
If my son tried something like that: he would not be able to sit down for a long while!
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 27, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
Yes, and I have heard that the two gangs the Bloods and the Crips are out to kill the cops!
Is this like you 'heard' Willie Nelson was dead? :razz:
The media is reporting the two gangs hunting police officers thing. The reports I have seen or read indicate the rioting began immediately following the funeral for the guy that died due to his injuries while in custody. . . But of course they showed video of what appears to be youths throwing projectiles, etc.
That being said, it's just another excuse for the looting and pillaging of businesses in the community; with CVS looted and burning among scores of others. Next they'll be carping because there is no where to obtain the necessities required to live. . .
While I can certainly understand and sympathize with the whole police brutality claim and the civil disobedience they feel the need to undertake in protest of same, I'll never understand this whole looting and rioting mentality. . . It's nothing more than punishing those who had no hand in what happened, and likely feel just as frustrated over this national scourge that seems to be escalating.
Quote from: Locutus on April 27, 2015, 07:01:52 PM
Is this like you 'heard' Willie Nelson was dead? :razz:
Hahaha. The one of the Bloods and Crops, I heard on the news but don't remember which news told it as I had it on the radio when it was told about this!
Just making an observation, but I am almost certain, that those "Thugs" that are destroying a city, are NOT REPUBLICANS..........and more than likely are going to vote democrat.
Not making this out to anything other than an observation.... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 28, 2015, 08:09:57 AM
Just making an observation, but I am almost certain, that those "Thugs" that are destroying a city, are NOT REPUBLICANS..........and more than likely are going to vote democrat.
Not making this out to anything other than an observation.... :yes:
Of all the inane things you have posted, this has to be the stupidest.
Quote from: Bo D on April 28, 2015, 09:25:23 AM
Of all the inane things you have posted, this has to be the stupidest.
I am NOT disagreeing with you on that, but it IS an observation, that is probably true.
I don't think political parties matter when destroying a city. Most of the thugs probably don't even vote! I did get a laugh out of the one lady who was smacking her son for being involved in the violence! We need more parents like her!
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 27, 2015, 06:53:26 PM
If my son tried something like that: he would not be able to sit down for a long while!
This Baltimore mother is more like most of the good people there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlmCf1Kj2o&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlmCf1Kj2o&feature=player_embedded)
Quote from: Bo D on April 28, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
This Baltimore mother is more like most of the good people there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlmCf1Kj2o&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlmCf1Kj2o&feature=player_embedded)
Yes, she is! My thoughts are regardless of skin color, you act like a thug, break the law, you get what you deserve! With that being said, I don't want to see anyone get killed but if one has to protect themselves regardless of whether they are a law officer or not, then that person should protect themselves from those who want to cause harm!
I was home yesterday, and watched it unfold on different channels. I only have one observation: I understand why the police held back, didn't try to stop the thugs. That said much much more than trying to chase them down, or stop the looting and trashing and burning of police cars, and it showed more respect for the mourning family in funeral services just a few blocks away. There was an incredible amount of looting -- one channel's news team followed them around, keeping their distance while filming them running in and out, especially the CVS, with what appeared to be garbage bags full of their loot. One 'young lady' was caught in almost a full frontal view as she scurried along with two full bags -- didn't have a clue she was being filmed. Another team filmed some looters with a sack full of what appeared to be drugs taken from the CVS.
Quote from: Bo D on April 28, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
This Baltimore mother is more like most of the good people there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlmCf1Kj2o&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlmCf1Kj2o&feature=player_embedded)
I LOVE THAT MOTHER!!! (Not trying to sound repulsive)....Seriously, THAT is fantastic! More parents need to respond harshly to their kids who was involved in this.....very, very cool. This video made my day...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 28, 2015, 08:09:57 AM
Just making an observation, but I am almost certain, that those "Thugs" that are destroying a city, are NOT REPUBLICANS..........and more than likely are going to vote democrat.
Not making this out to anything other than an observation.... :yes:
That is nothing more than speculation fueled by whatever news source you've chosen to use to learn about what happened in Baltimore, and their own personal spin on the whole debacle.
What I find more telling surrounding all of this is the fact that there were DAYS of peaceful protesting that preceded what took place last night, and nowhere near the level of coverage of that was undertaken. Not until miscreants, fueled by the inflammatory statements and words spoken by those with nefarious intention, took it upon themselves to rape and pillage the businesses and community did we start seeing wide-spread and televised coverage of the matter.
I walked into a local establishment here on my way home from work, and it was on the big screen tv there. I at first thought it was coverage of yet another disaster in a third world country until I saw the crawler on the video. I just shook my head in disgust as the cashier rang up my purchase, and left for home.
There is no excuse for such destructive behavior in such situations.
This morning I was "treated" to an on screen rant undertaken by Ray Rice, and all I could think of was in what reality did he think his approach and demeanor were going to have any kind of impact upon those who were the root cause of what took place yesterday? He is a thug himself! (And needs to count himself lucky if the "gangs" alleged to have plans to kill police officials don't make him a a target too!)
Then there's the MLB game being played to NO fans tomorrow night against the Chicago White Sox. WTF?! They've already cancelled two games against the White Sox there, so why don't they just fly to Chicago and play a double-header one day and the third game the next, and let Chicago's fans have the opportunity to see the two teams play, and generate some damn revenue instead of just statistics? :roll eyes:
Then there's the stuff the media does not show us that took place.
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Here's a kid handing out water to the police, and others handing out sandwiches as well. . .
They're NOT all thugs, but the thugs are making life exponentially difficult for everyone. . . :mad:
Agreed PH!!
The media never shows the people who do good or the law officers who also do good!
