Indonesia's MetroTV station is reporting that an AirAsia plane with 162 people aboard is missing after takeoff from Indonesia on the way to Singapore.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/27/world/asia/airasia-missing-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/27/world/asia/airasia-missing-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Jeezus! What the hell is up with airliners going missing in that part of the world? :spooked:
Quote from: Locutus on December 27, 2014, 11:20:05 PM
Jeezus! What the hell is up with airliners going missing in that part of the world? :spooked:
Maybe it's the "rapture"? :spooked:
:rolleyes:
It'll be interesting to see if they have better luck finding this one.
Quote from: Locutus on December 27, 2014, 11:21:57 PM
It'll be interesting to see if they have better luck finding this one.
This latest incident is turning out to be a duplicate of the Malaysian Airliner that went MIA 10 months ago and that still has not been found. :spooked:
They just might find pieces of this one. The pilot ask to go to 42 thousand feet to get away from a thunder storm. :eek:
Or maybe they found another suicide pilot to sink another plane in the sea. :sailor: :yes:
Another good thing they have going for them is that the water is much more shallow along this route than it is in the middle of the Indian Ocean. They'll probably find something on this one eventually.
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2014, 12:24:41 PM
Another good thing they have going for them is that the water is much more shallow along this route than it is in the middle of the Indian Ocean. They'll probably find something on this one eventually.
Each minute that ticks by ensures it will be harder to find.
If it did indeed hit the water, I find it more than weird that, like the Malaysian crash, no debris trail was sighted within he first few hours after it went down. Nothing. Just water.
And I wonder if the black box signals are active, and if not why? :confused:
Those things are set up to go off on impact, and under water. And yet. . .
I can find my lost iPhone quicker than they can find a missing airliner it would seem!
Quote from: Palehorse on December 27, 2014, 11:20:54 PM
Maybe it's the "rapture"? :spooked:
:rolleyes:
It can't be the "rapture", because Pat Robertson is still here. :@#%&: :dam:
Interesting comment here from the CNN article currently on the front page:
. . .But there's also a chance that the AirAsia flight didn't crash after losing contact with air traffic control, he said.
The Airbus A320 is equipped with a ditching switch, Diehl said, that essentially turns the plane's fuselage into a boat.
"If they got the aircraft down on the water safely," he said, "it should be floating." . . .
One has to wonder, just how effective is this "ditching switch" option? I would assume it would require a controlled flight ditching of the aircraft, which doesn't sound like a scenario applicable to this case. If it were, one would assume that a mayday signal would have been sent out.
So, is it effective during an uncontrolled ditching? Probably not.
If it were one would assume a floating fuselage from an airliner would not be hard to spot; rough seas or not. And again, where's the black box signal?
The conspiracy side of me wonders if this plane is somewhere with the other one setting up for an attack somewhere as a terrorist driven missile.....but that consumes a very, very small side of me.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2014, 07:14:58 PM
The conspiracy side of me wonders if this plane is somewhere with the other one setting up for an attack somewhere as a terrorist driven missile.....but that consumes a very, very small side of me.
I dunno. . . I'm with you on that. In fact, each day that goes by that we don't find that Malaysian flight I suspect that is exactly what happened to it. I believe I said so here fairly early on back when it disappeared. . . :spooked:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
I dunno. . . I'm with you on that. In fact, each day that goes by that we don't find that Malaysian flight I suspect that is exactly what happened to it. I believe I said so here fairly early on back when it disappeared. . . :spooked:
You did. I remember you posting that because I mentioned about it being used as a terrorist attack.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2014, 07:21:40 PM
I dunno. . . I'm with you on that. In fact, each day that goes by that we don't find that Malaysian flight I suspect that is exactly what happened to it. I believe I said so here fairly early on back when it disappeared. . . :spooked:
I believe you did too. Sean Hannity is a believer of this..... I just WANT to think it is an out there thought...but if they could pull that off just think of the harm they can inflict!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2014, 07:47:11 PM
I believe you did too. Sean Hannity is a believer of this..... I just WANT to think it is an out there thought...but if they could pull that off just think of the harm they can inflict!