"If our society really wanted to solve the problem, we could; it's just that it would require everybody saying, 'this is important; this is significant.' And, that we don't just pay attention to these communities when a CVS burns, and we don't just pay attention when a young man gets shot or has his spine snapped, but we're paying attention all the time because we consider those kids our kids." —President Obama on the situation in Baltimore:
:yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 28, 2015, 05:46:23 PM
"If our society really wanted to solve the problem, we could; it's just that it would require everybody saying, 'this is important; this is significant.' And, that we don't just pay attention to these communities when a CVS burns, and we don't just pay attention when a young man gets shot or has his spine snapped, but we're paying attention all the time because we consider those kids our kids." —President Obama on the situation in Baltimore:
:yes: :yes: :yes:
This approach also needs to include the media! (And the following are the words of one of my sisters in reply to my posting of the above within social media)
QuotePalehorse's Sister:
We are still responsible for our actions to some degree. Cities should not burn. No excuses. That being said, the media is so much of the problem. They sensationalize so much and do not focus on the right things. They are no longer objective at a time when individuals consume information too readily, not checking facts, and without thinking critically. As a society, we must demand the honest, non accusatory dialogues on diversity, race, and gender issues and most of all this serious and tragic trending we've seen that is stereotyping. Furthermore we must demand objective, non sensationalistic reporting from our media. They must not be used as a source for any information without validation.
And....this isn't simply a race issue. It's also a power and socio-economic issue to some degree. Very complex. So let's not over simplify in ANY way, but address each piece. I'm also concerned at the negativity and stereotyping occurring (within and toward) our law enforcement and military. These people lay their asses in the line EVERYDAY. They see ugly, ugly things. It is not surprising the(y) succumb to issues of profiling and stereotyping. We must SUPPORT them, giving them the tools they need to do the job we value so highly--or should value.
I couldn't agree any stronger with every word you posted sis. Your thoughts parallel my own on this!
First of all my comment was said tongue and cheek, just taking a jovial stab at my liberal buddies here.
Secondly, I agree with the horses sisters remarks, spot on!
Thirdly, I think the mayor of Baltimore is a real idiot
And lastly, I think the vast majority of those in Baltimore are good people, like in most cities across this land....it just takes a few morons to create a bad image. I have witnessed this too many times.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 28, 2015, 07:00:55 PM
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Thirdly, I think the mayor of Baltimore is a real idiot
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No question there! What a jackwagon! :mad:
I agree with your sister also PH!!
The part of the Baltimore protests you haven't seen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/28/baltimore-protests-peaceful/26510645/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/28/baltimore-protests-peaceful/26510645/)
http://mic.com/articles/116702/10-images-of-the-baltimore-riots-you-won-t-be-seeing-on-tv (http://mic.com/articles/116702/10-images-of-the-baltimore-riots-you-won-t-be-seeing-on-tv)
My daughter lives in Baltimore and works at Johns Hopkins in downtown Baltimore. She road her motorcycle to work Monday morning. On the way home that evening she came up on an intersection blocked by a group of protesters. When they saw her Hopkins Nurse ID, they parted and formed a barricade for her to drive safely through. Nonetheless, she was very shaken by the incident. I'll bet she'll not ride the bike downtown for a while.
Wow! Scary when things we see on TV strike that close to home for some folks we know, even if it's only from this online venue. Glad your daughter got through there safe, and it's refreshing to know that the protestors had some respect for a medical professional.
Quote from: Locutus on April 29, 2015, 11:32:28 AM
Wow! Scary when things we see on TV strike that close to home for some folks we know, even if it's only from this online venue. Glad your daughter got through there safe, and it's refreshing to know that the protestors had some respect for a medical professional.
Thanks!
You know ... I watched the coverage on TV Monday evening and I saw a lot of that. Even the TV crews commented how curious it was. During the riots, there was traffic on the streets and the protesters seemed to be helping directing traffic through the intersections.
Quote from: Bo D on April 29, 2015, 11:28:15 AM
My daughter lives in Baltimore and works at Johns Hopkins in downtown Baltimore. She road her motorcycle to work Monday morning. On the way home that evening she came up on an intersection blocked by a group of protesters. When they saw her Hopkins Nurse ID, they parted and formed a barricade for her to drive safely through. Nonetheless, she was very shaken by the incident. I'll bet she'll not ride the bike downtown for a while.
Glad your daughter made it safely.
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And they are doing it without SWAT gear, guns and tear gas. :thumbsup: :yes: :smile:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2015, 08:03:16 AM
Nobody has said it it alright to kill an unarmed person. But, you act as if this is a problem that is out of control. It happens, and if and when it does, we need to throw the book at those guys. Cops are by and large, FANTASTIC human beings.
It sickens me to read comments like the Troll leaves....I find it very disturbing that people actually think that way.
I'd say you don't know many LEOs, if any.
To start off, yes, we need LEOs.
Secondly, let's face the truth. The people drawn to the job are usually not 'fantastic human beings' or even normal. They are primarily authoritarians, adrenaline junkies, power junkies, or all three. No truly normal person wants to boss/bully/herd other people around, have their nose so firmly in other people's business, or have the absolute power of life and death over other people.
Thirdly, as much as we hear about the dangers of the job - and there are inherent dangers to the job, it doesn't even fall within the top ten most dangerous jobs.
Now, the main problem that keeps us from having real and meaningful dialog about the function of LEOs in our society, their lack of necessary oversight, and their use of deadly force is the penchant of so many to mythologize both the job and the public employees on the job - just like we do with public emergency employees and the military.
We have to demythologize this so we can create the public oversight to stop this senseless abuse of deadly force across the nation. This nation is facing a long hot summer if we can't start having the necessary conversations/actions.