Yes indeed. I've frequently considered this since that first flight went missing. A west cost strike on one (or more) of the ocean front nuclear reactors would be a long term and major problem for the United States, with the fallout being dragged across the country via the jet-stream, for example.
599 human lives are lost just with the three flights that went down in that area alone. Whether they were killed due to an impact or slain by a terrorist group that hijacked the aircraft, lost they are. . .
Still no sign of this aircraft. . . And they have now asked for the help of the US in finding it.
The USN 7th Fleet has been on standby to do just that. :yes:
I might be wrong, but I think they'll find this one.
Quote from: Locutus on December 29, 2014, 06:24:16 PM
I might be wrong, but I think they'll find this one.
Sure doesn't appear so at this point. . .
At first it made me leery of flying across the oceans, but once I thought about it, burial at sea isn't all that bad. . . Of course Bin Laden is there though. . .
They found two bodies so far and some debris. They found this one.
Quote from: Locutus on December 30, 2014, 10:28:04 AM
They found two bodies so far and some debris. They found this one.
How sad but wasn't the water that it crashed in shallower than the one 10 months ago?
Yes. Much shallower.
Look at this image of the weather in and around the flight path at the time the plane went down. The plane was able to avoid the largest of the storms, but the crash site (indicated by the red dot on the flight path) is just at the beginning and to the southeast of those two areas of storms there in the middle of the Java Sea.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Air_Asia_QZ8501_Flight_Path_and_Satellite_Imagery.jpg/378px-Air_Asia_QZ8501_Flight_Path_and_Satellite_Imagery.jpg)
Quote from: Locutus on December 30, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
Look at this image of the weather in and around the flight path at the time the plane went down. The plane was able to avoid the largest of the storms, but the crash site (indicated by the red dot on the flight path) is just at the beginning and to the southeast of those two areas of storms there in the middle of the Java Sea.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Air_Asia_QZ8501_Flight_Path_and_Satellite_Imagery.jpg/378px-Air_Asia_QZ8501_Flight_Path_and_Satellite_Imagery.jpg)
Just a horrible, horrible thing to have happen! :'(
Now. . . if they can just find that first flight from 10 months ago. . .
I'll be interested to find out what the flight data recorders reveal when they retrieve them. . .
Quote from: Locutus on December 30, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
Look at this image of the weather in and around the flight path at the time the plane went down. The plane was able to avoid the largest of the storms, but the crash site (indicated by the red dot on the flight path) is just at the beginning and to the southeast of those two areas of storms there in the middle of the Java Sea.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Air_Asia_QZ8501_Flight_Path_and_Satellite_Imagery.jpg/378px-Air_Asia_QZ8501_Flight_Path_and_Satellite_Imagery.jpg)
Most likely structure damage to wings or tail. They said on TV that the thunderstorms in the area were over 40 thousand feet high. Very, very bad. :'(
Heard on the local news that they may have found a survivor in a life vest! Wonder if that is true!
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on December 31, 2014, 02:01:24 PM
Heard on the local news that they may have found a survivor in a life vest! Wonder if that is true!
I don't think so. They found a body in a life-vest; which is an indication that the passengers knew they were in trouble before impact. . .
I think that story has been completely refuted at this point. One official said they found a floating life vest but nobody was wearing it.
"Reality of seeing the evacuees and some of my aircraft parts are soul destroying," AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes tweeted. The air executive also put to rest rumors of a survivor found in a life jacket, saying that only the life jacket was found in the water.
Okay, well I never trust our local news as they are known to be idiots.
Last night they said they had found and id a body from the crash.
They have found over 10 bodies now. They did id one and may have id the others. What will be of interest will be the black box when found.
The flight data recorder has been recovered! :clap:
Hopefully the cockpit voice recorder will be next.
Quote from: Locutus on January 12, 2015, 12:20:39 AM
The flight data recorder has been recovered! :clap:
Hopefully the cockpit voice recorder will be next.
They've located it and it is under one of the wings and some other "debris". . .
Early SPECULATION is that the aircraft exploded upon impact with the water. . .